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Apple's Headset Will Reportedly Let Customers Create AR Apps via Siri


Good joke, is Apple testing out their comedy writer for a new AppleTV show?

--"Hey Siri, give me directions home"


-- Would you like to search the web for "give me directions home"

I don't even remember the last time Siri has worked properly except for setting countdown timers.
One of the best ones is "Hey, Siri watch Moana on Disney+" "Living Room or Bedroom" "Living Room" "Which service do you want to watch it on" I told you already, and if you are the LR HP, of course I want to watch it in the LR!
 
Yes, maybe not VR but AR, it might take a while but AR is supposed to replace the iPhone. We can laugh at it now but just look at the first computers that took up a whole room and how far we have come. Just look at the first PC that only had 16K on memory and a 12" monochrome monitor.


AR is already ubiquitous in every day life, every new car uses AR for cameras and on windshields for heads up displays.

if the rumors are true, we know this device won't do much outside the house as it has a rumored couple hours of battery life that you need to wear as a Fanny Pack. AR interaction with iphones is out there and people have shown very little interest for it. sticking the tech to people's faces won't make much of a difference imo.

there is already a lot of stuff happening in this area with a very limited adoption rate. then there is the content creation for it - this arena is almost completely on PC. even if they partner with unity for content creation, the unity community is very much anti apple and unity libraries for apple platforms rely on mono and other windows frameworks. i think it's a hard sell for content creators.
 
I will never get used to Siri, she is dumb as potato, can’t understand multiple languages on the fly, and keeps searching the web.
The sad part of this, she is tied to AppleMaps and also reads German, Italian, French, Spanish road names in English, they sound totally weird, makes Apple Maps obsolete.

Siri is just one more reason to not buy Apple Goggles.
 
ChatGPT already writes Swift and SwiftUI code!



Badly. Well, not badly but it needs a lot of hand holding. If you don’t know how Swift or any language you won’t be able to guide it and check what it is doing wrong.

I tried using ChatGPT to build the basic template of a messaging app and for the super basic 100ish line template it did OK, but when I started to ask it to add small features it would start to break and add bugs. It then had trouble fixing the bugs and replaced them with new bugs. It was also trying to use Python properties in the middle of Swift code. When I pointed out the error it apologized and replaced the Python with yet another Python property.

It’s a natural language model so it’s not suitable for physics, math or coding because those were not the intended purpose. It attempts those because it has scraped a lot of web data, but it fails in many places.

If machine learning is used to help developers it would need to use several models side by side, one for language, one for number crunching, one for coding, etc.
 
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do you honestly think apple's VR is gonna be the same leap from current sets like the smatphones were from the razor? do you also think the use case is comparable when everyone in the world used phones prior to the iphone while very few people use vr?

Nobody truly believes that. Well, maybe Mark Zuckerberg thinks we will become digital cyberpeople because his future depends on it and it is a motherload of user data he can sell. The first dictatorship to force it on their population will have full control of their people.
 
Just tried and Siri being Siri. 😦

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do you honestly think apple's VR is gonna be the same leap from current sets like the smatphones were from the razor? do you also think the use case is comparable when everyone in the world used phones prior to the iphone while very few people use vr?

If Apple can solve my biggest VR complaints they will justify a 3k price tag. I doubt they can. Make that headset comfortable enough to wear for 3 hours and include super high resolution panels. If I’m watching a movie it should like sharp enough for me to believe I’m watching a Blue Ray movie.

I saw a 4K rip of Star Wars on a VIVE PRO. Imagine watching a movie on a gigantic screen, but being stuck at VHS quality resolution.
 
Badly. Well, not badly but it needs a lot of hand holding. If you don’t know how Swift or any language you won’t be able to guide it and check what it is doing wrong.

I tried using ChatGPT to build the basic template of a messaging app and for the super basic 100ish line template it did OK, but when I started to ask it to add small features it would start to break and add bugs. It then had trouble fixing the bugs and replaced them with new bugs. It was also trying to use Python properties in the middle of Swift code. When I pointed out the error it apologized and replaced the Python with yet another Python property.

It’s a natural language model so it’s not suitable for physics, math or coding because those were not the intended purpose. It attempts those because it has scraped a lot of web data, but it fails in many places.

If machine learning is used to help developers it would need to use several models side by side, one for language, one for number crunching, one for coding, etc.

The crazy thing is that these AI models are eventually going to get it right!

I tried using ChatGPT to write Apple RealityKit code believe it or not and it got there about 30% to 40%. Since RealityKit is not that popular it started adding in SceneKit code. And it had major concepts wrong like integrating the ARView with SwiftUI. The fun part is asking it to fix the bugs and telling it that it got RealityKit mixed up with SceneKit code. It apologized and started to spit back more code. I know that ChatGPT was not really trained to write RealityKit code but I was surprised at how far it got!
 
