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Apple's Claims of Improved Performance on iPhone 4s and iPad 2 With iOS 8.1.1 Put to the Test

This is bad apple 4S was sold until a month ago and basically it was outdated and slow when you then bought it.
 
One of the most important things I do is use my iOS devices to stream to my Apple TV thanks to the ios8 downgrade that no longer works. My next device will be android no more apples for me.
 
I really wish Scott Forstall comes back. When I held the iPhone before it always felt like magicial device and superior device. Now it feels like a junk product once we start using the software. Apple will be doomed. Windows phone will take over if this continues. A 200$ lumia 520 is faster than my iPhone 5S in browser and overall os speed. I hate Tim Cook.
 
Tim098 said:
I have a 5 and after 8.1.1, performance has suffered slightly. 2 examples are:



1. My home screen has 2 pages. 1st page full of apps and the 2nd page full of folders. Previously, opening and closing out of a folder was smooth with no dropped frames. Immediately after the update and since, opening and closing folders makes it jerk and drop frames in the animation.



2. Same issue with jerkiness and dropped frames but in the stock messages app when the keyboard is up and I activate Control Center.



I haven't really bothered to check other instances of dropped frames but this update seems to have made my iPhone 5 on iOS 8 act like how my old 3GS did when it was on iOS 6 - all jerky and disgusting, which shouldn't be the case as the 5 has one more cycle before it is considered the 'last supported' model and my 5 was perfectly smooth on iOS 8 and 8.0.1 (or was it.0.2? I can't remember).



Anyone else with a 5 or earlier with this issue? I wouldn't expect the 5S and above to display these though.
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I've installed 8.1.1 on two fives, neither one of them are having these issues.
 
Rogifan said:
Who forced you to upgrade? My mother has an original iPad mini and an iPhone 5 and I told her not to upgrade right now. If I had an older device I would definitely wait to upgrade and if reviews said the performance sucked I wouldn't upgrade at all.
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The problem with that approach is that most developers are requiring the latest OS to install their apps. So your otherwise perfectly functional iPhone 4 running iOS7 now can't install a bunch of apps because the App Store doesn't provide access to older versions of those apps which were still compatible.

If you already have the apps you need you may be fine, but if you sell or gift the device to someone else they will have a crippled device with an artificially restricted selection of apps.
 
So it seems people with older devices basically have a choice:

1. Stay with iOS 7.1.2 and get good performance, but be susceptible to a ton of major security flaws ranging from being susceptible to drive by malware download and code execution from web sites, to lock screen bypass, to leaking WiFi credentials to rogue hotspots. :eek:

2. Upgrade to iOS 8.1.1 and get the security fixes, but suffer horrible performance. :eek:


Not much of a choice.
 
Kilamite said:
iOS 8.1.1 made my iPhone 5 laggier. Bringing up Spotlight, the keyboard takes much longer to appear.

Getting fed up of Apple trolling with the software on older devices to purposely make people buy a new iPhone. If they gave us a way to downgrade to iOS 7, then I wouldn't be complaining as much.
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I'm not having this problem on either one of the fives on which I've installed 8.1.1. Perhaps there is a problem other than the operating system.
 
Yesterday I used my colleague's iPad 2 with iOS 5.1.1. It was way faster and more responsive than me iPhone 5S with iOS 8.1.1. It certainly shows how bad iOS has become since 7.
 
furi0usbee said:
I love my iPhone, but compared to high-end Samsung phones, the iPhone is drastically underpowered, especially when it comes to RAM.
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Specs shmecs... Samsung/Android devices feel underpowered compared to the iPhone due to the overhead of running the least efficient mobile OS; not to mention, Samsung makes things worse with their custom skin and gimmicky tech.

If you don't believe me, just play around with a Samsung Galaxy S3. It feels like an iPhone 3 even though it's only 2 generations older... Except the iPhone's animations never stuttered that badly.
 
agsystems said:
I think the RAM issue has already being debunk. Yes, I am want more RAM as way to future proof your purchase but just because Android devices have 2-3g don't assume all of it is available to the device.
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Every time I get yet another page reload in Safari on iOS, I think RAM matters. I don't get page reloads on my android devices, even with 50+ tabs open. Of all the annoying things about iOS, Safari page reloads tops my list. Fix that up, and figure out how to actually support the fancy new third-party keyboards. iOS 8 needs a lot of polishing still. I'm hoping 8.1.1 is much better, as it is I've found that since I've switched back to an iPhone from my '13 Moto X, I've really suffered a loss in stability. Features, too, but I expected that. But the weird phantom touchscreen weirdness and GUI misbehavior on rotate is not inspiring. C'mon Apple.
 
