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Apple's Existing Mac Lines Tweaked for OS X Lion

res1233 said:
So you didn't understand my philosophical point I'm guessing? Shame.
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Unless you meant that both had equal value, no, we didn't get your point.

Anyway, OS debates are moot nowadays. The OS is not what you use the computer for, it's the software/tasks you perform. The OS is mostly down to personal preference unless your workflow has tasks that require very precise software that isn't multi-platform.
 
matthew12 said:
You don't have to purchase Apple's flash drive installation option if you've already purchased Lion from the app store. All you have to do is buy an 8GB flash drive from Best Buy or somewhere and copy the installation image to the drive using Disk Utility. Then you've only spent $20 or so extra instead of $69 extra.
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It's already been around for a while that you can look into the osx lion app in the shared folder,there's the LionESD.dmg there,burn that and you have a valid DVD Lion disk
 
KnightWRX said:
Unless you meant that both had equal value, no, we didn't get your point.

Anyway, OS debates are moot nowadays. The OS is not what you use the computer for, it's the software/tasks you perform. The OS is mostly down to personal preference unless your workflow has tasks that require very precise software that isn't multi-platform.
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Wow... I'll explain it then: The desert is what we would call a "hot" place, as in, it is not a cold place. In such an environment, water is valued because it's what we humans use to keep our bodies cool. In the middle of the ocean, there is plenty of water. In such an environment, water is less valued because there is a ton of it all around you. This compares to the windows world where, while windows 7 is sure a nice OS, it's only considered that relative to what the windows world is used to, such as Vista.

I guess philosophy is wasted on people here though... I think it was pretty clear. Oh well. :p
 
res1233 said:
Wow... I'll explain it then: The desert is what we would call a "hot" place, as in, it is not a cold place. In such an environment, water is valued because it's what we humans use to keep our bodies cool. In the middle of the ocean, there is plenty of water. In such an environment, water is less valued because there is a ton of it all around you. This compares to the windows world where, while windows 7 is sure a nice OS, it's only considered that relative to what the windows world is used to, such as Vista.

I guess philosophy is wasted on people here though... I think it was pretty clear. Oh well. :p
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You really think the reason people need water is to keep us cool? Wow.
Although, I suppose if that's what you think, it explains why you don't understand that all of the water in the ocean is absolutely useless to a human (for the real reason we need water, that is)
 
bpaluzzi said:
You really think the reason people need water is to keep us cool? Wow.
Although, I suppose if that's what you think, it explains why you don't understand that all of the water in the ocean is absolutely useless to a human (for the real reason we need water, that is)
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Yet another example of missing the point. I give up.
 
res1233 said:
Wow... I'll explain it then: The desert is what we would call a "hot" place, as in, it is not a cold place. In such an environment, water is valued because it's what we humans use to keep our bodies cool. In the middle of the ocean, there is plenty of water. In such an environment, water is less valued because there is a ton of it all around you.
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That is a very flawed and basic assumption that ignores the fact that you will die in 5 days in both cases without access to clean drinking water. The reason you need water is to keep your body hydrated. Salt water does not keep your body hydrated.

And people keep cool in the desert by dressing in full clothes that block out sun and control body temperature, not by drinking water. Water is again to keep you hydrated, something you need to do at sea also.

Water is valued both at sea and in the desert. Your "philosophy" wasn't quite that deep or profound, quite the contrary, you basically just showed us how you don't scratch farther from the surface for the truth. You basically blurted out some non-sense that while might have seemed sensical at first glance, fell apart upon the most basic of detailed analysis.


res1233 said:
Yet another example of missing the point. I give up.
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Yes, give up before you end up not being able to climb out of the hole you're digging yourself into. ;)
 
res1233 said:
Yet another example of missing the point. I give up.
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I guess so. Explain your point to us. Be specific.

From where I'm sitting (and everyone else that has even a remedial understanding of biology), you're making no point at all.

But go ahead, give it a shot.
 
