The team was Jobs, Forestall and Ive. They were great. The problem is Forestall was a threat to Crook so Crook got rid of him by setting him up. Forestall was meant to get the CEO job in three to five years when he was ready as he was a product design person. He got blamed for the maps fiasco, but Apple has shown they won’t give the resources needed to finish any project Tim doesn’t want done and he’s not a product person. So we got Vision Pro which is not ready for a mass market as it’s clunky. Oh Apple Car. Services is what Tim is good at peddling and ripping off developers. He spent $10B on Apple Car when he should have spent it on Siri and AI. Apple has ruined the brand Apple Intelligence. He’s a bad CEO, and I would love the board to say well it may not be the best for the short term stock price but innovation and goodwill need to come back to Apple let’s put Forestall in the role.
There was nothing wrong with the design or idea of the Touch Bar, wider implementation was the issue
that's how it seems, that's how we're getting the iphone 17 pro..
I think hardware design leaks so close to the release usually end up being right unfortunately. I agree that it’s not sleek
But we’ve had rumors with mockups like this for quite a while. Even if the actual product is similar to this I think it will look better (at least the two-toned part).
And what are they saying about the rest of the executive team if they think one person could to make such a decision with no pushback?
It's already in production. The design is final. They'd have to scrap months of production to change it now.
Yes, the design team was so transparent, they ended up with that Liquid Glass nonsense.
It's so sad. Ive used to be a good designer. The original iMacs, the original iBooks, the PowerBook G3, the G3 tower - all great. It started going downhill with the TiBook, utterly uninspired design, horrible materials choice, and that sort of aesthetic took over and destroyed his brain.
No. Everything was wrong with it.
I would go as far as to say that it's not only the AI product that Apple would be bypassed by. Tim has stagnated the development of Apple's products because he has figured out the way the slower you make the changes, the more cash you can milk from an already closed-off ecosystem. What he doesn't seem to realise is the product is aging and is not going along with times, except their Mac lineup that is truly great. Perhaps that's because computers don't exist in such extreme fast-paced environments as other electronics do? No idea, but it seems to me the only product line he has not screwed up now is the Mac.
I wonder, would the Touch Bar have been good if it was in addition to but not a replacement of the Function Keys?
Yes. I have no issue with the idea of a Touch Bar. But there are certain functions you should be able to do without looking at the keyboard, like adjusting the volume and brightness. And of course media playback buttons.
Exactly. This decision screams “Bad Management” to me.
In that case you simply have not used the internet. Everyone gets harassed and bullied in internet comments somewhere.
