Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Apple Music fits my needs very well. If I hear music I like - I add it to a playlist. I listen to the album and if I like it I add it to my music. Between work and evenings I use it for hours a day. Beats wasn't for me,
Same for me. I don't really get all of the whining about it that I see on the forums. Just about any song I want from anywhere, I can have it instantly added to my library on all of my devices. Don't even have to worry about downloading third party apps to each device since it's built into iOS and OSX.
 
I found myself this answer: it's not their job. I mean, if it comes to create a new market almost from zero, they're very good at it. I.e. phones, players, tablets, iTunes sales etc. When they willingly play the first run.
When they're passively forced to do some business because they have to limit competitors or because a given service is obviously needed and Apple as a giant moloch of this days can't just ignore it, then they have problems.
I wish my english would be better to explain this

Thanks for the thoughtful reply. Apple entered each of those markets after others, but I think I know what you're saying. Generally, Apple enters an existing market where the competition's products are cumbersome to use. This equals an opportunity to refine/redesign the life back into a product, making it easier and more enjoyable to use and attracting new buyers into the market. (I had to use a friend's old pre-iPhone phone just the other day, and oh my word, I'd forgotten just how terrible and unintuitive those UIs were!) Streaming music was already rolling along nicely, and perhaps they didn't have so much room to innovate/differentiate.

But Apple also has a long history of botching online services: eWorld, iTools, .Mac, MobileMe… not to mention media streaming problems with keynotes, etc. (I left iCloud out of the list intentionally, because I don't find it to be as bad as many people make out.)
 
The problem with Beats headphones are that they're overpriced, I think most people can agree that they have good sound quality but they're not worth the price.

Still I don't think it was worth paying $3 billion for Beats and obviously it was more because of the streaming service and executives with inside connections to the music biz (Dre and Iovine). Still, the only reason this acquisition happened is because, unlike Steve Jobs, Tim Cook doesn't really get music the same way he did so he essentially hired people to fill that void.

That is my main problem with Cook, since he doesn't have nearly the level of vision and involvement that Jobs had with the products and services being developed under him, he just sticks to being the average CEO and expects everyone to know what they are doing and most likely provides no input and just says yes to whatever ideas are pitched to him.

This is basically how I view Tim Cook when being pitched with the iPad Pro/Apple Pencil, iOS 7 redesign, Apple Watch, etc:
f809070515b2489cf4297f81daf267e9.jpg

I agree with all that you said.
 
  • Like
Reactions: BillyMatt87
Bose products have amazing sound quality, even better than Beats. Pretty much everyone thinks so. What planet are you from?

Just because it's not made/owned by Apple doesn't automatically make it crap...

I have bought Bose products in the past, and own one now (gift). It is overpriced crap. Pretty much anyone who knows audio knows that. Not saying Beats is any good, either. But Bose is worse, because they charge a very, very unwarranted premium price for a product that is decidedly not premium.
 
I've always been a strong supporter of Apple products and REALLY wanted to like Apple Music but I think everyone can agree that it is just NOT a polished product. There hasn't even been a much needed update in months... Using it with your own music results in a mess (bad album artwork, some songs not syncing, clean versions being matched). Just a big 'ol mess!

Cancelled my membership and am going to stick with my own music and download a song from iTunes I like here and there. Much easier and I don't have to worry about an unorganized, chaotic music library.

Well that's why Apple gives you choice and doesn't force anyone to buy into the Music sub. They know subbing music isn't for everyone so for the rest you can buy your music.
 
Is anyone else getting beats music for free? I cancelled it off my att account and wife and I have had free beats since the free trial ended after its release. My biggest gripe is that is going away!

I tried apple music for 3 months and can't get myself to like it :(
 
I just love how some people here are saying Apple should just close down Music just after a few short months it's been out. Funny how I candidly remember people here on MR saying Microsoft should be given the benefit of the doubt when that crappy Surface machine was released.

Well after 3 generations it's "OKAY" it's not the best, and it's still not the #1 selling tablet on the market but at least people gave it a chance. Too much hate on Apple here. Let me check the name of this website again because I thought I was on a site that celebrates Apple, not wants desperately for their new projects to get scrapped without giving them a chance. :rolleyes:
 
I just love how some people here are saying Apple should just close down Music just after a few short months it's been out. Funny how I candidly remember people here on MR saying Microsoft should be given the benefit of the doubt when that crappy Surface machine was released.

