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A very expensive option if you want to add wireless streaming to an existing hifi system - as is Sonos, for that matter. I've got an Apple Airport Express which has proved a much better option - although I doubt this will be upgraded for Apple Airplay 2.
It should still carry on working though, the lack of AirPlay 2 should only become an issue if you want to use multi-room streaming with iOS devices. I'm using an :apple:TV 2 and :apple:TV 3 for my AirPlay streaming, which are great if you've got digital inputs (or use a DAC) with your current audio systems.
 
You could not buy 1 million tin cans for $349, but you can outfit your house with the real winner, which is the Echo.

not really the sound of echo is ***p. First and foremost it has to sound good. I shall be auditioning first much like I've auditioned Sonos, Bose and JBL's. Then most importantly I'll decide whats best for me and my conditions and buy accordingly.
An assistant is not high on my list. If it plays my music and plays it well that is all I care about.
I also have a full surround system with 120" projection screen, but I don't always want to power everything up all the time.
 
It should still carry on working though, the lack of AirPlay 2 should only become an issue if you want to use multi-room streaming with iOS devices. I'm using an :apple:TV 2 and :apple:TV 3 for my AirPlay streaming, which are great if you've got digital inputs (or use a DAC) with your current audio systems.
I was hoping that was going to be the case :) I just tend to stick BBC 6Music on every radio around the house otherwise!
 
I use it. It does what I need it for. The fact that it works well and easily with the hardware (i.e. tapping my wrist to turn) is a real benefit over other options.

Actually you will get that same "tap" using google maps. I use google maps all the time and the same thing happens.
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not really the sound of echo is ***p. .

Well no **** its $79. Why do people keep trying to compare the two? Homepod is a $350 premium device, one would hope it sounds better than the Echo.

I'm with you in that I am not interested in the "smart" portion of the speaker. I am more interested in the speakers capabilities. I can't wait to try it on Friday.
 
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Anyway, why is it not out in Canada yet? Surely if Siri can understand english it should not have an issue with a little word like „aboooooot“
To be fair, Siri can and does have trouble with all words.
as for why no Canada, Apple is clearly having some production issues with HomePod. They delayed the launch, limited rollout to 3 countries and the delivery dates are already slipping. All this on a product that will not sell in high volume.
 

To be fair, Siri can and does have trouble with all words.
as for why no Canada, Apple is clearly having some production issues with HomePod. They delayed the launch, limited rollout to 3 countries and the delivery dates are already slipping. All this on a product that will not sell in high volume.

It was initially restricted to only USA Uk and Australia even when it was on target for December launch at WWDC . They Apples top 3 for sales I guess , therefore it’s more we are the perfect market testers before they launch full scale . Also they are all English native and Siri only works with English atm. Guess French Canada is a factor to
 
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It was initially restricted to only USA Uk and Australia even when it was on target for December launch at WWDC . They Apples top 3 for sales I guess , therefore it’s more we are the perfect market testers before they launch full scale . Also they are all English native and Siri only works with English atm. Guess French Canada is a factor to
I didn't realize this. you may be right about French being a factor for Canada. It still looks to me like they are having some production issues with it but perhaps multi-language Siri is a problem too.
 
This x1000. Apple is well aware of the scrutiny they get. The last thing they’d do is rig the tests to make the HomePod sound better (or the others sound worse). It would backfire spectacularly.
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It will play stereo right now.
Not tru stereo. You know this. This is a single speaker. Downmixed stereo maybe.
 
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Does anyone use Apple Maps? Another waste of Apple resources. Years later it’s still not on par with Google Maps. Pretty embarrassing. There’s no reason Apple needs to reinvent the wheel here. They haven’t improved the map/navigation experience at all over Google. They are just wasting resources on a me-too service, and for what?

Huh. I use Maps, and prefer the UI over Google’s. Neither is perfect, but in my experience, Maps integrates well with contacts, Fantastical, and the Apple Watch. It’s also improved significantly from its initial release, which actually wasn’t as bad as some would have you believe, and continues to improve. It certainly works well enough for me that I’m not motivated to switch to a third party app.
And I’m not embarrassed to say so.
 
Not tru stereo. You know this. This is a single speaker. Downmixed stereo maybe.

There are 7 tweeters and it can bounce sounds all over the place (that's what the beemforming is about), so yeah its stereo. They're able to pick the instruments and singers from playback. You get a wider soundstage with 2 speakers, but it's not necessarily a more acurate soundstage.
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To be fair, Siri can and does have trouble with all words.
as for why no Canada, Apple is clearly having some production issues with HomePod. They delayed the launch, limited rollout to 3 countries and the delivery dates are already slipping. All this on a product that will not sell in high volume.

Right... production issue... And not... well, Airplay2... which has nothing to do with production.