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AR is already ubiquitous in every day life, every new car uses AR for cameras and on windshields for heads up displays.

if the rumors are true, we know this device won't do much outside the house as it has a rumored couple hours of battery life that you need to wear as a Fanny Pack. AR interaction with iphones is out there and people have shown very little interest for it. sticking the tech to people's faces won't make much of a difference imo.

there is already a lot of stuff happening in this area with a very limited adoption rate. then there is the content creation for it - this arena is almost completely on PC. even if they partner with unity for content creation, the unity community is very much anti apple and unity libraries for apple platforms rely on mono and other windows frameworks. i think it's a hard sell for content creators.

Unity actually had many sessions at Apple's last WWDC. But you are right, I just cannot stomach the C# language. I think Unity had a strong presence at Apple's WWDC because Unreal Engine's Tim Sweeney was suing Apple over App Store revenue.
 
AR interaction with iphones is out there and people have shown very little interest for it. sticking the tech to people's faces won't make much of a difference imo.
I've spent only a couple hours playing with phone/tablet AR, because while it's interesting from a technological perspective, I couldn't find a use. I've spent over a thousand hours with VR. The form factor makes all the difference in the usefulness of the technology. (and when I say useful, I also mean useful for entertainment)
That's not to say that everybody will be interested in face-mounted AR/VR, but you can't really judge its value by looking at phone/tablet AR.
 
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Not quite the same... but if Siri can code, can top-hit songwriting be any more difficult?* ;)

*Perhaps that's a good question for Siri too?
You can write hits all day long, that's the easy part. Getting a pretty celebrity to sell them to the kids is the tricky bit.

Perhaps we can just feed Siri and ChatGPT into each other and feed that into AIVA and feed that score into MuseNET, then layer both over the top of each other with one reversed. Then again, pop music still hasn't really caught up to where Thelonius Monk & Syd Barrett were at half a century ago, so this may be a bridge too far yet.
 
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The crazy thing is that these AI models are eventually going to get it right!

That’s not the way machine/deep learning algorithms work. They reach the point of maximum ability and efficiency and the rest is out of bounds. They face the same problem all software faces, never ending series of bugs that need to be fixed all the time.

They are completely dependent on the engineers and developers along with the training data fed to them. All of this is a flawed, difficult and imperfect process and cannot be made perfect.
 
What in the ChatGPT? Sounds cool but I’m gonna go out on a limb and claim, Siri will never be able to pull it off. Looking at the speed of improvements since the launch of Siri, realistically it will take at least 200 more years, which is not gonna happen.
Yea it would only make sense it Siri at the same time would make a chatgpt like jump in capability- which is bound to happen in the midterm anyways, right? I mean they can not seriously keep this stupid piece of s*** around much longer when we now see what’s possible… I’m sure apple is working on something similar for a while already.. maybe they will surprise us (though I won’t get my hopes up too high for now.)
 
Yea it would only make sense it Siri at the same time would make a chatgpt like jump in capability- which is bound to happen in the midterm anyways, right? I mean they can not seriously keep this stupid piece of s*** around much longer when we now see what’s possible… I’m sure apple is working on something similar for a while already.. maybe they will surprise us (though I won’t get my hopes up too high for now.)
Yeah if I had to guess I’d bet Siri will take your suggestion and just enter it in ChatGPT itself and forward you the result. …maybe CGPT will actually make sense of the words you said and produce something meaningful.
 
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Oh god, this won't go well. Siri is horrible at just being a voice assistant, always thinking I am talking to her let alone designing a VR app! Shut up already Siri, I wasn't talking to you!
 
I am really looking forward to this. I can think of several applications I might design as a result. I am a constant user of Siri and find it very very useful. This is indeed exciting.


I agree. There are loads of potential AR app possibilities for both personal and commercial use.

As an aside, it's a shame many here seem to refuse to take even 15 minutes and learn a little about AR and its potential, and instead resort to posting inane nonsense.
 
I agree. There are loads of potential AR app possibilities for both personal and commercial use.

As an aside, it's a shame many here seem to refuse to take even 15 minutes and learn a little about AR and its potential, and instead resort to posting inane nonsense.

I read every discussion and I can see that the people you are talking about have read a lot. Being a fan doesn’t mean you need to mock people who aren’t.

’Nobody understands this cult because they aren’t enlightened like us believers’ has never been a good charge.
 
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AR is already ubiquitous in every day life, every new car uses AR for cameras and on windshields for heads up displays.

if the rumors are true, we know this device won't do much outside the house as it has a rumored couple hours of battery life that you need to wear as a Fanny Pack. AR interaction with iphones is out there and people have shown very little interest for it. sticking the tech to people's faces won't make much of a difference imo.

there is already a lot of stuff happening in this area with a very limited adoption rate. then there is the content creation for it - this arena is almost completely on PC. even if they partner with unity for content creation, the unity community is very much anti apple and unity libraries for apple platforms rely on mono and other windows frameworks. i think it's a hard sell for content creators.
On the contrary- sticking it to peoples faces is exactly the right way forwards for the use case of AR. It just needs to be seamless and elegant, unlike any such usage with a smartphone.
 
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