Apple's Custom MicroLED Displays Likely Heading to iPhone, iPad, and Mac After Apple Watch Ultra

[applefan69]

I’m really happy about that. I really don’t like OLED technology and I’m looking forward for something different.

Just curious can you explain why? To me it seems like a great technology. Not that Im against alternatives either. What exactly leaves you to not like OLED? I mean given equal price it is definitely better than normal LCD thus why it developed in the first place. Now we have something better coming which is never a bad thing, but how is OLED existing for a time a "bad thing"?

While we are addressing it. How do you expect microLED to be any better/different than oLED. From complete ignorant standpoint they seem to be deeply related technologies? I am curious to know how your dislike of OLED will not translate the same into MicroLED? No sarcasm I am interested to know your thoughts here.

 

[PauloSera]

Yeah over the next ten years.

 

[obviouslogic]

Gurman said that Apple has spent about six years developing microLED technology

Apple has been working on this technology a lot longer than 6 years. In 2014 Apple acquired LuxView, which had already been developing this tech for years. Almost 10 years later, still haven't seen anything, although I believe at the time the biggest issue with it was developing a method of manufacturing for high volume output at a reasonable cost.

 

[teknikal90]

i find it hard to imagine how this new tech could possibly make the image quality better that what it is currently. The OLED displays on modern iphones are so good.

 

[enterthemerdaverse]

Did you change your display auto lock settings to keep the screen on longer?

I use default energy and lock settings except I normally have the brightness at about 70%.

 

[enterthemerdaverse]

Just curious, do you happen to have your phone at or near full brightness all the time too? Screen brightness also plays a role in burn in time.

About 70%.

 

[0924487]

I just wish Apple would prioritize this microLED display for the 📱 iPhone Pro lineup first since that is the blockbuster product. But I get Apple wants to test it out on ⌚️ Apple Watch first (smaller display).

It’s because of the yield problem. The bigger the display the more likely that there will be a fault on the active display area, which leads to rejects, and that’s costly. It’s exactly the same as chips. The bigger the chips, the more likely a defect is going to be on the active area of the wafer.

 

[enterthemerdaverse]

Just curious can you explain why? To me it seems like a great technology. Not that Im against alternatives either. What exactly leaves you to not like OLED? I mean given equal price it is definitely better than normal LCD thus why it developed in the first place. Now we have something better coming which is never a bad thing, but how is OLED existing for a time a "bad thing"?

While we are addressing it. How do you expect microLED to be any better/different than oLED. From complete ignorant standpoint they seem to be deeply related technologies? I am curious to know how your dislike of OLED will not translate the same into MicroLED? No sarcasm I am interested to know your thoughts here.

OLED looks awesome but burn in is inevitable. Every time a new LCD or LED technology comes out we praise every new version but then the next thing comes out and we are so glad to move on. Been like this since the first panels ever.

 

[iStorm]

Not trying to argue. But I am almost certain that one of the "features" of the 11 pro was that you could set the screen to stay on indefinitely, as in phone would not automatically go to sleep.

I just checked. Yup the 11 pro allows "never" as a setting for auto-lock. IF I am remembering correct the phones before that would not allow that selection. This definitely has led to me leaving my phone displaying the same thing for extended period of time while I forgot it somewhere. No burn-in issues here on my 11 pro from day of release, but Im definitely no power user.

But your thinking of always on. Where the phone literally always displays like the newer watches. No it does not do that.

I don't recall the "never auto-lock" ever being a feature. Both my spare iPhone XS and 7 have "Never" listed as an option.

 

[BorisDG]

Loving mini LED and micro LED because OLED has left burn-in on my iPhone 😩

What model?

 

[enterthemerdaverse]

What model?

11 Pro. You can read the thread first two pages for info and someone else who had the same.

 

[Jim Lahey]

OLED looks awesome but burn in is inevitable

Inevitable is maybe a bit of a stretch. Not inevitable if the panel is treated reasonably. I would argue that time is OLED’s silent killer. Total hours. Or it certainly has been in years gone. Apparently the longevity drama is now solved but I remain unconvinced.

