Apple's Foldable iPhone Rumored to Feature Unrivaled Battery Life

[The Game 161]

and your assumption that it will be different because of the location isn't bad? ok, whatever ...

Yes as location is essential for a good and working fingerprint scanners. Awkwardness plays a massive role in consistency

 

[jz0309]

Yes as location is essential for a good and working fingerprint scanners. Awkwardness plays a massive role in consistency

I would have to pickup that phone with touchid (top, side or whatever) in a particular way to unlock it right away, that is awkward enough as I certainly don't have to have my hands/fingers on certain places on a phone with faceid.
Sometimes I pick up my phone with my left hand, sometimes with the right hand, sometimes its face up, sometimes face down.
But as I said, whatever ...

 

[TracerAnalog]

There’s a lot more screen to power off that 5500 mAh battery. Just because the battery size is the largest doesn’t mean actual usage will see any improvement. Likely just enough capacity to continue the “all day battery life” claim they routinely use.

Indeed. Bigger battery does not automatically mean more screen time. I'm hoping against hope for a new type of battery (Silicon? Solid State?), but I'm expecting just good ol' Lithium Ion.

If the fold has the same battery life as the current Pro Max phone, I'll be happy.

 

[frownface]

*unrivalled by other foldables(**)

**foldables made by samsung only

 

[darngooddesign]

Difference is Touch ID on iPads are at the top. It will be at the side here and should be more dependable than any current iPad Touch ID

Its not own top if you pick it up in landscape, which is natural for people who use their iPad mini in landscape, so saying that people have no experience with the kind of ToucID button the iPhoneBook will have is not necessarily true. That being said I do think it will be easy to get accustomed with picking it up with a finger or thumb on the power button.

My watch unlocks my phone so that kind of authentication is irrelevant to me, but other things like authenticating passwords and purchases are a different matter.

As for being on a desk. You still need to be on top of it for it to work. It don’t just work on a desk or sofa without you holding it up. That’s a major flaw

No I dont. I just put the bottom of my 15P around 14" in front of me on my desk, tilted it up like 15 degrees and. it unlocked by just glancing at it.

 

[darngooddesign]

I would have to pickup that phone with touchid (top, side or whatever) in a particular way to unlock it right away, that is awkward enough as I certainly don't have to have my hands/fingers on certain places on a phone with faceid.
Sometimes I pick up my phone with my left hand, sometimes with the right hand, sometimes its face up, sometimes face down.
But as I said, whatever ...

That's why you would register more than one finger. On my 9th gen homebutton iPad, I registered both thumbs so it didn't matter which way I picked it up.

 

[Neodym]

"rumored to feature a 7.8-inch crease-free inner display"

Until now I thought it would be "mostly crease-free" or something along those lines. Now it is rumored to be really crease-free? Seems I missed some rumor updates in between ...

 

[BillyJoeJimBob]

Rather than developing a "foldable" phone, time and effort would be better spent developing better battery life, durability, and submersibility. They should also get back to work on a useful version the Apple Configurator.

 

[code-m]

If Apple ever incorporates both Face ID and Touch ID into one device, my guess is it won't be before flat metalenses are advanced enough that they can eliminate the standard lenses and prisms in the Face ID module, which make up the bulk of its thickness.

Tim C did mention that we see something that we have not seen before during a post earnings call recently so who knows, maybe that also reflects on the increased cost.

 

[Farquar]

Your whole post is on THEORY!

Wrong.

They flawlessly on all Foldables and will be no different on this foldable iPhone

Wrong.

Yes Face ID works by just swiping up

Wrong. It has nothing to do with swiping up.

You shouldn’t need to pick your phone up for every task

So holding your phone in order to use it is now too much to ask. Wow.

It’s why fingerprint scanners is generally what people prefer

Wrong.

but iPhone users are programmed now to think Face ID is god because Apple said this is all you can use.

When I got to this sentence I realize I just completely wasted my time engaging you further.

 

[Farquar]

Rather than developing a "foldable" phone, time and effort would be better spent developing better battery life, durability, and submersibility. They should also get back to work on a useful version the Apple Configurator.

I don't know...battery life is pretty impressive, and is limited by physical size. Only a lower power display technology is going to have a dramatic improvement to battery. Durability though is a joke, for a handheld product. It is clear that these are design to look good in marketing photos, but be used in case.

 

[SFjohn]

Bigger battery or not it will still develop a crease… 😮‍💨

 

[riverguide]

Count me into the minority of people to prefer Touch ID as apposed to Face ID. I actually think it is more convenient and more reliable over Face ID.

Add me to the count.
I live with both.
I love Touch ID, I loathe Face ID.
I long to replace my XR.
I lust for the iPhone Fold.

