Apple's Fear Of Top 6 Samsung Android Phones

[ap3604]

I'm an Apple fan but I REALLY hope they lose this case against Samsung.

Otherwise any slate phone and tablet in the future is going to get you sued.

I could care less about Apple keeping their stranglehold on their design since they already make enough money as is.

 

[Vegastouch]

The only people worried are the people who buy Samsung products. Cheap crap that has no customer support. How many Samsung Stores have you walked into lately? Sorry, you have to go through K-Mart, or Wal Mart or one of the other box stores when you have problems. I'm sure those geniuses at Wal mart or Best Buy can help you. Samsung, yea, that's quality.



I don't because I don't buy crap.

And when i took my Wifes phone back because of a problem, they gave us a loaner phone til the new one arrived at the house (T-Mobile store)
Not saying the support is near as good as Apples but it worked when we needed it.
As for me, im not worried a bit. Samsung is doing great things but id buy another brand if it were better.

Yes i use to own a Samsung TV. A DLP HDTV that was junk. Got rid of It. Yes, a Samsung Blu Ray player. Returned it. Junk. If you want a real blu ray player you get an OPPO. 1000 times better. You want a real HDTV, get a used Pioneer Elite. A 5 year old Elite will beat anything Samsung can make right now. I buy quality, not junk.

Yep, DLP is crap.

 

[Hueyfreeman]

For those of you saying that apple hast enough money to buy the competition are sadly mistaken. Apple is sitting on a large amount of money but not nearly enough to buy Samsung or google or half of the other handset makers in the world.

On a side note I have more respect for Samsung then I do for apple one thing I really love about that company is that they make their products in their country and not somewhere elese. In these tough times it is good to see a company with the loyalty to the people of its country.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

For those of you saying that apple hast enough money to buy the competition are sadly mistaken. Apple is sitting on a large amount of money but not nearly enough to buy Samsung or google or half of the other handset makers in the world.

On a side note I have more respect for Samsung then I do for apple one thing I really love about that company is that they make their products in their country and not somewhere elese. In these tough times it is good to see a company with the loyalty to the people of its country.

You say that as if Samsung was an American company, everything Samsung would be made in USA.

 

[Vegastouch]

For those of you saying that apple hast enough money to buy the competition are sadly mistaken. Apple is sitting on a large amount of money but not nearly enough to buy Samsung or google or half of the other handset makers in the world.

On a side note I have more respect for Samsung then I do for apple one thing I really love about that company is that they make their products in their country and not somewhere elese. In these tough times it is good to see a company with the loyalty to the people of its country.

Not sure what to think about this. Where else should they make it? Here in the USA?...LOL. A lot of things that are made cheap are made in Korea.

 

[DanteMann]

Not sure what to think about this. Where else should they make it? Here in the USA?...LOL. A lot of things that are made cheap are made in Korea.

And a lot of cheaper things are made in China. So I guess if Samsung really wanted to get greedy, they could do what Apple and almost every other company does, and take it to China. Don't ya just love how some like to think of iPhone as this high end luxury item? Then you turn it over and it's got the same Made In China stamp as every item in the dollar store.

 

[dccorona]

We all read that article on Apple having enough liquid money to buy most of their competitors, right?

I think they're comfortable. Far from fearful.

Apple able to buy Google? Or Samsung? Or LG? or Sony? Or Microsoft?

Good joke

 

[boss.king]

Apple able to buy Google? Or Samsung? Or LG? or Sony? Or Microsoft?

Good joke

Yeah, Apple has lots of money, but not enough to buy out the competition. Samsung dwarfs Apple, and Google and Microsoft (as far as I remember) are each worth more than Apple has. I'd imagine LG and Sony are they same.

Anyone who thinks Apple could buy out any one of these companies is misinformed.

 

[Bernard SG]

Yeah, Apple has lots of money, but not enough to buy out the competition. Samsung dwarfs Apple, and Google and Microsoft (as far as I remember) are each worth more than Apple has. I'd imagine LG and Sony are they same.

Anyone who thinks Apple could buy out any one of these companies is misinformed.

Samsung's Market cap is currently about $ 110 billion. Apple has 70 b in cash.
It wouldn't be hard at all for Apple to find banks to finance the gap assuming that an acquisition of Samsung by Apple had a sound strategic pertinence but it doesn't seem to; moreover even if it were so, the Korean government wouldn't allow it.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

And a lot of cheaper things are made in China. So I guess if Samsung really wanted to get greedy, they could do what Apple and almost every other company does, and take it to China. Don't ya just love how some like to think of iPhone as this high end luxury item? Then you turn it over and it's got the same Made In China stamp as every item in the dollar store.

