30% commission probably has a lot to do with it. As hardware sales plateau, they have to continue to provide shareholder value and service growth is the way they've chosen to do it.
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Apple's Craig Federighi: Mac Not Meeting the Bar for Customer Protection
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30% commission probably has a lot to do with it. As hardware sales plateau, they have to continue to provide shareholder value and service growth is the way they've chosen to do it.
I believe that's all of what it has to do with. Every other argument might have some merit but ultimately they're just means to that end.
Homebrew is an example of how arrogance makes people ignore, 30, 40 years of UNIX history and best practices, because they think typing a password to install software is too hard.
You might as well have suggested that McDonalds is an example of how people can "eat healthy".
No, you said it's "safer". Safer than what? Safer than a signed .pkg installer? Nope. Safer than downloading from the MAS? Nope. Safer than downloading a signed binary from the web? Nope.
So what exactly, are you suggesting it's "safer" than?
I have only gotten malware twice on Windows since Windows 95. Windows does still have a malware problem. Its good when you visit only 3 websites in existence so chances are low unless a malicious ad gets through (which has happened). The other time I got one was when I typed a website URL incorrectly. This is why I now go to google and type in a site if its not bookmarked
Exactly this. I get my computers to do work. Not deal with little snitch, make sure my AV is up to date, make sure all my software is up to date. I want to WORK, not do MAINTENANCE. iOS is PERFECT for this. I am REALLY hoping Apple announces Final Cut Pro at WWDC now that the iPad Pro has M1.
Also, if you don't care about YOUR security, you should care about OTHERS. Where do you think all these spam/scam emails come from? The less Zombie computers there are, the better for EVERYONE.
Actually, they need to lose this for our sake.
It's not extortionate. But if you really don't want to give Apple the 30% cut, there are two options:
1. Don't make $1,000,000 or more in annual revenue from the App Store
2. Offer your app for free
Those are both pretty easy things to do.
I wonder how some of you get around in life needing Apple to hold your hand with everything you do on their products. lol Everything will be ok, just breathe!
The day Apple locks down MacOS will be the day I no longer am a MacOS user.
The day Apple locks down MacOS will be the day I no longer am a MacOS user.
But what if they don’t want to? Idk, feels like a decision they should be able to make.
Go back and watch the keynote where Steve introduced the App store. It lays out the economics of the App Store.
A big headline today saying Apple received $100 million from Epic sales could make Apple look like a robber baron company.
Poor little Epic.
Yet, $100 million from Epic sales means Epic—the author, not the publisher—received $233 million. Yep, $100,000,000.00 is a lot of money, but only 30%. Epic received 70%—$233,333,333.33—not 15% or 20% common in the publishing world.
In the publishing world, authors get ~15%. Some get more. Some get less.
Apple is giving 70% to its authors. Apple is the publisher. App developers are authors getting 70% royalties.
For its 30%, Apple does distribution, runs servers, operates purchasing card system, manages comments, promotes apps, including those of Epic.
Apple reviews all apps for malicious code.
30% is a reasonable rate.
70% royalties is generous.
Go watch the keynote where Steve introduced the App store to learn more about the economics of the App Store.
A big headline today saying Apple received $100 million from Epic sales could make Apple look like a robber baron company.
Poor little Epic.
Yet, $100 million from Epic sales means Epic—the author, not the publisher—received $233 million. Yep, $100,000,000.00 is a lot of money, but only 30%. Epic received 70%—$233,333,333.33—not 15% or 20% common in the publishing world.
In the publishing world, authors get ~15%. Some get more. Some get less.
Apple is giving 70% to its authors. Apple is the publisher. App developers are authors getting 70% royalties.
For its 30%, Apple does distribution, runs servers, operates purchasing card system, manages comments, promotes apps, including those of Epic.
Apple reviews all apps for malicious code.
30% is a reasonable rate.
70% royalties is generous.
Go watch the keynote where Steve introduced the App store to learn more about the economics of the App Store.
Honestly I’d like to see this. Couldn’t come soon enough.
Oh come on, nobody will be forcing you to side load apps. If you want to stay with the App Store, you can. Sideloading apps will be optional and they could easily give users a warning message the first time they try to do so, or even make them go into settings to turn side loading on.
Make it a necessity to be signed by apple servers.
A check of some sort. Can be distributed from other location but still meet certain requirements.
You have it on the mac (in a way at least) don't you?
