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I would disagree in assuming its a manufacturing defect. From my perspectove it seems a heck of a lot like a design defect. The thing seems just too gaddamn thin and weak to not flex at that size.

It it were a design defect, every iPad made would be bending, which it's not. Mine is perfectly fine, super sturdy, no issues at all. This narrative that the iPad is somehow flimsy is just wrong. I am assuming you are having an issue with yours?
 
It it were a design defect, every iPad made would be bending, which it's not. Mine is perfectly fine, super sturdy, no issues at all. This narrative that the iPad is somehow flimsy is just wrong. I am assuming you are having an issue with yours?

Not every iPad is bent perhaps .... A) because they haven’t been in use very long yet, and B) because there are plenty of people who do very little with them, And use them lightly.

So maybe it’s just too early. We may be at the front end of tsunami, where the person on the beach sees the wave in the distance and says “hmm, doesn’t seem like that big a deal to me”.
 
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Not every iPad is bent perhaps .... A) because they haven’t been in use very long yet, and B) because there are plenty of people who do very little with them, And use them lightly.

So maybe it’s just too early. We may be at the front end of tsunami, where the person on the beach sees the wave in the distance and says “hmm, doesn’t seem like that big a deal to me”.

Seems like a lot of maybe's in there, based on no truth. Basically what this whole thread is about.
 
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Seems like a lot of maybe's in there, based on no truth. Basically what this whole thread is about.

Right, and your truth at this point is any better?
Your ipad isnt bent at all, correct? Do you use it like most college students you see, or do you more or less ‘baby’ it and treat it very carefully.

If its the latter, then you’re more careful with a huge swatch of peope who have been using their previous ipads as a utlilitarian tool, who have been maybe a little less careful with it, who have previously never had theirs bend with that kind of use.
If we start to see those ‘average’ users show up with bent ipads in large numbers ... then we’ll have a good indocation this design finally pushed the ‘form’ over ‘function’ ethos to the breaking point ... literally.
 
Right, and your truth at this point is any better?
Your ipad isnt bent at all, correct? Do you use it like most college students you see, or do you more or less ‘baby’ it and treat it very carefully.

If its the latter, then you’re more careful with a huge swatch of peope who have been using their previous ipads as a utlilitarian tool, who have been maybe a little less careful with it, who have previously never had theirs bend with that kind of use.
If we start to see those ‘average’ users show up with bent ipads in large numbers ... then we’ll have a good indocation this design finally pushed the ‘form’ over ‘function’ ethos to the breaking point ... literally.

Yes, I have a personal experience, which I would think is more valid than just hearsay. No, don't baby it by any means, I toss it in and out of my bag daily like I did with my 10.5 and 9.7 Pro before that, no bends or issues. I guess I don't really understand why you want to push this narrative so hard when it's not really based in truth. Anyway, keep it going if you feel you need to. Back to work for me.
 
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Not every iPad is bent perhaps .... A) because they haven’t been in use very long yet, and B) because there are plenty of people who do very little with them, And use them lightly.

Or maybe it's because they are just not bent and won't be.

So maybe it’s just too early. We may be at the front end of tsunami

I think that is what you want, from most of your posts you are the type of person who sees the worst and that is what you thrive on.
 
Or maybe it's because they are just not bent and won't be.



I think that is what you want, from most of your posts you are the type of person who sees the worst and that is what you thrive on.

FWIW, we didn’t see battery issues pop up till much later on iPhones. Mac keyboard issues also didn’t prop up until later as well.

I think people justifiably can be cynical given what has happened in the last few years with some major Apple products.
 
FWIW, we didn’t see battery issues pop up till much later on iPhones. Mac keyboard issues also didn’t prop up until later as well.

I think people justifiably can be cynical given what has happened in the last few years with some major Apple products.
To that point the note 7 launch started out nicely as well.
 
FWIW, we didn’t see battery issues pop up till much later on iPhones. Mac keyboard issues also didn’t prop up until later as well.

We don't need to wait until later, the issue is here now, at launch, that is different to an issue developing. Whilst there have been a couple of comments suggesting the bend appeared on its own after purchase, I am calling BS on that for the minute. There are far too many jumping on the fear wagon (not being cynical). If you have not already go search for the people posting pictures of a straight iPad trying to convince themselves it is bent (it's not) and needs to be returned.

Like I said on the last page.

What I would say quite simply though is that it should not be an issue at all. A device like this should simply not be bent on arrival or bending so easily afterwards. Seriously when did you ever hear of a tablet having this issue ever!

