Apple's First MacBook Pro With Retina Display is Now 'Vintage'

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    On June 11, 2012, at its annual Worldwide Developers Conference, Apple introduced its first MacBook Pro with a Retina display. Impressed by its thinness, the crowd at Moscone West erupted with a huge round of applause.

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    The notebook was also praised in many reviews, which awarded it top marks for its mix of functionality and portability. Marco Arment, a well-known developer, even called it "the best laptop ever made," with a "crowd-pleasing design."

    "Introduced in 2012, less than a year after Steve Jobs died, I see it as the peak of Jobs' vision for the Mac," said Arment, in a blog post last year.


    In addition to being the first MacBook Pro with a Retina display, the 2012 model had a much slimmer design compared to previous models, after Apple removed the built-in Ethernet port and optical disc drive for CDs/DVDs. The external design of the notebook remained largely unchanged through 2015.

    Despite being thinner, the 2012 to 2015 era MacBook Pro had an array of connectivity options, including a pair of Thunderbolt and USB-A ports, an HDMI port, a SD card slot, and a MagSafe power adapter that breaks away safely if tugged.

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    I/O on 2012 MacBook Pro with Retina display

    By comparison, the 2016 and later MacBook Pro has two or four Thunderbolt 3 ports, depending on the model, that can deliver power, USB, DisplayPort, HDMI, and VGA over a single cable. Apple in turn removed dedicated USB-A and HDMI ports, an SD card reader, and MagSafe from the notebook.

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    I/O on 2016-and-later MacBook Pro

    While the latest MacBook Pro lineup hasn't led to any significant declines in Mac sales, which Apple reports on a quarterly basis, a subset of customers continue to favor the older models. In fact, Apple continues to sell one configuration of the 2015 MacBook Pro, priced from $1,999 in the United States.

    For those clinging to a 2012 model, however, there's a bit of bad, but inevitable, news.

    Just over six years after Apple released the Mid 2012 model 15-inch MacBook Pro with Retina display, which is more than a fair amount of time, Apple has officially classified it as "vintage" or "obsolete" depending on the region.

    What this means is that at least five years have passed since the model was last manufactured, meaning that Apple and Apple Authorized Service Providers are no longer obligated to provide hardware service or replacement parts, except in the state of California and Turkey, where required by law.

    Of course, if you own a 2012 MacBook Pro, there is nothing stopping you from following one of iFixit's many do-it-yourself repair guides.

    Apple routinely updates its vintage and obsolete products list with additional devices as they age, so this was to be expected eventually, but it's still somewhat of a sad reminder that the first MacBook Pro with Retina display has nearly reached the end of its life. Anyone still using one is now on their own in terms of hardware.

    Apple's support team should still be able to answer questions about macOS and be able to perform software troubleshooting if needed.

    Apple's website does not list the Late 2012 model 13-inch MacBook Pro with Retina display, released in October 2012, as "vintage" yet. Only the 15-inch model, released in June 2012, carries this distinction.

    Article Link: Apple's First MacBook Pro With Retina Display is Now 'Vintage'
     
  2. BigJohno macrumors 65816

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    my 2013 15" is soon to be vintage. Still the best machine i've ever owned. Pour one out for Aperture....
     
  3. matthew12 macrumors member

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    Looks like my 2013 13" rMPB will be vintage next summer. Come on Apple, and release new MacBooks without the butterfly keyboard.
     
  4. Dobbs2 macrumors 6502

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    And still anything with Thunderbolt is crazy expensive.
     
  5. bladerunner2000 macrumors 68020

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    It's amazing how Apple's laptops keep getting worse.
     
  6. whooleytoo macrumors 604

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    At the current rate, how long before the entire range is 'vintage'? ;)
     
  7. masterleep macrumors newbie

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    I'm using one right now. I'm dubious the latest model would be an improvement. Sad!
     
  8. justperry macrumors G3

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    My 2012 13" MBP without the retina display is also not on the list, I think because it was still available the year(s) after it's creation.
     
  9. Chrjy macrumors 6502a

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    Great machine. I really enjoyed my 15", everything about it just felt right and what a workhorse it was.
     