I like an iPhone Mini form with a screen bigger than a Max that fits into my pocket.
I”m looking forward to the iPhad release day.
I’m laying away the $,$$$ now.
I’m lauding Apple (for once)

 

[riverguide]

Sorry I really don't even know how to respond to that. I've been using Face ID every day for 9 years, and also have an iPad Air sitting here that has Side Button Touch ID.

There is no comparison between the two.

I like the last sentence of your comment because it tells the truth for me too. Except, since I got my XR, there is no comparison: I have preferred Touch ID, on iPad and Mac.

 

[jz0309]

That's why you would register more than one finger. On my 9th gen homebutton iPad, I registered both thumbs so it didn't matter which way I picked it up.

I had to register the same funger twice on my iPad Air and it is still not reliable...
As I said in the other post, there are many different ways to pick up the phone and with FaceID it pretty much doesn't matter which way you choose, with TouchID, very different story.
That (no FaceID) is simply a dealbreaker for me, YMMV

 

[Abydos]

still hoping for an RTG for long battery life , none of the bother of recharging - refueling should not be an issue the phone will long be obsolete when that requirement occurs bit of a disposal problem though

 

[TVreporter]

A bigger battery and a bigger price … we think you’re going to love it!

 

[chelsel]

Likely perfected the silver battery technology (to replace LiIon) and part of the reason the price of silver has exploded for the first time in 40 years.

 

[segfaultdotorg]

...according to a known leaker.

Or someone using the iLeak Pro app.

 

[segfaultdotorg]

A bigger battery and a bigger price … we think you’re going to love it!

Where have I heard that before?

 

[MichaelAdam]

This Fold along the MacBook Pro touch screen are such exciting news BUT without a pencil I don’t see the point and so far no rumors no evidence of it

 

[Chazak]

Awful take, those same companies had no such issues when all iPhones used Touch ID. Banks? Works well with Touch ID and all fingerprint scanners. Financial companies? Again same Touch ID works just fine with all these brands

Security wise Face ID or Touch ID there is little difference.

It’s not about getting off the sofa. Fingerprint scanners are simply more versatile than what Face ID offers

I don’t care what I use Face ID or Touch ID not one isn’t any better than the other

"Awful take".? Don't think so my friend. The reasons are plain and easily found with a few clicks ...

Face ID is significantly more secure than Touch ID. While both use your body’s unique patterns to unlock your device, the mathematical probability of a "false positive" (the chance of a random stranger being able to unlock your device) is vastly different.

Security by the Numbers​

Apple provides specific statistics on the "False Acceptance Rate" (FAR) for both technologies:

Feature	False Acceptance Rate	Probability of Error
Touch ID	1 in 50,000	0.002%
Face ID	1 in 1,000,000	0.0001%

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Face ID is 20 times more secure because it captures much more data. While Touch ID scans a 2D image of your fingerprint ridges, Face ID uses a "TrueDepth" camera system to project and analyze over 30,000 invisible dots, creating a detailed 3D map of your face.

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Why does Touch ID sometimes require 2FA?​

If you’ve noticed that some websites or apps (like banking or sensitive work portals) ask for a Two-Factor Authentication (2FA) code when you use Touch ID but let you right through with Face ID, it usually comes down to Platform Trust Levels.

1. Lower Error Margin: Because Face ID has that 1-in-a-million security rating, many security developers treat it as a "Stronger" factor of authentication. Touch ID’s 1-in-50,000 rating is still high, but for high-stakes transactions, developers may decide it doesn't meet their "single-factor" threshold.
2. Hardware Age: Most devices with Touch ID are older. These older devices often lack the latest "Secure Enclave" (the isolated chip that handles biometrics) or the modern WebAuthn protocols that newer Face ID-enabled iPhones and iPads use.
3. Liveness Detection: Face ID naturally checks for "liveness"—ensuring you are a real, breathing person looking at the phone. While Touch ID has some sweat-pore detection, it is historically easier to "spoof" with a high-quality physical mold of a fingerprint than it is to trick Face ID with a 3D mask.

Unless you have an identical twin

 

[leonremi]

Likely perfected the silver battery technology (to replace LiIon) and part of the reason the price of silver has exploded for the first time in 40 years.

silver is down 20% since this weekend by the way.
It has nothing to do with real world use of silver, and everything to do with the orange clown.

 

[Adam-Jobs]

Playing catchup with the Chinese brands.

 

[nottorp]

10% extra is "unrivaled"?

Change the title to a more realistic "apple's foldable could have 10% larger battery than the pro max". Would it even be worth posting as a news item them?