I wouldn't say "amazing." They made costly mistakes with the keyboards on the MacBooks and a big miss with the trashcan Mac Pro. All companies drop the ball from time to time. Now they're making amends. It sucks, but what can you do?
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Apple's First MacBook Pro With Retina Display is Now 'Vintage'
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Users who own this model would likely have two more years of major macOS updates. 2009-2011 MBPs just got the axe with Mojave.
It's crazy how Apple calls "vintage" a computer that has almost the same configuration as the current model. They have upgraded really slow the MacBook Pro line.. it's really disappointing! I was hoping at least a new one at WWDC with wireless iPhone and Apple Watch dock, and 32GB RAM.. I still can't believe they didn't do so!.. DISAPPOINTING!
Perhaps, but I'm very content to keep running El Cap on this. I'm not looking to push the envelope.
Was he already of the same opinion in 2012 when it was released?
For me the Pismo was the best they ever made.
Somehow I don't believe you will....
Yes LR blows hard. Photos feels like a toy. Been using Capture One recently.
No, vintage is a label that only applies to the hardware side (ie, they don't guarantee the availability of parts after that anymore and might under some circumstance even refuse to repair it).
Don't want dongles. Don't want touch bar. Don't want butterfly keyboard.
It's the last mac I have bought and quite likely the last I will buy.
And yet a lot of people are clinging onto there 2015 and prior MacBook Pro models due to the decline in features and functionality with the newer models, as well as dongle hell!
Just like those buying the old cheese grater Mac Pro over the trash can model.
Just like those buying the old cheese grater Mac Pro over the trash can model.
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I think most comments were turned off by the cost and non-replaceable battery or RAM, but reading the comments on how much people on here love these circa 2012 machines five years later gives context on how much the cost really doesn't matter. Pay the extra for a Mac, you'll love it for years.The MR comments back then seem fairly similar to now. Hmm....
I did the exact same thing! Bought a 2017 MBA from Best Buy at $650 as a bridge Mac until they sort out the issues for the next MBP. That said - if you're enticed by HP or Dell, go for it. There's nothing wrong with looking for other options. Personally, I find Windows 10 uninspiring and joyless but that might not matter to you.
But what irks me more about these "Vintage" announcements are statements like the one above "has nearly reached the end of its life" End of life? Really? This 2012 mac outperforms some 2014 and 2015 macs, there is PLENTY of life left. Sure hardware repairs at Apple store are gone, so what? If a 2012 MBP dies, it's cheaper getting another one off eBay than paying Apple's exorbitant service fees.
And the truth is users are constantly "on their own" when it comes to hardware repairs. Any time Applecare expires, a person is on their own. Many times a $550 quote from Apple store means a user is better off buying a new Mac than giving that money to Apple.
Perhaps I shouldn't admit this, but I still use Aperture. I haven't found another good pro-level editor that "gets out of my way" and lets me define my workflow, like Aperture does...
I'm thinking about trying Luminar, though - I've heard some good things about it.
I have had a 2012 and then a 2015 at home and my work provides a 2017.
You'll have to pry the 2015 from my hot sweaty typing hands. I keep almost buying a max spec'd one from apple.com. I can't deal with the keyboard, port configuration and lack of mag safe on the newer model.
Anyone know the speed dif. between a 2015 and 2017? I don't know about the different later generation i7s off the top of my head.
My parents still have a 2012, it doesn't feel 6 years old in daily use.
You'll have to pry the 2015 from my hot sweaty typing hands. I keep almost buying a max spec'd one from apple.com. I can't deal with the keyboard, port configuration and lack of mag safe on the newer model.
Anyone know the speed dif. between a 2015 and 2017? I don't know about the different later generation i7s off the top of my head.
My parents still have a 2012, it doesn't feel 6 years old in daily use.
So does this mean 2013 rmbp owners should get a battery replacement this year?
For me the Pismo was the best they ever made
Somehow I don't believe you will....
Yea, well I dual boot my MacBook. Run Windows 10 for the "corp" on 1/2 drive & (mostly excel and 1 proprietary software) Mac side for SalesF, Slack & PP sales presentation. Office 365 has helped this set up on Mac side without question. Love to see peoples expression with Windows desktop on the Pro.....priceless.
I have team members running Dell 13" & HP Expire machines and they are very nice machines.
Widows 10 works well as any edition of Windows I've run in Bootcamp. It has issues for sure,(battery sucker) but much better than the last release.(Win-blows 8)
Hopefully Apple will get it together.
I have a 2015 iMac which is really good, and I'm waiting to see what Apple does for the 2018 model, specifically the keyboard. I do really enjoy the macOS platform so I'm not totally ready to leave yet but I'm not willing to spend almost 3k on a laptop that has a defective keyboard.
The only issue with 2012 era laptops is that the GPU can't keep up, otherwise (If you upgrade to an SSD and RAM) it's a very capable machine.
Comparing 15” MacBook Pro with the extremely portable MacBook Retina only proves how great the newer ones are. I’m actually quite surprised.But what irks me more about these "Vintage" announcements are statements like the one above "has nearly reached the end of its life" End of life? Really? This 2012 mac outperforms some 2014 and 2015 macs, there is PLENTY of life left. Sure hardware repairs at Apple store are gone, so what? If a 2012 MBP dies, it's cheaper getting another one off eBay than paying Apple's exorbitant service fees.
And the truth is users are constantly "on their own" when it comes to hardware repairs. Any time Applecare expires, a person is on their own. Many times a $550 quote from Apple store means a user is better off buying a new Mac than giving that money to Apple.
Maybe your comment backfire on me (and possibly, many others). Also, comparing advantages on the Intel chipsets over the years without considering specific things (such as use hit faster RAM and SSDs) is not fair and doesn’t give a big picture of real performance.
Another mind boggling example, a 2017 mac only slightly faster than a 2012 mac. Perhaps if Apple loves the environment so much they should extend hardware support considering these machines keep screaming performance-wise and are nowhere near end of life? Nevermind, forced obsolescence is more profitable.
