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Apple's Face ID Turns Android Makers Away From Under-Screen Fingerprint Recognition
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Be prepared to keep blowing off $1,000 every year or two for the Face ID embedded iPhone, or $100 or more per month on the carrier plan. It'll get worse when it comes to iPad which will cost even more. Never praise Apple for getting away with things they think is 'trendy'.
People like you give Apple the wrong impression that it's 'okay to get away with charging $1000 just for Face ID'.
And when they ditch Touch ID, you will wish they kept it. You're paying $1,000 for the exact same OS that's across all devices that were updated for FREE annually. The only difference are the cameras and Face ID. Wireless charging is nothing and ancient news with Qi technology. Nothing revolutionary but something that Apple should have done about 3 years ago.
They don't wait to get it right, they wait until the LAST MINUTE to get it out there. There's a pattern to it. Pay close attention.
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Now wait for the brigade who have no knowledge of business planning or logistics who will come in and insist that it was all last minute. It has to be because the notch is "so bad" and every rumor they'd read on Macrumors for the past year has to be true. And without trying FaceID, TouchID on the back has to have been better.
You have a rock from the future?!
Looks like the roles on innovators and followers have switched between Apple and Android.
Two-Factor Authentication -> FaceID + Under-the-screen TouchID
It would be nice if the industries continued to work on under the screen sensors. I would have accepted for Apple to have included TouchID on the back of the X. Apple, however, wants the perception that FaceID is so good that there's no need for other authentication features. So they're all in for FaceID for the time being. Considering Apple's past, "TouchID," the brand, will never come back. Fingerprint technology... that has a chance to return, but that all depends on how FaceID holds up and the branding will be different.
It would be nice if the industries continued to work on under the screen sensors. I would have accepted for Apple to have included TouchID on the back of the X. Apple, however, wants the perception that FaceID is so good that there's no need for other authentication features. So they're all in for FaceID for the time being. Considering Apple's past, "TouchID," the brand, will never come back. Fingerprint technology... that has a chance to return, but that all depends on how FaceID holds up and the branding will be different.
iPhone 8 will be my last iPhone unless Apple implements Touch ID again.
FaceID is impressive, but I still want TouchID. A mix of the two would really be the ultimate security combination.
Fixed it, I think, English isn't my first language...
Ha! Sorry- I wasn’t being rude
I was just making a little joke. It’s an easy mistake to make for English speakers too!
Why? I want my phone to unlock / work just for me and no one else.
It's why I set a password. Touch ID was more convenient when that came along so that's what I use now instead of typing in a password every time. If with my next phone I can swipe up from the bottom of the screen because it's recognised my face, then that seems more convenient than Touch ID.
Hopefully the next iPhone will have both Face ID and under screen Touch ID and allow the user to choose which to use, making no need to branch the lineup in 2 directions like they have with the iPhone 8 and X . Maybe they are just buying time with the 8 until the under screen touch id tech is good and ready.
I did almost buy an 8 last night , i love my SE, but the glass back of the 8 means it did not slip out my hands like the 6 did and feels great.
I did almost buy an 8 last night , i love my SE, but the glass back of the 8 means it did not slip out my hands like the 6 did and feels great.
I just don’t like FaceID. It looks gimmicky and far less intuitive than TouchID.
It makes a great tech demo (when it works ) but I feel like using it day to day would get old quick. Plus I do not like being unable to wake up my device without unlocking. There are going to be a host of situations faceID breaks and the solution is “oh well”.
I feel like we’ve given up a lot to get bezel free devices and I’m not sure the trade offs were worth it.
It makes a great tech demo (when it works
) but I feel like using it day to day would get old quick. Plus I do not like being unable to wake up my device without unlocking. There are going to be a host of situations faceID breaks and the solution is “oh well”. I feel like we’ve given up a lot to get bezel free devices and I’m not sure the trade offs were worth it.
Ha! Sorry- I wasn’t being rude
It’s an easy mistake to make for English speakers too!
