No, it's that customers don't have an alternative. You seem to be a fanboy for Apple.
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Apple's Efforts to Block 'Right to Repair' Laws Highlighted in New Report
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Have you considered that having Apple/Apple authorized repair shops handling the repairs might mean LESS ewaste than some rando doing it? Apple who has a vested interest in its environmental image and therefore is incentivized to recycle as much of the device as possible? Not to mention Apple can refurbish and certify the iPhones it takes in when it swaps them rather than repair them on site?
Meanwhile what is Larry’s Repair Hut going to do with that damaged screen? You think they are as concerned or incentivized to be sure it’s properly recycled or or they more likely than Apple to simply toss the old parts in the trash.
If reducing ewaste is your concern, my bet is going through Apple is the most responsible course of action. It just might not be the cheapest, but then you do get what you pay for.
Apple's new slogan for everything that they do
Yeah, one thing is to repair a fender, another one to repair the transmission. Can't compare. Sometimes I wonder whether people think before replying to a post or just like to repeat other people's opinion thinking that will make them feel important.
Basically the law forced Apple to sell products to anyone who wants and repair schematics. I think a compromise if a path to certification open to anyone can meet Apples standards.
Forcing companies to sell or give info to any rando who wants them is Tom much market interference.
Edited: my comment was nonsense before (and might still be)
Forcing companies to sell or give info to any rando who wants them is Tom much market interference.
Edited: my comment was nonsense before (and might still be)
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Truly amazes me how many fanboys and zealots are on MR.
I see both sides of the argument here, I do think right to repair should be law, but I also think requiring a certified Apple technician is reasonable.
i had my iPhone 6 Plus screen replaced by a non apple repair shop in a mall, saved me $100 off Apple’s repair costs, my front camera became flaky and I would get condensation under the screen.
i had my iPhone 6 Plus screen replaced by a non apple repair shop in a mall, saved me $100 off Apple’s repair costs, my front camera became flaky and I would get condensation under the screen.
Money talks, BS walks. Still, if you take some time to research on what Apple has done as a company to protect the environment, you comments would be more substantial.
Please do tell us what Apple has done for the environment? And please don't quote Apple marketing.
Darth Tulhu
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I fall on the right-to-repair side of this issue and think that what Apple is doing is straight-up BS.
However, this won't stop me from buying Apple products as I know full well that if you don't get AppleCare and/or resell your device when the warranty expires, you're ASKING for it.
I'm an Apple junkie. I KNOW its killing me, but the high is just too sweet.
However, this won't stop me from buying Apple products as I know full well that if you don't get AppleCare and/or resell your device when the warranty expires, you're ASKING for it.
I'm an Apple junkie. I KNOW its killing me, but the high is just too sweet.
Apple views their devices as "appliances". How many consumers are opening up their microwaves and flat-screen TVs? When they are not working correctly, how many take them in for repairs, or simply buy a new one? It's this definition as a "replaceable applicance" that enables the sleek designs that we have today.
I do think that Apple devices could be more "modular", enabling upgrades without having to fully disassemble the device.
I do think that Apple devices could be more "modular", enabling upgrades without having to fully disassemble the device.
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Massive solar farms. Data centers powered by 100% renewable energy. 100% recycled alumimum. Elimination of conflict materials. Free take-back and recycling programs to reclaim parts and materials.
Shall I go on?
Apparently a different one than you where you just make things up the OP didn’t even say.
“Right to repair” has absolutely nothing to do with any companies obligation to repair a device under warranty or due to their own fault. Nothing. Bringing that up doesn’t make a lick of sense.
And if you want to try and fix the phone on your own or have someone else try and do it, go for it. No one is stopping you. Again, that’s not at all what these so-called “Right to repair” laws are about. They are about requiring Apple to sell parts and provide detailed information to anyone. Maybe that’s a good idea, maybe it’s not, but it has nothing to do with any of the things your post brought up.
I totally understand they are different beasts from a technical perspective, but the electorate won't care. The only thing voters care about is the impact on their bottom line. And this favors independent repairs whether we like or not.
Please do. It is NOT 100% recycled Al. They still use rare earths contained under dubious circumstances. 100% renewable energy that they buy from elsewhere. The solar farms do not cover all energy use.
You should read the reports on the effectiveness of what they are doing. Apple's policies on not repairing and pushing customers to buy new devices is NOT helping the environment.
Uh…what does it matter where they buy it from if it’s renewable energy? It’s still renewable.
The real benefit of these laws would be to drive design direction.
Apple could and would still make amazing, thin, sexy devices if they were more repairable and accessible to the owners.
Demand more from the megacorp everyone
Apple could and would still make amazing, thin, sexy devices if they were more repairable and accessible to the owners.
Demand more from the megacorp everyone
Yet another example of the US education system.
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I think you'll find it is 100% renewable by using energy credits, i.e. they pay to offset their emissions. It is not 100% recycled Al and there are a number of lawsuits re cobalt mining etc; there is no way they are anywhere near zero emissions on their production, something like only 7-8% of their manufacturing is "green"
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Darth Tulhu
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I did for almost 8 years. And I was HAPPY.
Now I'm back because the ecosystem just. can't. be. matched.
All my home and family devices are Apple, and iOS/iPadOS are the dominant forces in my house. I just ordered some AirTags and an iPad Pro. Waiting for redesigned MBAs and WWDC. Christmas will signal new iPad for my daughter (a graphic artist).
So for now, the hook is in my mouth and it's sweet and delicious even if I may have to keep wiping the blood off my shirt.
You can do that today. It isn't illegal to repair your own device. You can even take it to people who don't know how to repair it if you want to.