 

[acblue94]

Loving mini LED and micro LED because OLED has left burn-in on my iPhone 😩

And you are the only one.

 

[enterthemerdaverse]

Inevitable is maybe a bit of a stretch. Not inevitable if the panel is treated reasonably.

Inevitable meaning to a lesser degree or a high degree depending on how it is used. But definitely less degree will happen eventually, for static UI elements.

 

[BorisDG]

Also from what I'm reading "Hard OLED" has longer life span than "Soft OLED" which is used like 99.9% of the time in phones since iPhone X.

 

[enterthemerdaverse]

And you are the only one.

Read the thread or surf the web. It's really trolly to suggest only one person has burn-in 😂🖖

 

[I7guy]

I can corroborate this. I’m usually an annual upgrader, and get all the new phones at launch. But my 11 Pro Max was the longest I ever had an iPhone, as I didn’t get a new one until the 14 Pro Max.

After 3 years of use, there were definitely very noticeable burn-in patterns, particularly around static display elements like the homebar, or WiFi/battery indicator.

They weren’t noticeable or distracting in regular use, but if you had a solid white screen or a screen with a single flat color, you would definitely be able to see the degraded areas.

It’s not the only iPhone I’ve had burn-in on either. I only had my X and XS Max for a year each, and they both also had burn-in, if only to a lesser extent.


I don’t understand why people think Apple’s devices are magic or immune to the laws of physics. OLED displays are susceptible to burn-in. Nothing to really debunk there.

They look beautiful in regular everyday use and I’m still glad Apple uses them. These devices are meant to be used. I don’t care what the condition of the display panel is like after a year (or three) when I’m ready to upgrade the device again. It’s not my problem.

I’ve had my Xs max since 2018 and no burn in. It’s been used heavily and and as such the battery was replaced.

My concern with oled was burn-in, and I’m glad it didn’t materialize.

 

[IsaacM]

What is the benefit of it over OLED?

 

[Gengar]

This is what burn-in looks like when I show it on top of a full screen white background.

Some apps have burned their icons into the display. The iOS menu bar items and task switcher also are burned in.

This isn't Apple's fault. It's just what OLED does if your display is on a lot after more than 2 years.

That's why I disabled the Always-On Display on my iPhone 14 Pro Max...

Wasn't taking any chances.

 

[BorisDG]

AOD in my own opinion brings nothing in value. I also have AOD disabled on my Apple Watch. I see no point the display showing something when I'm not watching it anyway. When I want to see it - it shows automatically. Also battery life.

 

[contacos]

I don't recall the "never auto-lock" ever being a feature. Both my spare iPhone XS and 7 have "Never" listed as an option.

Exactly. The only difference is between iPhone and iPad, which does not have a 30 seconds option for some reason

 

[enterthemerdaverse]

That's why I disabled the Always-On Display on my iPhone 14 Pro Max...

Wasn't taking any chances.

Off hand I can't remember but I think Apple has used some kind of low energy trick to make Always-On work in a way that prevents screen burn. It's not available on my phone.

 

[BorisDG]

Off hand I can't remember but I think Apple has used some kind of low energy trick to make Always-On work in a way that prevents screen burn. It's not available on my phone.

If you mean 1Hz... I doubt that will help against eventual burn-in.

 

[nikaru]

at this point, micro LED is all hype. Nobody is currently using it in anything. It’s all just dubious promises currently

It takes time. The first early prototypes of micro LED were presented around 2017, when many manufacturers were heavily investing in OLED production. If you have invested several billions of dollars in some technology, you will first try to recover your initial investment, before building new facilities to manufacture under completely new and expensive technology.

 

[enterthemerdaverse]

I’ve had my Xs max since 2018 and no burn in. It’s been used heavily and and as such the battery was replaced.

My concern with oled was burn-in, and I’m glad it didn’t materialize.

Because you don't watch hundreds of hours of Instagram cooking videos 😂 If you look at my burn in you will see the icons that burned in the screen are from IG.