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    Using the 2015 15” model. I’m willing to overlook the port situation if the new models get reliable keyboards and a cheaper non-Touch Bar option for the 15”. Love the new design otherwise, but not for current pricing.
     
  11. kazmac macrumors 603

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    I came so close to buying one of those several times. I loved the screen and the keyboard felt great too.

    I distinctly remember almost pulling the trigger when I realized I had 10 minutes to get to work and chose work over the rMBP.

    I so hope Apple get over their money driven thinness thing and make something like this -or at the very least- the 2015 rMBP again.
     
  12. Nozuka macrumors 68020

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    Writing this on my now vintage device ;)

    Can't believe it's that old. It still feels as fast as the day i bought it. Probably even faster, because back then there was some scrolling lag the first few months (or longer) ;)

    Still no reason to buy a new one... Never kept any computer this long before.
     
  13. justperry macrumors G3

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    Depends, The current MBP's are way ahead of a Powerbook Pismo, but the Pismo can easily outlive the MBP, I had one and it got over 8 years + in the tropics without issues.
     
  14. Neepman macrumors 6502

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    You have to wonder what is being built into Mojave besides the end of 32 bit support that will gimp out the legions of pre-2014 macbook pros out there that are working professionals "daily drivers".
     
  15. lamunkya macrumors newbie

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    it would appear that discontinuing support for their old products is the only way they know how to get people to purchase the new and "improved" ones.
    unless the strategy backfires and consumers buy elsewhere...
     
  16. TMRJIJ macrumors 68030

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    Fine. I was planning on getting a cheap 2012 but Late 2013 or newer it is.
    Can’t really see anything software wise that would indicate it not getting the next few releases of macOS so nobody freak out.
     
  17. netwalker macrumors regular

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    When I first saw the article without reading the headline I thought that finally a new MBP got announced, but no, my old 2012 model is now officially vintage instead. Served me well but is also falling apart. Desperately waiting for a 2018 model to replace it.
     
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    I am on the 2015 model which bought it last year, with Apple Care. Had the MBP 2017 and it was utter crap, and got the older version instead.

    AppleCare gives me till 2020 to decide whether.
     
  19. maflynn Moderator

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    I'm glad I got the battery replaced with it earlier this year. I was expecting the move. The 2012 rMBP is the best laptop I've ever owned
     
  20. j-a-x macrumors 65816

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    I also miss Aperture dearly. Lightroom
    Sucks and while Photos is ok, it doesn’t really cut it. :/
     
  21. Chrjy macrumors 6502a

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    I'd second that....I definitely think it was the best I've ever owned too and I've had a lot!! Apple was in a great place in those days.
     
  22. Mr. Dee macrumors 68000

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    Question, what does this mean for macOS updates for users who own this model; especially with Mojave coming this fall? Is possible Apple could drop support even though they just applied vintage to it? I am sure 2011 and 2009 MBP's are still able to run the latest macOS even though the machine vintage.

    6 years is a good run though. Gonna try and get as much out of my Early 2015. Thought I was gonna upgrade next year, but honestly, it doesn't make any economic sense for me. So, I will at least wait until the machine is obsolete or dead (unlikely). I have a working 2001 PowerBook G4, so, these things are built to last.
     
  23. TMRJIJ macrumors 68030

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    The MR comments back then seem fairly similar to now. Hmm.... :cool:
     
  24. joneill55 macrumors 6502

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    Apple's execution of their computer business plan has been seriously flawed since the growth of the iPhone. They are now a phone company.

    I love their computers but even as a diehard fan, the MacBook Pro has gotten worse the last 3 releases. As a shareholder, I struggle with all the poor execution and negative inertia yet my shares increase in value. I'm conflicted!

    I was "forced" to buy an updated MacBook Air last month as a stop gap measure when my out of AppleCare Pro died. Not holding my breath for a quad-core release with the flutter-F*@K keyboard issues they are experience and will wait for a redesign or it's hello....... HP or Dell!
     
  25. Chrjy macrumors 6502a

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    Looking at your signature, I personally feel you don't have enough Apple products....I suggest you buy something else! ;)
     

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