Rogifan said:
In 2015 Apple needs to:

1. make all iOS and Mac devices they sell retina
2. Touch ID on all iOS devices they sell
3. Eliminate A5. All iOS devices they sell should be A7 or greater.
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Definite agree with points 1 and 3, but I don't like your second point.




Touch ID needs (ok, is really wanted my some) to be on all devices, iOS and the whole Mac lineup.
 
Planned obsolescence at its finest. Nice job Apple. I think they made the 4 and 4s run horrible on 7 and 8 (respectively) just to come out with a .1 release to make it seem like they tried everything to "speed" it up. These phones can run way better than they are.
 
Tim098 said:
I have a 5 and after 8.1.1, performance has suffered slightly. 2 examples are:

1. My home screen has 2 pages. 1st page full of apps and the 2nd page full of folders. Previously, opening and closing out of a folder was smooth with no dropped frames. Immediately after the update and since, opening and closing folders makes it jerk and drop frames in the animation.

2. Same issue with jerkiness and dropped frames but in the stock messages app when the keyboard is up and I activate Control Center.

I haven't really bothered to check other instances of dropped frames but this update seems to have made my iPhone 5 on iOS 8 act like how my old 3GS did when it was on iOS 6 - all jerky and disgusting, which shouldn't be the case as the 5 has one more cycle before it is considered the 'last supported' model and my 5 was perfectly smooth on iOS 8 and 8.0.1 (or was it.0.2? I can't remember).

Anyone else with a 5 or earlier with this issue? I wouldn't expect the 5S and above to display these though.
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I have a 5C (which is mostly the same as the 5) and have been experiencing more or less the same thing you are describing.

My home screen also has 2 pages, 1 with apps and 1 with folders. I'm seeing dropped frames not so much while opening folders but when for example unlocking the phone and the UI does a full zoom out to the home screen page containing folders. There's a noticeable frame drop in the animation that didn't happen in 8.0, 8.0.2 or 8.1.

This also happens in almost every other UI animation when the home screen containing the folders is involved in some way like activating Control Center or closing an application. But then again, it's more noticeable when the UI does a full or long zoom out to the home screen containing the folders.
 
Karma*Police said:
Specs shmecs... Samsung/Android devices feel underpowered compared to the iPhone due to the overhead of running the least efficient mobile OS; not to mention, Samsung makes things worse with their custom skin and gimmicky tech.

If you don't believe me, just play around with a Samsung Galaxy S3. It feels like an iPhone 3 even though it's only 2 generations older... Except the iPhone's animations never stuttered that badly.
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Try thee a Nexus oh lost soul.
 
macintologist said:
My iPhone 4S is definitely faster under 8.1.1.
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Faster than what? Ios 7

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agsystems said:
I think the RAM issue has already being debunk. Yes, I am want more RAM as way to future proof your purchase but just because Android devices have 2-3g don't assume all of it is available to the device.

see below,
"So 1GB for iOS results in more performance than 3GB for Android."

http://www.quora.com/How-come-the-i...an-2-GB-RAM-of-Android-phones/answers/7061202
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Sorry, had to say this. Not an Apples to Apples comparison.
 
Despite what these numbers show, I can honestly say that my iPad 3 is slightly better. It doesn't freeze as much.
 
rohitp said:
I upgraded to 8.1.1 on all four of our 4S phones (16 GB, 32GB, and 2x64GB).

Really can't tell if there is a speed bump but everything works just fine. Didn't have issues before and there are none now.
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Just curious about why you upgraded. What was in 8.1.1 that made you do it?
 
Avenged110 said:
Lol, my 4S on iOS 6 kicks all their asses.

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Yes please. Or at least sign restores if we haven't updated.
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Exactly. i kept my 4s in ios6 and bought 6+ for ios8 app uses.

Still the performance difference isn't that big.
plus the ui, animation still smoother on 4s.
Also, one handed game is much better on 4s.
Also horizontal typing is like the best experience hands down.
I get so much more typo on 6+.

I guess only advantage of 6+ here is fastness, the size and ios8.
 
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