You act like anything with a "Made in China" label is made from the same factory and/or manufacturer. China does produce a lot of quality goods.

Cheap labor doesn't equate bad or poorly made products. The iPhone's hardware since day one has always been up there in terms of quality compared to most other devices.

 

[maclaptop]

Its a well known fact that nothing is better for the consumer than choices. Competition provides this, and everyone benefits. Androids, Windows Phone 7, and iPhones all play a very important part in this vibrant segment of the tech sector.

 

[boss.king]

Samsung's Market cap is currently about $ 110 billion. Apple has 70 b in cash.
It wouldn't be hard at all for Apple to find banks to finance the gap assuming that an acquisition of Samsung by Apple had a sound strategic pertinence but it doesn't seem to; moreover even if it were so, the Korean government wouldn't allow it.

Where are you getting those figures from? I've been looking around but I can't find any reasonable estimates of the value, cash reserves, etc of each company. I'm curious to see where yours came from.

 

[bigsexyy81]

I wish I could get interested in any other phone besides the iPhone. I really do. I get bored of phones way too fast to be tied to one phone for more than a year.

I gave the ol' Android a shot with the Thunderbolt. Good phone. Miserable battery. Didn't find Android to be all it was cracked up to be. Not bad by any means. If I couldn't have iOS, I'd be plenty happy with it. Just different, and not necessarily in a better way.

I LOVE the looks of the Droid Charge. Phone is friggin' gorgeous. I really dig the Infuse 4G. I'm sure I will find the SGS2 to be a very good phone, too (although I haven't been impressed with what I have seen on video. doesn't look any better than the Charge or Infuse).

I don't get caught up in the whole 'quadruple processor 16 Ghz 14 Gb RAM' hoopla. They mean nothing as many of the different true performance tests have shown. Put a phone in my hand for 5 minutes and I can tell you if I can live with the performance of the phone. A pure iPhone (not JB) is butter-smooth. And it's blazing fast. And I can have plenty of multi-tasking going on without lagging. I was slightly surprised that it seemed to be the case with the Thunderbolt and even the Inspire 4G. Yet, every other top end smartphone I put my hands on, including those from Samsung and Motorola, falter when their spec sheet says they shouldn't.

If I could get everything I get with an iPhone in a different handset (great screen, great performance, outstanding battery life, best app catalog in the biz, and all of the other things that now go with a smartphone like GPS, Outlook email and contacts, good music player, good browser, yada yada), I'd gladly change. It just seems that every major phone out there is missing one or two of these, which makes the iPhone just that much harder going away from.

Different strokes for different folks. I can tell you that Samsung can come out with the best looking screen out there and with a dual core and everything else they are adding into the SGS2, and it still won't change many peoples' minds who enjoy their iPhone. Not until it is running iOS or has some fruit placed on the backpiece.

 

[omicron]

I don't because I don't buy crap.

You paid how much for your foxconn built computer? The last time I saw foxconn was in an emachines my parents owned. Foxconn makes stuff for EVERYONE. Your iMac was probably assembled in the same factory that makes Dells and HPs.

ANYWAY this is getting out of hand.
My android point earlier was for maturity on tablets. They are just starting and tablets are a bit of a different breed than smartphones obviously. I still admire the 2.x android OS. I am also interested in windows 8. Looks like a nifty tablet UI. I actually like windows phone 7's minimalistic designa and I love how they took design cues from it though not sure about it being in a desktop OS...

I've been sticking with iOS for it's maturity. Android's browser is slow and felt sluggish when I used froyo. But it does a lot of things well. Only time will tell who will be the winner in this interesting time in our digital world.

 

[Stealthipad]

The only people worried are the people who buy Samsung products. Cheap crap that has no customer support. How many Samsung Stores have you walked into lately? Sorry, you have to go through K-Mart, or Wal Mart or one of the other box stores when you have problems. I'm sure those geniuses at Wal mart or Best Buy can help you. Samsung, yea, that's quality.

I don't because I don't buy crap.

The Samsung Galaxy S2 is the best phone on the market now. It exceeds the iPhone in build quality and performance. I set my new SG2 next to my iP4 and laugh at the apple screen.

The AMOLED screen is bright, sharp and saturated. It uses less power than the iPhone even though it is bigger. Images, maps, etc all move with a smoothness with you finger that Apple only dreams about.

If you DO look at the SG2 you will realize that you ALREADY BOUGHT CRAP!

I wish I could get interested in any other phone besides the iPhone. I really do. I get bored of phones way too fast to be tied to one phone for more than a year.

I gave the ol' Android a shot with the Thunderbolt. Good phone. Miserable battery. Didn't find Android to be all it was cracked up to be. Not bad by any means. If I couldn't have iOS, I'd be plenty happy with it. Just different, and not necessarily in a better way.

