Instead of talking rubbish about security on macOS to try to benefit them limiting our freedom and trying to justify a closed desktop class system he should be VERY worried about how unpleasant, unreliable and buggy the macOS user experience came to be!!!!
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Apple's Craig Federighi: Mac Not Meeting the Bar for Customer Protection
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Agreed. Who remembers Lenovo uploading malware/ransomware into ThinkPad BIOS’ back in 2013/2014? That would be just the beginning.
Locked in recurring payments. Delays typical of banking system for refunds. Long arbitration. That’s a start.
Again this case is NOt only focused on payments.
Lol.
PowerMac G5 with 256GB single core and 4GH RAM when it launched costed close to $3K. Add more drives RAM it would be well over $5K.
Apple has NEVER had an entry level Mac Pro.
iMac Pro - was never supposed to be in serial production if you read the announcement it was a stop gap until the 2020 Mac Pro was released. It did very well and may just return , but it wasn’t supposed to remain a staple in the product lineup.
Aperture, Xserve, Airport, Thunderbolt Display, target display mode. These where ALL defeated by better competitors in the market:
Adobe Photoshop CS (and related products to name one), Linux servers abound, WiFi AC,AX and now mesh routers, Thunderbolt got a LOT faster and LG partnered with Apple and now Apple uses Samsung or other display makers for XDR display bearing the competition but for Thunderbolt Display it was beat, target display mode well that was slow & could’ve been improved but hell I’m sure the OS changed drastically to cause issues using it. That last one cannot explain - but there you have it listed respectively.
So don’t buy the Fortnite app. Problem solved. You can continue on the iOS AppStore unaffected.
You value your freedom to do the stuffs you like. Why are you insisting others' freedom in building their own products according to their needs to be curtailed? If there comes a day when Apple locks down macOS or that the quality of their products drops off a cliff, and their general user base got so upset as to leave in droves, then it only means that Apple made a big mistake and they should go out of business. Wouldn't you agree?
Legitimate question to all those cheerleading Epic and praying for the App Store to be forced open.
Why?
Why aren't you just using Android already if you want that kind of open platform?
Right now I feel the market is in a fantastic place.
For people who want the wild west and open-ness at the cost of dealing with 35 different marketplaces, we have Android. It gives you literally everything you are asking for.
For people who value security, we have the proverbial walled garden of iOS.
I don't want to see iOS forced to open up and become Android anymore than I want to see Google announce they are locking down the platform and emulating Apple. Either change would alienate a huge portion of the market.
Why?
Why aren't you just using Android already if you want that kind of open platform?
Right now I feel the market is in a fantastic place.
For people who want the wild west and open-ness at the cost of dealing with 35 different marketplaces, we have Android. It gives you literally everything you are asking for.
For people who value security, we have the proverbial walled garden of iOS.
I don't want to see iOS forced to open up and become Android anymore than I want to see Google announce they are locking down the platform and emulating Apple. Either change would alienate a huge portion of the market.
Short answer is that they are anti-Apple, for whatever reason. Anything to stick it to Apple.
That's fake news.
The PowerMac G5 launched at $1999 in 2003.
The Intel Mac Pro started as follows:
2006 entry level at $2199,
2008 entry level at $2299,
2010 entry level at $2499,
2013 entry level at $2999,
2019 entry level at $5999.
Thunderbolt Display, Target display mode & Xserve weren't defeated by competition. There wasn't any 'competition' to these. Nobody made thunderbolt displays. Target Display mode was Mac specific. Xserve was native Mac OS X on servers. Apple stopped improving Aperture & it died.
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Well, they often take a while to scan everything. Not something you need if you have to make the urgent calls, especially emergency ones.
android lets you do as you please.
linux is for way further than power users.
there is absolutely no benefit to even the lay "idiot" consumer that apple "babysit" their computing habits. im going to take a guess that far more than 1% of mac users are dumb enough that they need *this* level of bs.
Those aren’t good enough reasons. Apple isn’t the only company to figure out payments online.
Yeah, such a shame that it'll have to compete with the Mac. On the other hand, root-level access and Xcode support will be fun. 😜
Oh, give Federighi a break, it was a thinly veiled distress call already.
”Serlet, where are you? We need you here!”
If you think your iPhone is 100% secure you are very much mistaken. The NSA are listening to every phone call you make, every email you send, etc. They can track who and where you are if they want to. Hacks and exploits have existed for many years on the iPhone. Nobody knows what secret data Apple is compelled to handover to the NSA. Nothing and nobody is 100% secure.
I don’t think anybody is arguing that iPhones are 100% secure. Nothing will be 100% secure. Apple is trying to make their products as secure as they possibly can. I would say the same for all device and OS developers, maybe some more than others. Arguing that we cannot be 100% secure, therefore why even try, is silly.
The caveat to this is people actually do feel the walled gardens are very secure. Apple creates an image that if you use their phone, then you’re safe. That will bound to promote a certain level of complacency and surprise when they get caught for various things
I don’t know about your circle of contacts, by in my circle almost none are even considering the security aspect of the devices they are using. I believe this is the norm. Most users just what to use the devices they own to do what they want and get on with life. I would argue that most iOS users don’t even understand the term walled garden.
That is the reason, IMHO, Apple is striving to do what they do. You shouldn’t use the posters in forums as benchmark.
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In my circle that has both tech and non-tech peers, we all don't care about the security aspects of iOS. But there are those acquaintances around (i.e. at work and friends of friends) that cheerlead the walled garden. I'm not saying that the posters in this forum are the de-facto benchmark. I'm just saying that people that think like this exist in adequate numbers.
If Apple are trying to make their products as secure as they can why don’t they fix exploits when they are found instead of leaving them for years until they get leaked to the media? Why don’t they take down scam apps when they are alerted about them? Why have they apparently left the Mac woefully insecure and open to malware attacks? You have more faith in Apple than I do.
Why can't Apple simply offer its products the way Apple thinks end-users will like them? This lawsuit has very little to do with anti-trust and very much to do with competitive offerings that are designed to be attractive to customers. The fact that Apple has invested heavily in its applications storefront, and the fact that many end-users prefer that storefront to other offerings, only means that Apple is the more successful entrepreneur. Epic clearly violated its agreement to observe Apple's contract, and Apple has every right to prohibit Epic from enjoying the usage of a storefront that Epic was only permitted to benefit from if it observed the contractual agreement. Once Epic unilaterally acted in contradiction of its contract it lost any claim of legitimacy. Epic clearly understood the rights and obligations of a developer enrolled in the Apple App Store, and it had every opportunity to calculate whether the balance of benefits and costs of the contract were in its favor. Apparently, Epic came to regret its contract, presumably because it irked Epic to have to pay what it had promised to pay, to do what it promised to do, and to refrain from doing what it promised not to do.
Things only change when a brave few break the rules. Epic broke their contract in order to highlight a problem. They may lose the court case but the issues raised are now firmly in the public domain and being scrutinised by lawmakers around the world.