1. iPhone 6
2. Magic Keyboard
3. iPad Pro

All of the above have had issues with bending. However loyal to Apple anyone is you can't deny there is too much bending going on, it's indefensible.

That remains true, devices bending is not new and should not be acceptable from Apple.
 
All wrong, not based in reality.
Of course it was intended to be a joke, but parts do ring true. Apple does rely upon people accepting THEIR interpretation of facts, i.e. you are holding it wrong, we slowed down older devices to protect the battery, iPhones don't bend or have 'touch disease', the keyboards aren't bad, it's the user's fault, etc. Is there any other reason it took class action suits to get Apple to pony up and fix some of these defects? They had to do it to get Apple to accept responsibility. Apple certainly isn't the only company to have done this, but no company should get a pass when they screw up. A flexible iPad is not good when everything inside is designed NOT to bend. Bent iPads could be only the first symptom with component failure not far behind. We saw that with the iPhone. I like some of the features of the new iPad, but will not upgrade to an uncertain future. My choice, I am very selective in what Apple products I will buy and the list keeps getting smaller.
 
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They said that their standard of 400 microns is tighter than previous generations. We hadn’t heard complaints about “bent” iPads before. Maybe the slight variations are just more noticeable with the blocky design.
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Read the article. 400 microns is tighter than their old standard.
Yeah but why are people just now noticing it? It looks like a lot more than 400 microns to my eye, which is only a few times thicker than human hair.
 
Yeah but why are people just now noticing it? It looks like a lot more than 400 microns to my eye, which is only a few times thicker than human hair.
If it is more than 400 microns then it is out of spec and Apple should fix it under warranty.
 
Not every iPad is bent perhaps .... A) because they haven’t been in use very long yet, and B) because there are plenty of people who do very little with them, And use them lightly.

So maybe it’s just too early. We may be at the front end of tsunami, where the person on the beach sees the wave in the distance and says “hmm, doesn’t seem like that big a deal to me”.
It issues seems to be out the box not using over time

What would people be doing with their iPads that others don’t? You should look after it the same way no matter your use cases
 
You’re not even making sense with this kind of nonsense. Apple never said they won’t replace bent iPads out of the 400 micron spec.

An Apple device just flat out not working is never going to be ignored.

The video you posted is from a known Apple basher.
i am an apple lover just like you, the only diference is that i accept when they do something wrong but you don’t, you live in denial while i accept the truth, but you can’t handle the truth, you need a serious doze of reality check, are you sure you are not an apple lawyer, the video is not made by the guy that apple attacks, is from the news, the guy that you mentioned is always attack by apple so what do you expect, same reason i have to respond to your comment because you say that i don’t make sense, i do, is simply that your brain is rejecting the facts, so you are telling me that apple hasn’t lower their standards lately, ok no problem, when you sure that what you know is true you don’t have to waste your time convencing others, so you are free to think whatever you want, happy new year

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if they say that bend is normal that is like saying stay with it , keep it , is the person the one who doesn’t have to agreed with their decidion and take the bent ipad to an spple store for a replacement, don’t listen to them, they simply say that for you to keep your bent ipad, so is like saying we are not going to replace it, when the person doesn’t accept that as an answer and escalate the problem then they have to replace it, please don’t waste your time defending them, is not a personal attack against apple, they simply did something wrong that is totally unaceptable and to make things worse they say that is perfectly fine.

that’s why i always love to pay using pay pal and aviod companies that don’t accept paypal payments, if i’m not satisfied, replace the item or give my money back.

no one wants a brand new expensive item with defects
 
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Still don’t understand why they had to ‘update’ the design in the first place.

they didn't have to, however, I actually like the new look much better than the old one.

though argument could be made that they didn't have to make it thinner. it's that part that introduced compromise of less rigidity of the chassis , and the camera bulge

imagine the new design withou the camera bump, but only .5mm thicker. I think that would have been the best solution. instead, like seems to be typical Jonny Ive, if it's not thinner, it's not worth doing. Even if it sacrifices something else to shave off the .5mm
 
I am pretty sure there won’t be a lot of mechanical engineers, let alone materials/manufacturing engineers, on this forum. They’d be on PCs.
You don't need to be mechanical engineers, you just need elementary school level math to understand the numbers. Thinking like an engineer towards an engineering problem with elementary level math skills is enough to identify this obviously misleading picture. Majors do not matter here. It is more about the engineering thinking.
 
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