I LOVE the looks of the Droid Charge. Phone is friggin' gorgeous. I really dig the Infuse 4G. I'm sure I will find the SGS2 to be a very good phone, too (although I haven't been impressed with what I have seen on video. doesn't look any better than the Charge or Infuse).

I don't get caught up in the whole 'quadruple processor 16 Ghz 14 Gb RAM' hoopla. They mean nothing as many of the different true performance tests have shown. Put a phone in my hand for 5 minutes and I can tell you if I can live with the performance of the phone. A pure iPhone (not JB) is butter-smooth. And it's blazing fast. And I can have plenty of multi-tasking going on without lagging. I was slightly surprised that it seemed to be the case with the Thunderbolt and even the Inspire 4G. Yet, every other top end smartphone I put my hands on, including those from Samsung and Motorola, falter when their spec sheet says they shouldn't.

If I could get everything I get with an iPhone in a different handset (great screen, great performance, outstanding battery life, best app catalog in the biz, and all of the other things that now go with a smartphone like GPS, Outlook email and contacts, good music player, good browser, yada yada), I'd gladly change. It just seems that every major phone out there is missing one or two of these, which makes the iPhone just that much harder going away from.

Different strokes for different folks. I can tell you that Samsung can come out with the best looking screen out there and with a dual core and everything else they are adding into the SGS2, and it still won't change many peoples' minds who enjoy their iPhone. Not until it is running iOS or has some fruit placed on the backpiece.

Some of the first Android phones can not be compared to todays. You need to look at the Samsung Galaxy 2, it outperforms the Apple product in every way and you do not need iTunes to use it!

It is one thing to be a fanboy but you need to look before you leap!

 

[Bernard SG]

Where are you getting those figures from? I've been looking around but I can't find any reasonable estimates of the value, cash reserves, etc of each company. I'm curious to see where yours came from.

http://files.shareholder.com/downlo...131-4ebbabc128fb/AAPL_Q2FY11_10Q_04.21.11.pdf

(see cash and cash equivalents, short and long term marketable securities: total USD 65 b)

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=005930:KS

Market cap: c. 120 trillion KRW or USD 110 b.

 

[Krandor]

When I think of ecosystem, I really think of the Content, Apps and their delivery before I think of Hardware. Of course you also need hardware. Regarding delivery and Samsung I am most disappointed with the TV "Internet and App" offering. I think they could have done a much better job. To me there is no comparison to the AppleTV for delivery. If they want to compete with Apple then they need to start there with a major upgrade. I have 3 Samsung TV's but I haven't used the Internet Stuff since my original review when I got the TVs last year.

While it is often a negative at times too, I still look at iTunes as the thing that creates the Apple ecosystem. I have podcasts for example downloaded to iTunes, I can listen to them on any device (iPod, iPad, AppleTV) and they get marked read in the central iTunes database. I also make a LOT of use of smart playlists that use playcounts and last plated dates and again that central iTunes database is almost required for that if using multiple devices. I hate it at times, but there is no way to do good smart playlist features without a central DB like iTunes. Nobody else has created anything like it... google music looks like it is going to be all "have to upload your music to their servers" which isn't feasible for me. Android appliations that do music syncing all seem to want to tie into iTunes (except for WinAmp, but then you have to use their App on your phone IIRC).

The central DB for podcast, music, smart playlists, playcounts, etc. is just something the other ecosystems to my knowledge don't have and while I look at the SGS2 and love the hardware, the thought of having to use a 3rd party program to them still sync back into iTunes just seems like a hassle and a potential failure point. If I am still going to sync with iTunes would be easier to just stay with iPhone.

I really wish on the Android side there was something to compete with iTunes and let me sync my 4TB of mp3, movies, etc. to my device using smart playlist type features but so far there don't appear to be any.

 

[Themaeds]

The only people worried are the people who buy Samsung products. Cheap crap that has no customer support. How many Samsung Stores have you walked into lately? Sorry, you have to go through K-Mart, or Wal Mart or one of the other box stores when you have problems. I'm sure those geniuses at Wal mart or Best Buy can help you. Samsung, yea, that's quality.



I don't because I don't buy crap.

hahahaha your precious iPhone and iPad are littered with Samsung parts. Your iDevice is Frankenstein

 

[mrochester]

While it is often a negative at times too, I still look at iTunes as the thing that creates the Apple ecosystem. I have podcasts for example downloaded to iTunes, I can listen to them on any device (iPod, iPad, AppleTV) and they get marked read in the central iTunes database. I also make a LOT of use of smart playlists that use playcounts and last plated dates and again that central iTunes database is almost required for that if using multiple devices. I hate it at times, but there is no way to do good smart playlist features without a central DB like iTunes. Nobody else has created anything like it... google music looks like it is going to be all "have to upload your music to their servers" which isn't feasible for me. Android appliations that do music syncing all seem to want to tie into iTunes (except for WinAmp, but then you have to use their App on your phone IIRC).