Another option, they're selling a boat load and there are no production issue.

The fact that the Homepod depends heavily on service and its a new product means they'd try to limit to variables in debugging / servicing them. Not having to bother with multi-language support at launch is likely one of those simplications.
 
So? those who want Sonos can buy them, however the HomePod is said to sound better (from the early hands on) plus this is an Apple speaker.
My bet is that pairing two Sonos will surely sound better than one homepod. Speakers are a mature technology and it's highly doubtful that objective reviews will find homepod worth the substantial premium.
 
[doublepost=1517893186][/doublepost]Well, it's Mono, not stereo, even the Apple website says it's Mono...

What Apple says is:

Direct sound is beamed to the middle of the room, while ambient sound is diffused into left and right channels and bounced off the wall.

Put another HomePod in the same room and they automatically detect and balance each other. With advanced beamforming capabilities, a HomePod pair is able to create a wider, more immersive soundstage than a traditional stereo pair.

Apple never says the word mono anywhere. They clearly state a single HomePod has left & right channels. When using two HomePods they state it offers a wider soundstage than a "traditional stereo pair". They never said you need two HomePods to have stereo, only that two HomePods are better than two regular speakers.
 
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Does anyone use Apple Maps? Another waste of Apple resources. Years later it’s still not on par with Google Maps. Pretty embarrassing. There’s no reason Apple needs to reinvent the wheel here. They haven’t improved the map/navigation experience at all over Google. They are just wasting resources on a me-too service, and for what?[/QUOTE]

I use Apple Maps regularly and it works quite well for me. I've yet to see what all the whining is about. On the other hand, the less of anything Google I can use the better off I'll be. I don't see anything Google Maps can do for me better than Apple Maps, so that's one less way I need to get absorbed into the Borg.
 
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The haters just don’t get it. Because Apple won mobile, they will by extension go on to win in any market whose success is predicated on having a strong mobile presence. I don’t think it’s a coincidence at all that the HomePod is primarily marketed at iPhone owners who are subscribed to Apple Music (and likely have the disposable income to get a HomePod). Which if the other article is to be believed, continues to grow in users.

It’s actually quite genius how everything falls together so nicely.
 
What Apple says is:





Apple never says the word mono anywhere. They clearly state a single HomePod has left & right channels. When using two HomePods they state it offers a wider soundstage than a "traditional stereo pair". They never said you need two HomePods to have stereo, only that two HomePods are better than two regular speakers.
Yep both coming from a single source. Not stereo. Try again.
 
Yep both coming from a single source. Not stereo. Try again.

So, no clue again, about well, anything.
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From the Apple Website.
"Create stereo sound with a second HomePod."

read what the guy above you said. bye.
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Does anyone use Apple Maps? Another waste of Apple resources. Years later it’s still not on par with Google Maps. Pretty embarrassing. There’s no reason Apple needs to reinvent the wheel here. They haven’t improved the map/navigation experience at all over Google. They are just wasting resources on a me-too service, and for what?

I use Apple Maps regularly and it works quite well for me. I've yet to see what all the whining is about. On the other hand, the less of anything Google I can use the better off I'll be. I don't see anything Google Maps can do for me better than Apple Maps, so that's one less way I need to get absorbed into the Borg.[/QUOTE]

The majority of people on an Iphone use Apple map, google the stats, so what are you rambling about.
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[doublepost=1517893186][/doublepost]Well, it's Mono, not stereo, even the Apple website says it's Mono...

It's not mono, Apple's web says so.... You are keen on that kinda thing hey buddy. Go there.
 
Dates in the UK have changed again, one day earlier than this article states: Feb 12th.

Which is, only one working day later. So I guess availability and demand are in balance.
 
Does anyone use Apple Maps? Another waste of Apple resources. Years later it’s still not on par with Google Maps. Pretty embarrassing. There’s no reason Apple needs to reinvent the wheel here. They haven’t improved the map/navigation experience at all over Google. They are just wasting resources on a me-too service, and for what?
In short, Apple Maps is leverage.

Prior to that, Google Maps was horrible when Google stopped updating their maps for iOS after Apple refused to give them the data they wanted. Apple would learn an important lesson that day - that you need to have your own ecosystem so as not to be held hostage by third parties.

It's no surprise that Google released an updated maps app for iOS soon after iOS 6 introduced Apple Maps. And has kept it updated regularly because it has to be much better if Google is to convince users to use their service over the preinstalled default.

And if Google wants to play punk and remove google maps from iOS one day, we still have Apple Maps to fall back on.

We iOS winners won regardless of whether you stuck with Apple Maps or went with Google Maps.

And yes, I use Apple Maps on all my Apple devices exclusively. Don't even have google maps installed on them.
 
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