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Apple's First Foldable iPad Could Face Delays Into 2026
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Of course, but this crowd seems to not be some people but nearly all people: "we" are overwhelmingly against something BEFORE Apple offers one... like this folding concept.
Then, "we" seem to immediately change our minds as soon as Apple offers one... as I expect with this folding concept.
At least in my experience, anything that is an "abomination" that "99% doesn't want" doesn't become a "Shut up and take my money" and "99% DO want" overnight... except in the Appleverse.
I have to wonder why still post "foldables are a solution in search of a problem" anymore. I suppose they are just looking to stir the pot. I will break it down for you one more time:
Problem: Having to use and charge two separate devices (phone and mini tablet) and carry both of them around if you are mobile.
Solution: A book style foldable phone, which is a compact and lightweight device that is a phone and mini tablet in one.
I really don't understand why this is so difficult to comprehend. I also don't see why anyone would care if Apple adds a foldable iPhone to their line up. If they do, I hope it is a book style foldable. And yes, I know foldables aren't for everyone, but hating on something you haven't even owned and experienced is laughable. And please save the "well you're compromising this and that" speech because after owning six foldables, currently the OnePlus Open, I can tell you in my experience the compromise was using an iPhone and an iPad mini separately. And if you want to talk about cost, remember to get as close to the same specs between the three book style foldables in the US and an iPhone/iPad Mini combo, you'd have to drop $2198 (iPhone 15PM 512gb and iPad Mini 256gb with wi-fi and cellular). My OnePlus Open was $1,699, with 512gb storage and remember when it is in tablet mode you have wi-fi and cellular, which is why you'd need a wi-fi and cellular iPad Mini in this scenario.
Problem: Having to use and charge two separate devices (phone and mini tablet) and carry both of them around if you are mobile.
Solution: A book style foldable phone, which is a compact and lightweight device that is a phone and mini tablet in one.
I really don't understand why this is so difficult to comprehend. I also don't see why anyone would care if Apple adds a foldable iPhone to their line up. If they do, I hope it is a book style foldable. And yes, I know foldables aren't for everyone, but hating on something you haven't even owned and experienced is laughable. And please save the "well you're compromising this and that" speech because after owning six foldables, currently the OnePlus Open, I can tell you in my experience the compromise was using an iPhone and an iPad mini separately. And if you want to talk about cost, remember to get as close to the same specs between the three book style foldables in the US and an iPhone/iPad Mini combo, you'd have to drop $2198 (iPhone 15PM 512gb and iPad Mini 256gb with wi-fi and cellular). My OnePlus Open was $1,699, with 512gb storage and remember when it is in tablet mode you have wi-fi and cellular, which is why you'd need a wi-fi and cellular iPad Mini in this scenario.
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Yes, MR users are representative of the Apple user base /sOf course, but this crowd seems to not be some people but nearly all people: "we" are overwhelmingly against something BEFORE Apple offers one... like this folding concept.
Then, "we" seem to immediately change our minds as soon as Apple offers one... as I expect with this folding concept.
At least in my experience, anything that is an "abomination" that "99% doesn't want" doesn't become a "Shut up and take my money" and "99% DO want" overnight... except in the Appleverse.
There are around 1.2 million registered users on MR, there are over 1 billion iOS users out there…
MR users are mostly “geeks” …
Apple knows their users much better than anyone here on MR…
Same
Similarly I never understand why folks talk down to iPhone Mini users with things like "TOO SMALL .. Give me a Pro Max!"
Great! Good for you! Everyone has different preferences
We should all want Apple to offer a diverse lineup that caters to a wide array of choices
Why are folks against this? -- it's totally mystifying to me
I don't understand how anyone can be forgiving of the crease. It starts out as a slight bump, but every single fold I've seen gets progressively worse over time with use. Several people I know have had to send them in to get the screen "protector" replaced.
Don't care what anyone on here says but as someone that just did the switch from iPhone 15Plus and previously owning every 2nd iPhone since the iPhone 3G days, I love my new Fold 6. Never going back to a regular phone.
Because this “problem” you state is not really a problem for a lot of people. If we are leaving home, we know ahead of time whether carrying a device larger than the phone is warranted at all, and it usually isn’t. If I need to do serious work away from home, I’m likely packing a laptop instead of an iPad anyway. While at home, I prefer an iPad for pretty much everything except making a phone call. It’s simply about choosing the right tool for the task at hand. When you try to combine multiple roles in one device, it ceases to really be “the right tool” for specific tasks. Why?