WiiDSmoker said:
Windows 7 is amazing. So is Snow Leopard and Lion. You do know that two great products can co-exists right?
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Derekuda said:
This is just one more reason as to why I finally called it quits on Apple after being a mac user for 9 years. I went back to Windows, and I gotta say I love me some Windows 7.

I don't mean to sound soo negative, but Steve's thoughts that no one uses CD's anymore is recockulous. Not everyone has high speed internet...and sadly...some people still don't have internet at all (shudders).

Also.. Apple sure has gotten a lot more greedy in the last few years. $69 for a USB stick!!!
Don't get me wrong... I really like OSX, but Apple is dumbing down the idea of owning a computer soo much. I actually enjoy cracking open my stuff and swaping out parts. I don't want to pay Apple to replace a hard drive for $200 when I can buy a hard drive at best buy for $40 and do it myself.
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Got my mac mini yesterday, cloned the hard drive to a faster one and swapped it with the original in less than half an hour, and most of that time was spent cloning the drive. Upgraded the ram at the same time. Sounds like I just did what you claim you like to do, but can't on a mac.

$69 for a USB stick with OSX Lion installed??? What a ripoff!!! Enjoy going to Windows where OEM copies of Windows 7 Home Premium start at over $100 and retail copies cost even more. Wouldn't it be more sensible to make your own USB stick if Apple's solution costs too much for you, instead of going to Windows where OEMs also don't provide boot disks with new PCs (and provide no option to download a copy if your hard drive crashes)?
 
ChrisCW11 said:
But damn Apple, do it right! Until iCloud arrives, currently you can purchase and download something once from the app/music store, and then you can't get it again. I was charged twice for Lion after the first installation was botched (by the Lion installer on a RAID disk). I lost the original installer and so was made aware you can supposedly re-download content off the App store, however this just cause me to re-buy the installer again.
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You can already re-download purchases from the App/music store. In fact the only way you can purchase Lion twice is doing it under a different apple ID or through a glitch with the service.

If you used a different apple ID too bad your error, if a service glitch contact apple and work it out with them.
 
Isn't Mission Control the replacement for Exposé? (Mixed with Spaces, I suppose.) The keyboard change, whatever it is (different icon?), is not surprising. I am a bit surprised about Dashboard, however--I use that more than I've ever used Launchpad, which so far has been about twice to see what it was all about.

I'm also surprised they removed physical media from the existing machines, although I suppose it makes sense given that Lion doesn't (currently) ship on any.
 
Discovered this one the hard way. We just got in a MacBook Pro, and I netbooted it to install some software off of our DeployStudio server. Unfortunately, the wrong job was selected and it wiped the hard drive. No problem, I thought, go back and grab the... install... discs... crap.

I'm going to shoot AppleCare a question about this, see what they have to say for people in my situation.
 
I think the fact that Apple is no longer including restore discs with MacBook Pros gives credence to the recent rumors of next generation MacBook Pros shipping without optical drives at all.
 
rafaltrus said:
I got your point/philosophy and I agree with it. I have had a Windows 7 laptop and just bought my first MBP (a couple of days ago). I love both because they are unique!
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It's funny because his point was the complete opposite of what you "got" and basically what we've been telling him all this time. ;)

IE : you just agreed with us that his point doesn't make much sense.
 
wescravn said:
Smoker, Agreed Windows 7/8 is a amazing POS! :D
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Windows 7, which you might have used, and Windows 8, which nobody has really used, is "a amazing POS"? Spoken like a true Macophile.

While I prefer SL my Windows 7 installations work really well. Most of their issues have to do either with connecting with my Macs or working on Apple hardeware.

W7 can be made to look better than the default look. Even then it still doesn't look near as good as SL but isn't all that bad compared to some of the Lion changes.
 
tarproductions said:
I think the fact that Apple is no longer including restore discs with MacBook Pros gives credence to the recent rumors of next generation MacBook Pros shipping without optical drives at all.
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I hope so. Honestly, in 2011 - ? there is no such a need for spacious superdrives and CD/DVD disks. Thumb-drives are just enough. Although, I am not sure about BlueRay...
 
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