Well after 3 generations it's "OKAY" it's not the best, and it's still not the #1 selling tablet on the market but at least people gave it a chance. Too much hate on Apple here. Let me check the name of this website again because I thought I was on a site that celebrates Apple, not wants desperately for their new projects to get scrapped without giving them a chance. :rolleyes:
I don't think apple should close down Apple Music. However I do think that Apple does have some work to do if they want to make it a great service. Even after all these years the iPhone is still not the "perfect" device..yet that doesn't stop Apple from trying and tweaking.
 
  • Like
Reactions: jase1125
Bose? Your credibility just exited the building.

I thought the same thing. Bose is not the crap some people make it out to be, just like Beats headphones. However if you're trying to play audiophile, stick to the script.

I find the whole lot of people replying on this thread are out to lunch. I've had Apple Music since launch and it has been flawless and it EASY to use and is the best thing to come around for music because UNLIKE Spotify, I can't listen to the world's music catalogue while also listening to my OWN music collection in the same app.

Many of you sound like a bunch of 13 year olds trying to be "cool" to diss Apple Music. I'm sorry but it is a quality service and while no, it is not perfect, it is ahead of Rdio or Spotify in use for those who want every song on offer and their own collection intertwined.

This -

Same for me. I don't really get all of the whining about it that I see on the forums. Just about any song I want from anywhere, I can have it instantly added to my library on all of my devices. Don't even have to worry about downloading third party apps to each device since it's built into iOS and OSX.
 
Beat THAT.


Taking a trending trending discussion, parroting it and hoping for up-votes? :D

It could be worse. It could be 'I own [insert product referred to in article as having potential defects] and I've had no problems' or 'Samesung' or any absurd defense of an about face
 
I don't think apple should close down Apple Music. However I do think that Apple does have some work to do if they want to make it a great service. Even after all these years the iPhone is still not the "perfect" device..yet that doesn't stop Apple from trying and tweaking.
I think Apple should just focus on making great music players (both hardware and software-wise) and not obsess over the streaming service competition. Apple doesn't have the best track record when it comes to online services but they did have a great track record with music players so honestly, they should stop trying to copy everyone else in the streaming department and just focus on what they do best!
 
  • Like
Reactions: jase1125
Personally I think Apple was generous keeping Beats Music alive this long. They could have shut it down earlier. I suspect it was due to Apple Music clients for Android and Apple TV not being ready.

I tried Beats Music after Apple purchased it, just to see what the fuss was about, and while it had some interesting ideas, like The Sentence and curated playlists, I was left underwhelmed and didn't renew past the 14 day free trial. Aside from giving Jazz/Classical second billing, there was no way to just have a station/genre play all day while I worked. It was entirely playlist-oriented.

Apple Music is much more impressive to me than Beats Music was. There are more playlists to choose from, and the iTunes Radio stations were greatly expanded in depth and scope. Beats 1 is interesting now and then, but most of the time when I tune in it's just too much noise for me. The Jazz stations need more sub-genres, such as Evening Jazz for a more mellow sound. Too bad Apple Music doesn't more emphasize creating your own stations like other services. Even iTunes Radio before Apple Music had that.
 
Bose products have amazing sound quality, even better than Beats. Pretty much everyone thinks so. What planet are you from?

Just because it's not made/owned by Apple doesn't automatically make it crap...
It has nothing to do with Apple. Bose makes equally crappy speakers like beats and charges high price. They are the only company that I know off who uses paper cones as part of their speaker and charge huge amount of money. Any audiophile who thinks Bose speakers sounds better is kind of not an audiophile. Now I am not saying all Bose speakers are bad. The older large Bose speakers are good that does not paper cone drivers. No paper cone drivers can reproduce good music. You can do a search yourself.
 
Any audiophile who thinks Bose speakers sounds better is kind of not an audiophile. Now I am not saying all Bose speakers are bad. The older large Bose speakers are good that does not paper cone drivers. No paper cone drivers can reproduce good music. You can do a search yourself.

I have a friend who designs speakers and amplifiers professionally (both tube and solid-state). He prefers the sound of quality paper drivers, ideally matched with well designed tube amps. I remember him telling me that the industry shifted to polymer drivers because a) they are cheaper, b) have wider environmental performance (i.e. humidity), and c) "new space-age technology" is always easier to up-sell to the customer. Now, my friend had unkind words to say of many things "audiophile" so perhaps he isn't of that ilk.

I say if you enjoy what you're listening to, then it works!
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.