The central DB for podcast, music, smart playlists, playcounts, etc. is just something the other ecosystems to my knowledge don't have and while I look at the SGS2 and love the hardware, the thought of having to use a 3rd party program to them still sync back into iTunes just seems like a hassle and a potential failure point. If I am still going to sync with iTunes would be easier to just stay with iPhone.

I really wish on the Android side there was something to compete with iTunes and let me sync my 4TB of mp3, movies, etc. to my device using smart playlist type features but so far there don't appear to be any.

I share your sentiments. I listen to a number of podcasts and I absolutely love the way they are kept in sync between my PC, iPhone and iPad so that no matter which one I pick up to listen to, they are all in sync. I really really wish for there to be something similar available for Android because manually keeping podcasts in sync just seems like a hassle to me.

There are a lot of little features, such as the above, that keep me coming back to the iPhone (even though I also own both Android and WP7 devices). Tapping the notification bar to be taken back to the top of the page/screen is another!

 

[patp]

hahahaha your precious iPhone and iPad are littered with Samsung parts. Your iDevice is Frankenstein

i hope you feel better.

this thread is just outright silly.

 

[482214]

Wow... It makes me laugh how angry people get on these threads.

It's just a forum guys

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Some of the first Android phones can not be compared to todays. You need to look at the Samsung Galaxy 2, it outperforms the Apple product in every way and you do not need iTunes to use it!

It is one thing to be a fanboy but you need to look before you leap!

Chill out .... bigsexyy81's post was not bashing Android at all. We get you love your precious SG2, but there's no need to keep reminding us post after post. Practice what you preach before calling others a fanboy.


BTW ..... Desktop integration sucks with the SG2. I'm pretty sure most SG2 users who came from an iPhone aren't happy at all with.

 

[bpaluzzi]

And a lot of cheaper things are made in China. So I guess if Samsung really wanted to get greedy, they could do what Apple and almost every other company does, and take it to China. Don't ya just love how some like to think of iPhone as this high end luxury item? Then you turn it over and it's got the same Made In China stamp as every item in the dollar store.

Clueless post is clueless.

 

[zOdeac]

Personally i have had a Treo 650 then a 700 or 750 cant remember,
Then i got an HTC and it sucked bad always crashing. Then i got a Samsung and the phone got replaced 2 times. Don't remember the name of the Samsung we had i just know the first one never did ring after three days on and the second Samsung they upgraded me to a pull out keyboard version that looked like an iPhone.

When i got this phones i though Sweet this are cool and then i got my hands on a Jail-broken iPhone. You now the phone fills better in my hands and does so much more then any of the other phones.

No i don't have a metal detector i lost that BUT the iPhone has iTunes for podcast, better handling for my music, more apps that are not all a free for all. You know ill stick with the iPhone.

This last year I got a new Asus laptop with i7 with 3D and the works. Then a friend brought over his mac 15in 2011 Mac book pro and asked me to help him with boot-camp.

I was so impressed by the power and battery life just the full expirance i sold my asus and got me a Mac-book Pro 17 2011.

The point i am trying to make is a lot of this company are pushing out new hand sets and laptops this days not really looking or what customers are going to like and apple puts out things that people will want.

I just want my stuff to work so i can troll the sites. So for me Apple has the key here for customers because things work and when they do updates they normally do them right and flawless. Yes like Jobs said MobileMe sucked but a few items bad and really supporting the hardware is where its at.

Oh and all them android devices i still have them and the carriers stopped updating them 8 months after it got released so i wont get newer updates.
my 3gs's and my 4 are getting the iOS5. Hands down ill stay with apple as long as they think of my pocket book when i pay more for there stuff but there hardware lasts longer then others.

must my two cents sorry.

 

[bigsexyy81]

Some of the first Android phones can not be compared to todays. You need to look at the Samsung Galaxy 2, it outperforms the Apple product in every way and you do not need iTunes to use it!

It is one thing to be a fanboy but you need to look before you leap!

I will definitely take a look at it. However...

1. Thunderbolt is hardly one of the first Android phones.
2. Never understood why people complain about using iTunes with the iPhone. I buy all my music and movies on my phone, but I want them on my laptop too. So I connect it and Transfer Purchases, and voila. I can watch it on my laptop and my phone now.

And you don't HAVE to use iTunes unless you need to restore or got a phone replacement.