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I did for almost 8 years. And I was HAPPY.

Now I'm back because the ecosystem just. can't. be. matched.

All my home and family devices are Apple, and iOS/iPadOS are the dominant forces in my house. I just ordered some AirTags and an iPad Pro. Waiting for redesigned MBAs and WWDC. Christmas will signal new iPad for my daughter (a graphic artist).

So for now, the hook is in my mouth and it's sweet and delicious even if I may have to keep wiping the blood off my shirt.

🤣🤣
 
Please do tell us what Apple has done for the environment? And please don't quote Apple marketing.
Why should I? Do your own research, because even if I did it, you wouldn't believe me.

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Let me show you how it's done. It's simple:

And just skip any pages pointing at Apple.com if you don't trust them.
 
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You can do that today. It isn't illegal to repair your own device. You can even take it to people who don't know how to repair it if you want to.
More misleadingly named legislation. As stated, you have every right to repair your own device or have anyone in the world do so. It probably doesn't even void your warranty unless you do it wrong and break the device.

A lot of these "right to repair" laws obligate apple to tell 3rd parties how to service various components and provide parts at some sort of wholesale price (which doesn't exist today since Apple doesn't sell parts let alone wholesale).
 
A lot of these "right to repair" laws obligate apple to tell 3rd parties how to service various components and provide parts at some sort of wholesale price (which doesn't exist today since Apple doesn't sell parts let alone wholesale).

Good!
That's in my interest as a device owner

I don't care if it inconveniences the 2 trillion dollar cash machine
 
You do realize there is a dramatic difference between repairing a car and repairing a phone right? Like these two things are orders of magnitude different in size, which, whether you admit it or not, has a significant impact on repairability. To compare the two situations without acknowledging that is to render your argument null and void.
Not really. Both require a skill and practice. I can’t do body work for crap but I can change my phones battery if Apple would sell me one
 
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That is why I have been saying for the last 10 years, buy AppleCare for everything you buy from Apple, because every year it gets less and less you can repair or upgrade on Apple products. And now with the ability to extend the AppleCare past the three years, you can be covered as long as you want on repairs and technical support of the product.
 
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Probably, but then you complain to Apple and they will give you a new or refurb device with zero damage (and a new battery!).
I also paid for Apple care so they have too replace it. Wouldn’t be a good look for Apple
It will be a refurb. So Apple breaks my phone and then gives me a refurb as a replacement. That’s gonna go well for them.
 
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Once I accidentally broke my iPad Pro 9.5" (1st gen) display.
I took it to the Apple Store and they told me my AppleCare had expire a month ago. :eek:
The Genius then talked to a Manager and in the end they honored it as it if was under AppleCare, I just happily paid the deductible, and got a replacement unit! 🥳
 
Like many others, I can repair most anything. The key is having access to the correct part. By correct part, I mean the official OEM part not some knock off part. Apple refuses to sell most if not all OEM parts. Once Apple decrees a device is obsolete, repairs become near impossible. Perhaps if Apple would simply agree to repair any Apple device of any age for a fee, then all that needs to be negotiated is the fee. The fee would include what most expect, Parts, Labor, Warranty period for the actual repair, and of course taxes. Except for the part cost, everything else is pretty much constrained. I expect it would be easier for Apple to just make the parts available. Apple's culture is all about making things expensive and or difficult. It did not use to be that way. In 1978, my Apple][ came with a schematic and a printout of machine codes and access addresses to ease repairs and machine mods.
 
That is why I have been saying for the last 10 years, buy AppleCare for everything you buy from Apple, because every year it gets less and less you can repair or upgrade on Apple products. And now with the ability to extend the AppleCare past the three years, you can be covered as long as you want on repairs and technical support of the product.
It’s all about Apple marking more
Money by allowing the user less
Control
 
I also paid for Apple care so they have too replace it. Wouldn’t be a good look for Apple
It will be a refurb. So Apple breaks my phone and then gives me a refurb as a replacement. That’s gonna go well for them.
Try that at the little repair shop, they will tell you it was part of the process of repairing it and couldn't be avoided.
Then you finally read the fine print on the work order and realize you signed a document without reading it first, and legally you have no case against them, and now have to live with the scratches they put on your device.
 
That is why I have been saying for the last 10 years, buy AppleCare for everything you buy from Apple, because every year it gets less and less you can repair or upgrade on Apple products. And now with the ability to extend the AppleCare past the three years, you can be covered as long as you want on repairs and technical support of the product.
I have a number of Apple products older than three years, as far as I can tell, there is no way to extend the AppleCare beyond three years, let alone for ten years or more. I would be interested in how you accomplished this. Thanks
 
The original Apple ran by an engineer Steve Wozniak encouraged right to repair and even provided schematics and firmware disassembly. The Apple now is run by an old creepy grinch driven by profit and disposability.

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I look at it this way now. In 1978, I pulled my engine out of my 1968 Pontiac Firebird and replaced the camshaft in the engine with a Clinton car repair manual. Now with my 2021 GMC Acadia with all the computers in the car I would not even touch it. I have the dealership do everything. I lease it for 3 years and then turn it back in. All my car warranty's are covered under those three years and they even do the oil changes for me and take care of the tires. The things you need cost money and you just budget for it in life.

Also I was an Apple Level 2 Repair Technician, certified in 1982 to repair All the Apple products up to the Original Mac Plus models.
 
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I believe them too. AppleCare+ is the best protection plan in the industry and it just makes this argument moot.
That would literally be Apple's goal? Did you just provide a counterpoint that actually proves the guy you're replying to's point?
 
That's in my interest as a device owner

I don't care if it inconveniences the 2 trillion dollar cash machine
It’s in my interest that all iPhones are free. I don’t care if it inconveniences a 2 trillion dollar company!

Without any principles guiding the acceptable range of interference we just become wolves fighting over how to eat the sheep - like we do with the fed and their money. The fact you thinks it’s good for you is not a justification. It’s good for me if you send me your paycheck every month but that doesn’t mean it’s right or a morally just outcome.
 
That is why I have been saying for the last 10 years, buy AppleCare for everything you buy from Apple, because every year it gets less and less you can repair or upgrade on Apple products. And now with the ability to extend the AppleCare past the three years, you can be covered as long as you want on repairs and technical support of the product.
Right but Right to Repair allows us to go to a shop other then the manufacture if your device breaks. For example, if your MacBook Pro stops working and you take it to Apple, will they replace the chip that failed, probably not. They will nickle and dime you but discounted since you have AppleCare. You'll end up purchasing a new device or they say it can't be repaired where a third party such as Rossmann Group can.

Look at the bigger picture, it's cheaper and better for the environment to have the component replaced rather then getting a new machine as Apple limits what they can actually repair.
 
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