It's all good buddy, now about that rock from the future.....
My voice is my password ... that really took off, didn't it?
"I've always found is that you've got to start with the customer experience and work backwards to the technology. You can't start with the technology and try to figure out where you're going to try to sell it." -- S. Jobs
For facial recognition, we have yet to see customer experiences on a large scale, one that would validate what Apple claims is its core approach to product design. Sir Ives has demonstrated many times that he needs supervision when it comes to human interface details.
"I've always found is that you've got to start with the customer experience and work backwards to the technology. You can't start with the technology and try to figure out where you're going to try to sell it." -- S. Jobs
For facial recognition, we have yet to see customer experiences on a large scale, one that would validate what Apple claims is its core approach to product design. Sir Ives has demonstrated many times that he needs supervision when it comes to human interface details.
Oh you mean a password? Its been noted before, TouchID is inherently less secure than FaceID due to, you know, the nature of our fingers. Why couple a less secure authentication system just because it came first?
Are there actually people who still want to track balls under the mice, maybe coupled with a laser because its what they are used to?
Finally I encourage you to read up on security. Biometrics alone are not a good way of securing things. They are a convenience for identifying users but are themselves poor for securing anything. They are non revocable, hackable, not for everyone and can't be shared. You literally expose your biometrics everywhere you go. If you had to expose your password to your email everywhere you walked, would two of them make it more secure? No. Especially since you can't change them. This is about convenience.
A chain is only as strong as its weakest link, and having both Face ID and Touch ID simply means that your phone is only as secure as the least secure means of authentication (which is Touch ID in this case).
That's just not the way Apple operates, and this is what sets Apple apart from the rest of the competition. A company like Samsung just crams a veritable array of unlock methods into their phone, all of them with their share of shortcomings. Pattern unlock is easy to crack, fingerprint sensor is in an awkward location, and iris scanner is easy to fool. It's really feature bloat for the sake of ticking off a checklist. At the end of the day, your phone isn't necessarily more secure despite having 5 different unlocking options to choose from.
Meanwhile, Apple spares no expense at perfecting Face ID so it can serve as a viable upgrade to Touch ID. Sure, you have one, but it will be the best one Apple can offer. When the iPhone X is released, I think it's going to be clear just how superior Face ID is to Samsung's iris scanner technology. And I am excited to see how facial recognition plays into other Apple technologies, such as health tracking.
That is courage. That is Apple.
Pure speculation . Naturally android manufactures will enquire about the tech. Headphones jack removal enquiries also tripled etc..... any smart competitor will assess the competition ....
Though the assessment that it will take 3 years to catch up.... lol
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Ha ha ha brilliant ...... and as much as it seems like it's aburd.... Cook will offer it for £99, wireless version £150...
Though the assessment that it will take 3 years to catch up.... lol
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Ha ha ha brilliant ...... and as much as it seems like it's aburd.... Cook will offer it for £99, wireless version £150...
Any company can take facial recognition technology already in the market today and shove it into a phone. But to do it as well as Apple?
This is classic Apple doing what it does best: take an emerging product category with a frustrating user experience and delivering a polished product made possible by its control over both the hardware and software.
i don't give a damn about facts, i only trust trolls in the macrumors forums. face id is going to be a total flop, just like the removal of the 3.5 mm jack. not even google will try to adapt this tech in its pixel 3.
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Would you prefer I update that to THREE-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION? Is that better for you?
I don't understand why people like you have to shut it down with TouchID. I understand the security pitfalls of the technology.
It's not like I'm arguing for Apple to take away FaceID or the passcode. It's not a bad thing for TouchID to remain part of the iPhone and coincide with FaceID and be used in conjunction with FaceID to create a more detailed signature of a person's identity.
If YOU don't like TouchID and it's not secure enough for YOU, then YOU don't need to use it. Personal preferences...
If someone wants a mouse with a trackball instead of a laser and someone wants to sell it to them, then how does that affect you?