Every solution comprises a set of compromises. The more “roles” you want to address in the solution, the greater the compromises. “Lightweight” likely compromises battery life, and “compact” is limited to two dimensions if you really want a significantly larger screen or simply more screen real estate. You can have “compact” but thicker while folded, or not so compact while folded and thinner, but not both. If you really want a “book style” foldable, you still end up with a smaller screen than most iPads when unfolded unless the folded size is larger than current iPhone Pro Max models, so not really an iPad replacement either unless you are willing to carry even larger, more cumbersome “phones.”
I don’t need to own or experience a foldable to understand that the compromises it represents would make it less useful for many of my uses. It’s the old “jack of all trades, master of none” situation. I’ll take two devices that are really good at their specific roles over one that comes up short for some uses. Expressing opinions along those lines in a tech forum should be expected. “Hate,” as you refer to it, has nothing to do with it.
It doesn't matter if it is not a problem for whatever you consider to be a lot of people, the fact of the matter is foldables are a solution to a problem that millions of people had. Therefore, it is utterly nonsensical to say that foldables are a solution in search of a problem. I mentioned what the compromise was for me in my previous post. For your opinion to be meaningful to me when it comes to tech devices, yes, you have to have owned the device and have experience using it outside of a store.
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Of course it’s entirely up to you to choose how to evaluate opinions. But to claim that I must first buy a product that does not exist in order for you to see any value in my opinion seems a bit silly. Should anyone value your take since you obviously don’t own a foldable iPhone?
I had Fold 4 for a year. UX was great. Why I came back to Apple? Samsung will release public beta just for 10 countries or so. I don't like that bs. Samsung will release some of their apps (Good Lock) just for 10 countries or so. Again I don't like that bs. Samsung Care is geo-locked unlike global Apple Care. I really really hated that bs. That's why I am back with Apple. I would rock Apple foldable for sure.
Foldables are still a gimmick and are not the new standard.
A problem millions had?
The only ones who care about foldables are the ones on sites like these.
The average consumers who brought them didn’t buy them for a problem they needed fixed. They brought it simply because it looked cool.
Even my mother wants a foldable. Not because she really cares about what it can do. She simply liked how cool it looks that her friends phone open up like that.
I'm not talking about a foldable iPhone that doesn't exist, in terms of buying a device and experiencing it first hand. Of course you can't own and experience a device that doesn't exist. I've been talking about buying and experiencing foldables or any other tech device that does exist.
When did I ever say foldables were the new standard? I've never said that. Go on some foldable forums and you'll see that 90% of people who have bought a foldable did so because they can have a regular phone and an mini tablet, to get more screen real estate, in one device.
Lotta haters on foldables in this thread, but I'll be buying one.
I have a one plus open and love it. I also have an iPad Mini 6 and love it. And an iPhone 14 Pro for work. I gotta say the idea of having a foldable iPad Mini but with the 14 Pro screen and features sounds awesome to me and something I would definitely pick up.
I have a one plus open and love it. I also have an iPad Mini 6 and love it. And an iPhone 14 Pro for work. I gotta say the idea of having a foldable iPad Mini but with the 14 Pro screen and features sounds awesome to me and something I would definitely pick up.
Of course, but this crowd seems to not be some people but nearly all people: "we" are overwhelmingly against something BEFORE Apple offers one... like this folding concept.
Then, "we" seem to immediately change our minds as soon as Apple offers one... as I expect with this folding concept.
At least in my experience, anything that is an "abomination" that "99% doesn't want" doesn't become a "Shut up and take my money" and "99% DO want" overnight... except in the Appleverse.
Perhaps your attention is inordinately drawn to those with an opinion with whom you disagree. Anyway, we agree that it is normal for people to change their mind, and thank you for the explanation.
And those aren’t millions. That’s a minority I. The grand scheme of thing.
Using tech fan sites as a measure of popularity and demand is ridiculous
Ok. So, you are interested in opinions about foldables.
But only from people who own(ed) foldables.
But you are in MR forums (an Apple-centric forum) even though Apple does not make a foldable phone or tablet.
And you have no way to know who own(s/ed) a foldable in MR unless the post volunteers that information.
I’m certain forums dedicated to foldable owners exist so it just seems like a lot of unnecessary effort.
Either way, best of luck to you!
If you think the majority of people are dropping nearly $2k on foldable phones just because they think they look cool, I've got a few things I'd like to sell you.
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Ok. So, you are interested in opinions about foldables. But only from people who own(ed) foldables or any other tech device they might be sharing their opinion of. I fixed it for you. There are people on MR that own foldables, and yes, I value their opinion on foldables more than anyone who hasn't ever owned a foldable. That is correct. Anyway, I think we've labored on this topic long enough. Have a good one!
