Apple's Headset Will Reportedly Let Customers Create AR Apps via Siri

[bpeeps]

The problem is Siri doesn't really like to listen to my commands. Apple really needs to work on fixing and improving Siri first. Will be seeing this error message alot.

This could be a massive improvement of Siri alongside this feature.

 

[citysnaps]

I read every discussion and I can see that the people you are talking about have read a lot. Being a fan doesn’t mean you need to mock people who aren’t.

’Nobody understands this cult because they aren’t enlightened like us believers’ has never been a good charge.

Not mocking anyone. There are lots of people here who reflexively claim there are no uses for AR. Over and over.

There's loads of information about AR, how it's used, etc. In the past I've listed a dozen applications. From simple architectural/interior design/landscape applications to complex cardio-thoracic surgery. Stanford University has an AR/VR laboratory that Apple is collaborating with. SIGGRAPH's last conference revealed devices and applications.

 

[NEPOBABY]

Not mocking anyone. There are lots of people here who reflexively claim there are no uses for AR. Over and over.

There's loads of information about AR, how it's used, etc. In the past I've listed a dozen applications. From simple architectural/interior design/landscape applications to complex cardio-thoracic surgery. Stanford University has an AR/VR laboratory that Apple is collaborating with. SIGGRAPH's last conference revealed devices and applications.

You’re saying stuff everyone knows. People on tech forums do read tech articles and tech news. Just because they are skeptical about how practical or impractical wearing a headset will be doesn’t make them clueless. I read the debates you had with some of them and they had more experience with these gadgets than yourself. Some of the VR fans were caught lying about how they are developers and architects so nobody should dispute their opinions. That was a low point for them.

Here is an AR glasses/headset which is lighter than most. It has the kind of smartphone based interface that are described in new rumors.

Same complaints about battery life (this one needs to be wired to a phone), eye strain and headaches.

Nreal Light AR Smart Glasses Review: Close, But Not Quite There Yet

Great as a tech demo, but compelling apps are lacking

www.tomshardware.com

While I enjoyed the experience, I will say, that playing this game for just a few minutes resulted in some mild eyestrain and a light headache.

The AR glasses particularly shine when watching YouTube videos and movies, although extended viewing times could result in eyestrain (and headaches). But your mileage may vary.

All in all, these were immersive experiences that added a new dimension to gameplay and interactivity. However, eyestrain was again a concern for me after extended sessions. In addition, the weight of the glasses themselves also contributed to fatigue. The glasses don't simply ‘fade into the background’ as you wear them. Instead, you're constantly aware of the fact that you're wearing a computer on your face.

 

[Rooster 🐓]

Yeah, let’s have Siri develop apps when it can barely handle turning my lights on and off.

Quite…or even end a workout!

 

[topdrawer]

On the contrary- sticking it to peoples faces is exactly the right way forwards for the use case of AR. It just needs to be seamless and elegant, unlike any such usage with a smartphone.

Then you can count apples device out since it requires a battery fanny pack. Nothing graceful about that.

I can also assure you that most people with glasses hate wearing glasses.

 

[cupcakes2000]

Then you can count apples device out since it requires a battery fanny pack. Nothing graceful about that.

I can also assure you that most people with glasses hate wearing glasses.

How on earth do you know what a device that is simply rumoured and never even seen requires?
Much less ‘assure’ me of what ‘most’ people think.
Ridiculous statements.

 

[citysnaps]

You’re saying stuff everyone knows. People on tech forums do read tech articles and tech news. Just because they are skeptical about how practical or impractical wearing a headset will be doesn’t make them clueless. I read the debates you had with some of them and they had more experience with these gadgets than yourself. Some of the VR fans were caught lying about how they are developers and architects so nobody should dispute their opinions. That was a low point for them.

Here is an AR glasses/headset which is lighter than most. It has the kind of smartphone based interface that are described in new rumors.

Same complaints about battery life (this one needs to be wired to a phone), eye strain and headaches.

Nreal Light AR Smart Glasses Review: Close, But Not Quite There Yet

Great as a tech demo, but compelling apps are lacking

www.tomshardware.com

That's not AR. Try harder. Cracks me up you don't seem to know the difference.

And then say: "You’re saying stuff everyone knows."

Like what? Be specific.

Tell me what you "know."