Fair enough, safer was a bad choice of words on my part. Homebrew is convenient more than it's safe.
But for the average user that does not have the knowledge, and will not take the time to validate what they install on their machine, what is the answer?
The Mac App Store. Could Apple make it more appealing for developers of native apps? Probably. But it’s far and away the best option for “average users”, IMO.
For context: I write (server-side and shell) software, I manage Linux clusters, I practically live in a shell and a Java IDE (ie it’s written in Java, I very rarely write Java) for work.
I use the MAS as much as possible, because honestly it’s the least hassle for payments, licensing, (re)install/updates, etc.
I guess one counter argument to the IOS App Store and Craigs testimony today, is on the Mac here in the UK, on this day, I can purchase Adobe Photoshop Elements 2021 for £74.99 from the Mac App Store, I can also purchase it from Amazon for £69.99 with no adverse security implications for my Mac. Yet Apple insists it would be catastrophic for security on IOS devices if you could install software from places other than the IOS App Store.
Apples arguments increasingly sound more like they are trying to protect their App Store revenue and using security as a excuse to justify this. Today Craig threw all of Apples claims of Mac security under a bus in order to protect Apples revenue stream from the IOS App Store.
Yet even today on the Apple website the section for Big Sur states "macOS Big Sur introduces a cryptographically signed system volume that protects against malicious tampering." so which is it Apple, is Mac OS as insecure as Craig implied in court today, because of the Malware out there, or is it secure against these things as Apples website would suggest?
Edit: Off topic but I have been noticing recently how Apple has been highlighting that NBA2K21 is available to play on Apple Arcade, today and for the next week Epic is giving that game away for PCs on its Epic App Store, I don't know if they have done this to troll Apple but the timing of it suggests as much.
Apples arguments increasingly sound more like they are trying to protect their App Store revenue and using security as a excuse to justify this. Today Craig threw all of Apples claims of Mac security under a bus in order to protect Apples revenue stream from the IOS App Store.
Yet even today on the Apple website the section for Big Sur states "macOS Big Sur introduces a cryptographically signed system volume that protects against malicious tampering." so which is it Apple, is Mac OS as insecure as Craig implied in court today, because of the Malware out there, or is it secure against these things as Apples website would suggest?
Edit: Off topic but I have been noticing recently how Apple has been highlighting that NBA2K21 is available to play on Apple Arcade, today and for the next week Epic is giving that game away for PCs on its Epic App Store, I don't know if they have done this to troll Apple but the timing of it suggests as much.
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To quote from the iOS entry on wikipedia "The operating system was unveiled with the iPhone at the Macworld Conference & Expo on January 9, 2007, and released in June of that year.[17][18][19] At the time of its unveiling in January, Steve Jobs claimed: "iPhone runs OS X" and runs "desktop class applications",[20][21] but at the time of the iPhone's release, the operating system was renamed "iPhone OS"." So originally it actually was designed to be the same as the Mac OS. There was an ability to install Apps from third parties on the iPhone before the App Store using Installer.App, Apple blocked this ability with iOS 2.0. As for web Apps, Apple have been very slow to implement all of the latest technologies to run the latest web apps on iOS devices, have they done this on purpose to thwart the use of web apps on iOS devices in order to maximise their App Store revenue? it sure looks that way.
If Apple wants the Mac App Store to become viable, then they will need to set their cut @ 10% for ALL financial transactions.
If they made that one move, it could blossom !
Of course, then the pressure would be on for Apple to set the same % for ALL financial transactions on their iOS App Store.
Which, I personally believe, would be a smart move, as it may be their ONLY way to prevent an eventual breakup of that App Store, at least the NON-Game portion of that App Store !
If they made that one move, it could blossom !
Of course, then the pressure would be on for Apple to set the same % for ALL financial transactions on their iOS App Store.
Which, I personally believe, would be a smart move, as it may be their ONLY way to prevent an eventual breakup of that App Store, at least the NON-Game portion of that App Store !
Not exactly. People still keep bringing this up. But you need to look at the Epic Games Store on PC to know what WILL happen. Epic will get an exclusivity deal on an app that is ONLY available on Epic Games Store on iOS. And do you think Fortnite will be BACK on the App Store? Therefore, if you or your kids wants to play Fortnite on iOS they WILL need to open the security up.
Until there is an exploit that enables the option automatically then you are at risk. Having a security hole will impact EVERYONE regardless if you have that toggle on or not due to the potential of something bypassing that toggle.
