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Apple's Claims of Improved Performance on iPhone 4s and iPad 2 With iOS 8.1.1 Put to the Test

Bahroo said:
You must have a old iPhone then, because the 6/6 Plus are better performers then what the Android competiton has to offer, Apple A8> Snapdragon 805
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The A8 HW advantage is negated by the iOS.
Each time an updated iOS is released, the performance suffers.
Just goo search the past trend of performance loss on iOS updates.
 
Rogifan said:
In 2015 Apple needs to:

1. Test software before releasing
2. Fix bugs found in #1
3. make all iOS and Mac devices they sell retina
4. Touch ID on all iOS devices they sell
5. Eliminate A5. All iOS devices they sell should be A7 or greater.
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Fixed your list for you :)
 
Tubamajuba said:
Only when it comes to RAM. The A series SoC is consistently ranked near the top of its class every year when comes to performance.
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I think the RAM issue has already being debunk. Yes, I am want more RAM as way to future proof your purchase but just because Android devices have 2-3g don't assume all of it is available to the device.

see below,
"So 1GB for iOS results in more performance than 3GB for Android."

http://www.quora.com/How-come-the-i...an-2-GB-RAM-of-Android-phones/answers/7061202
 
Tim098 said:
I have a 5 and after 8.1.1, performance has suffered slightly. 2 examples are:

1. My home screen has 2 pages. 1st page full of apps and the 2nd page full of folders. Previously, opening and closing out of a folder was smooth with no dropped frames. Immediately after the update and since, opening and closing folders makes it jerk and drop frames in the animation.

2. Same issue with jerkiness and dropped frames but in the stock messages app when the keyboard is up and I activate Control Center.

I haven't really bothered to check other instances of dropped frames but this update seems to have made my iPhone 5 on iOS 8 act like how my old 3GS did when it was on iOS 6 - all jerky and disgusting, which shouldn't be the case as the 5 has one more cycle before it is considered the 'last supported' model and my 5 was perfectly smooth on iOS 8 and 8.0.1 (or was it.0.2? I can't remember).

Anyone else with a 5 or earlier with this issue? I wouldn't expect the 5S and above to display these though.
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Yup. It's the first thing I noticed when I upgraded from 7.1.2. I think it's going to be like that forever. Sometimes when you click an app there is a half to second lag before it springs open. It's annoying but I've learned to live with it. Another abboying thing is the battery percentage skips. Mine skips 60, 30, 15%. But overall if I turn on reduce motion and the batt percentage things are ok.
 
I wonder if apple really is slowing these devices down on purpose. To me it makes no sense to why it would be slow.
 
Rogifan said:
Who forced you to upgrade? My mother has an original iPad mini and an iPhone 5 and I told her not to upgrade right now. If I had an older device I would definitely wait to upgrade and if reviews said the performance sucked I wouldn't upgrade at all.
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You're missing the point - it's not about being forced to upgrade. Apple entices users to upgrade by offering new features, and their iPhone notifies them about the 'recommended' update. People will install it, and the result is those with older devices end up with serious performance issues for doing the same tasks as the previous version of iOS.

There is no excuse for this. No one expects the new features to work well on older devices, but the things that did work well in iOS 7 should generally still work equally well in iOS 8. Apps launching a lot slower, the built-in keyboard being laggy to appear, an overall sluggish feeling.. these are things that Apple is intentionally doing to make your device feel old and useless to make you contemplate buying the new model.

They really shouldn't bother offering updates for older devices if the performance is going to be so bad. But then people would be less inclined to buy a new iPhone if their older iPhone still performed like it did when they first got it (blazingly fast). Apple can't have that now, can they?
 
Just stop selling A5 devices already! Kill the first gen mini, and either update the iPod line or kill it altogether, but selling A5 systems going into 2015 is just evil.
 
My 4S phones are all fine with this

I upgraded to 8.1.1 on all four of our 4S phones (16 GB, 32GB, and 2x64GB).

Really can't tell if there is a speed bump but everything works just fine. Didn't have issues before and there are none now.
 
My iPhone 4S feels ok again! Not great like iOS6, but it should hold me off until the 6S. I'm month to month on my phone plan right now.
 
I realize that iOS doesn't "need" as much RAM as Android devices for the OS it comes out with, nor typically the one after, but year 3 is always a huge issue. I also realize that Apple probably wants people to upgrade every two years. But could they not keep the RAM so low? I mean, I'm the type to upgrade as soon as I can, but if your handing your phone down to a family member you don't want it to become a laggy pile after an upgrade. Also, the newer OS's tend to be more secure, which I think would be another reason to give devices more RAM than they initially need.
 
Rogifan said:
In 2015 Apple needs to:

1. make all iOS and Mac devices they sell retina
2. Touch ID on all iOS devices they sell
3. Eliminate A5. All iOS devices they sell should be A7 or greater.
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So you're saying they need to add 'S' to the end of their current product line up and resell them to us? I think this will happen :)
 
On my 4S running 8.1.1, the WiFi no longer works. I can get it to come back using some fixes found online, but only temporarily. Seems more hardware-related but it's probably time for a new phone anyway.
 
bawbac said:
The A8 HW advantage is negated by the iOS.
Each time an updated iOS is released, the performance suffers.
Just goo search the past trend of performance loss on iOS updates.
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What is this nonsense? iOS 8 is the first OS version the Apple A8 has seen, which means and is that iOS 8 was built on the Apple A8 in mind.

And I never experienced that issue, i Had a 5 on iOS 7 at the time and also iOS 8 and it is and was just as snappy as the first day I bought the phone, it is only very old devices that suffer performance due to hardware lacking (like the 4S/ipad 2) which obviously will happen , because we live in exponential times and hardware and software is growing and developing at a crazy rate
 
If you have a 5 or up and you're holding back from upgrading to iOS 8... stop being paranoid! iOS 8 was practically made for the 5s and 6.
 
The inability to put functional, stable software back on these expensive computers after an "upgrade" turns out to be an ugly slow unstable mistake, is why I have purchased my last iOS device.

These things are toys.
 
Has anyone updated their iPad Mini (first gen) to this yet? Ours is still on iOS 7. It's our kids iPad so I don't use it other than updates, backing up, etc.....but I'm curious how well it's running.
 
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