 

[Mrkevinfinnerty]

Fairly sure Apple is already building some of their software using Siri 💩

 

[topdrawer]

How on earth do you know what a device that is simply rumoured and never even seen requires?
Much less ‘assure’ me of what ‘most’ people think.
Ridiculous statements.

we are talking rumors. we are on a rumors site. otherwise, how do you know apple is not delivering the exact same device as the vive? or quest pro? it's all conjecture.

 

[cupcakes2000]

we are talking rumors. we are on a rumors site. otherwise, how do you know apple is not delivering the exact same device as the vive? or quest pro? it's all conjecture.

I don’t know anything, nor did i suggest otherwise, unlike you. I simply said:

On the contrary- sticking it to peoples faces is exactly the right way forwards for the use case of AR. It just needs to be seamless and elegant, unlike any such usage with a smartphone.

 

[Jensend]

Here is an AR glasses/headset which is lighter than most. It has the kind of smartphone based interface that are described in new rumors. (Link to NReal Light)

That's not AR. Try harder. Cracks me up you don't seem to know the difference.

NReal Light is an AR headset by any definition of AR that I've heard. It has 6DOF tracking and lets you see the real world behind computer generated images.

Same complaints about battery life (this one needs to be wired to a phone), eye strain and headaches.

Transparent AR and opaque AR/VR are different enough technologies that I wouldn't use one to judge how susceptible someone would be to eye strain and headaches when using the other. With transparent AR, you are getting photons hitting your eyes from two different sources, while with opaque AR/VR all the light is coming from one source, the screens.

 

[lk400]

Apple is working on new software tools that will allow both developers and customers to create augmented reality apps for its widely-rumored AR/VR headset, according to a paywalled report today from The Information's Wayne Ma.

Interestingly, the report claims that customers will be able to create and release AR apps for the headset via Siri, even if they do not have the ability to code:The report likens Apple's tool to Minecraft and Roblox, which allow anyone to easily create 3D tools and worlds. Apple is said to be utilizing technology that it acquired from Montreal-based startup Fabric Software in 2017, and customers would be able to distribute the AR apps they create on the App Store alongside developers.

Apple already offers some AR creation tools like Reality Composer on the iPhone and iPad that could be expanded to the headset.

It's worth noting that the report cites sources who last saw demonstrations of the tool in 2021, so the report is based on older information and it's possible that Apple's plans have changed at least slightly in the time that has passed since.

Apple is also working on AR content for the headset, according to the report:Apple's headset is expected to be released later this year and will reportedly have an iOS-like interface with a grid of apps, advanced eye and hand tracking, and the ability to function as an external display for a Mac. The software tools for the headset could be revealed at Apple's annual developers conference WWDC in June, giving developers time to create AR and VR apps for the headset before it launches to customers later in the year.

Article Link: Apple's Headset Will Reportedly Let Customers Create AR Apps via Siri

I think someone saw that episode of mythic quest where poppy creates playpen, and assumed that the Apple logo at the beginning meant it was actually a livestream from inside Apple.

 

[NEPOBABY]

That's not AR. Try harder.

It’s literally in the title. Try reading harder.

Nreal Light AR Smart Glasses Review​

 

[Jensend]

It’s literally in the title. Try reading harder.

To be fair, they also can their NReal Air “AR” glasses, and I think it’s debatable whether those should be considered to be AR or not. They are only 3DOF, so you can’t anchor the virtual content to the real world. You couldn’t, for example, put a virtual picture frame on a real wall that would stay in place as you move your head. And the 3DOF doesn’t even work with using it as a display for other devices, such as a Steam Deck.

 

[NEPOBABY]

To be fair, they also can their NReal Air “AR” glasses, and I think it’s debatable whether those should be considered to be AR or not. They are only 3DOF, so you can’t anchor the virtual content to the real world.

AR can be apps anchored to real world, or informatic overlays (ie notifications), or standalone apps/games that float in the viewport. There’s no singular application type that completely owns the term. The NReal, and others like it, can load apps from the smartphone that do all of these. It’s up to the app developers how they want to use it.

 

[Danfango]

Just tried and Siri being Siri. 😦

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That's pretty much the problem with it. That and the ability to for it to completely misinterpret what you're saying.

I mean the other day "hey siri, remind me later to put the trash out". So I'm going through my reminders and in there is "football". I don't even play football!?!?!?!

