Here is a though, Apple does not care about the users either. Apple cares about money they can extract from users by being the middleman everywhere.
No, its Apple. For things like KeyChain they don't even develop the software for it on Windows. So why would I use it and lose access to my passwords when I am outside of an Apple device. Third party services are better this way.
Biggest flaw in the argument. You’re not forced to use in-app payment options. You only have to look at Netflix as a perfect example of this assertion being false.
Maybe, but out of all the companies involved they have the most motivation to restrict access to me. I have many macOS developers that repeatedly ignore my requests to be removed from their email mailing lists. I don’t want to have to deal with every company that I ever try an app from.
The cost of something is only one factor. They could offer it and take a smaller profit. They choose not to. That's on Valve and Microsoft, not Apple.
Ever heard of PayPal? Amazon pay? Google checkout? Apple Pay? All of those services allow you to pay a 3rd party for pennies on the dollar.
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That's strange. I have no trouble using it on any platform with a browser.
Do you think Apple deserves a commission when someone orders an Uber? Because right now they get nothing. It’s kind of bizarre to me that Apple takes no commission when you order an Uber but if you pay $1.99 to remove an ad from an app Apple gets 30%.
Yes, they do. The fact that they don’t is exactly why we are having a discussion about who shouldn‘t have to pay. As soon as they made one exception everyone wanted to be exempt. Apple needs to clean up the store and charge everyone the same fees.
OK so if I buy clothing from Target using their iOS app Apple should get 30% of that transaction?
Exactly this, Apple wants to get paid for services they did not perform. Yes they need to be compensated for running the AppStore, this is the develop fees, if they are too low Apple should raise them. Maybe even charge the developer per App download.
If Apple doesn't change course they may find themselves only able do business in Kazakhstan and Niger and a handful of other countries. 😂
I don’t know, but you are right to assume they should get something.
Isn’t that then an issue with Apple and it’s curation of the App Store? You’re basically saying Apple allows non trustworthy apps in the store. Also what about all the non-digital goods people purchase via apps. Doesn’t seem to be a trust issue there.
But they did provide a service. They provided Uber with a platform of people who can all be reached with a single application. Either they need to pay for access per transaction or they need to pay an annual fee based on the number of users who have access to downloading their app.
Why? Why does Target owe Apple anything? Target certainly isn’t acquiring customers from Apple. In fact I’d argue Apple provides very little customer acquisition outside of games and maybe some creative apps.
The service Apple provided is securely sending an App from their servers to a user's device. Everything after that Uber provided. I believe the cost to Apple to store an App on their servers is like 1 cent per month, and the cost to transmit the app to the user's phone is another cent. Round it up a few times and say maybe Apple spent ten cents to get Uber installed on an iPhone.
Exactly. Rather than innovate with new products Apple would rather grow their business by taking 15% from this transaction, 30% from that transaction, and 0.15% from yet another transaction. Apple's basically turned iOS into one giant bundle of microtransactions. Only we consumers pay for it in the form of higher prices from the vendors we're buying from, rather than directly to Apple themselves. Apple just collects it on the backend.
Because Apple built the mall they placed their store in. Target is acquiring customers from Apple. Without Apple target would have had to build dozens of apps for every device that might possibly have wanted to access their content. You can’t say, no android is the other option because had Apple not built the iPhone we wouldn’t have android like it exists today.
Apple is providing a curation of users that Uber can access. That's the most valuable thing about iPhone. Every user regardless of device generation can run the same app. Apple should be compensated for that access. Just like we pay for the access to music on Spotify or movies on Netflix, and not just the content we watch.
What about a user who purchases an iPhone from Target?
I am pretty sure that Target gets paid when someone buys an iPhone from them. Do you think they don’t make money off the sale of iPhones?
Spotify pays for the rights to the music. In your example Apple should be paying Uber for the right to have Uber on the AppStore and charging users a monthly fee to download apps. You want that?