Me: "Hey Siri build me an app so that every time I go past Krispy Kreme it blacks out the display so I don't turn into a fat ass"

Siri: "here are your recommendations for donuts"

 

[Razorpit]

Siri already cannot; reliably call my wife, Siri knows “my wife’s“ home number but doesn’t know her cell (most of the time), yet Siri knows the cell number by my wife’s name. “Hey Siri Good night” works differently when I involve it from my HomePod as opposed to my phone, yet when I tap the button in my Home favorites, it works as it should. Siri cannot reliably play the music and/or albums I want her to play. Like the Replacements? Good luck getting “Pleased to Meet Me” to play through as it should without having original tracks “replaced” with alternate takes and/or live versions of songs. Siri is one hell’va timer starter though.

Now lets discuss Shortcuts. It’s useless for the most part because you can’t interact with any of the apps that don’t have the Siri commands you would expect them to have in the first place! Sure you can do a few neat parlor tricks, things that should already be in apps, other than that it’s useless.

Fix this stuff first.

 

[Razorpit]

Excellent news - looking forward to Apple's release!

It's a shame so many here apparently don't know (or refuse to learn) about AR and its potential in consumer and commercial markets.

I don’t think anyone here has any doubts about the future of AR. It will change the world. However one only has to look at the current state of HomeKit and Siri to realize this article is the annual MacRumor‘s April Fools prank accidentally released early. Probably by Siri… 😉

 

[PauloSera]

These rumors are just...has there been a more misunderstood Apple product in the rumor phase this century?

 

[citysnaps]

It’s literally in the title. Try reading harder.

No worries. If you want to latch onto and believe that's what AR is all about, please feel free to embrace your limited views.

 

[compwiz1202]

I will never get used to Siri, she is dumb as potato, can’t understand multiple languages on the fly, and keeps searching the web.
The sad part of this, she is tied to AppleMaps and also reads German, Italian, French, Spanish road names in English, they sound totally weird, makes Apple Maps obsolete.

Siri is just one more reason to not buy Apple Goggles.

I don't understand what is with all the sending to your phone junk. If I wanted to use my phone, I would have used it in the first place

 

[compwiz1202]

That's pretty much the problem with it. That and the ability to for it to completely misinterpret what you're saying.

I mean the other day "hey siri, remind me later to put the trash out". So I'm going through my reminders and in there is "football". I don't even play football!?!?!?!

Me: "Hey Siri build me an app so that every time I go past Krispy Kreme it blacks out the display so I don't turn into a fat ass"

Siri: "here are your recommendations for donuts"

Guess she's not a football fan 😀

 

[citysnaps]

I don’t think anyone here has any doubts about the future of AR. It will change the world. However one only has to look at the current state of HomeKit and Siri to realize this article is the annual MacRumor‘s April Fools prank accidentally released early. Probably by Siri… 😉

Still... People will reflexively grasp onto literally anything to support their beliefs that AR is really just another display. A gimmick looking for a reason to exist.

It reminds me of so many products Apple introduced and were immediately dissed before release; iPod, iPhone, iPad, Air Pods...

And then there's the Apple doesn't know what they're doing, despite collaborating for the last seven years with Stanford's AR/VR Laboratory. AR has been used commercially for years in various disciplines.

I think Apple's product will bring AR to the masses in multiple interesting ways. The potential is huge. One just needs to flex their imagination a bit. Apple will aid in that endeavor. Though no doubt some will automatically refuse to open their minds to the tech right from the beginning.

 

[Jensend]

AR can be apps anchored to real world, or informatic overlays (ie notifications), or standalone apps/games that float in the viewport. There’s no singular application type that completely owns the term. The NReal, and others like it, can load apps from the smartphone that do all of these. It’s up to the app developers how they want to use it.RI just said the Nreal Air can’t do the first item on the list. It doesn’t have any cameras to detect the real world. The NReal Light can.

Also, I wouldn’t include Google Glass under the category of AR, any more than I‘d include a transparent TV with no environmental awareness, or an Apple Watch.

What is your definition of AR? What devices make the cut and which don’t?

 

[NEPOBABY]

Also, I wouldn’t include Google Glass under the category of AR, any more than I‘d include a transparent TV with no environmental awareness, or an Apple Watch.

What is your definition of AR? What devices make the cut and which don’t?

You, nor I, define what AR is. Headset makers and developers do.