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Apple's iPad NYTimes Promo Video Shows Flash Again

This is such a beautiful example it couldn't be passed up without comment.

This gentleman uses this as an example of why the iPad needs more features.
TimothyJarman said:
..... Nobody is asking for everything, but you dont buy a dinner set and leave out the fork.....
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The reality is, if you where to buy a dinner set and the salad fork was missing, it wouldn't ruin the eating experience. You could make due with the dinner fork. HTML5 will doubtless be in the NYT website. It's in their best interest and they know it.
 
nelmat said:
They work just fine on my windows machines, they're a little sluggish - but then so is everything else on windows vista. Safari outperforms ie hands down - what issue do you have specifically, or are you just trying to sound clever?
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Consider yourself lucky. Both iTunes and Safari on Windows don't come close to how they perform in OS X. Other applications, like IE8, run fantastic in Windows 7.

My friends are asking me how I could possibly enjoy iTunes, because they only know the sluggish Windows version. And with Flash it's the other way around.
 
If Apple has already convinced the NYT to use a Flash alternative, then we can be pretty sure Apple is on the straight path to kill Flash ...

By the time Flash is dead, we can have BR :p
It is good that HTML5 goes forward but Apple, with these visionary-misionary things can be a PITA ... They can leverage their "user experience" mojo to try to get rid of anyone ...
 
brian.gillespie said:
This is such a beautiful example it couldn't be passed up without comment.

This gentleman uses this as an example of why the iPad needs more features.


The reality is, if you where to buy a dinner set and the salad fork was missing, it wouldn't ruin the eating experience. You could make due with the dinner fork. HTML5 will doubtless be in the NYT website. It's in their best interest and they know it.
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True true and more true, BUT it depend on what your eating and how well its prepared, i.e. if it has been cut up for you, but surly its better just to include the fork?

Steve is a billion times right about html 5 BUTTTTT Just let us turn flash on or off its not hard, its not going to kill them is it, just keep people happy and prove a point that flash drains battery etc, let us turn it on or off....thats it, not hard at all in the slightest.

By default flash is turned off, if the user turns flash on, put a warning regarding the problem that could occur. Its our problem then.
 
TimothyJarman said:
True true and more true, BUT it depend on what your eating and how well its prepared, i.e. if it has been cut up for you, but surly its better just to include the fork?

Steve is a billion times right about html 5 BUTTTTT Just let us turn flash on or off its not hard, its not going to kill them is it, just keep people happy and prove a point that flash drains battery etc, let us turn it on or off....thats it, not hard at all in the slightest.

By default flash is turned off, if the user turns flash on, put a warning regarding the problem that could occur. Its our problem then.
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I think this could be an interesting approach put the decision to run flash in hands of the consumer.
 
I'm not sure if I'm watching the wrong promo or what but the one I just watched shows a broken flash icon.

The one where Jon Ives starts talking ?
 

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I NEVER understood why ANYONE would want to use CPU hog Flash anyways for ANY video... H.264 seems like a pretty smooth operator on modern hardware -- Flash? NO WAY!!!
 
The Alternate Reality

No, that's not Flash content you see. It's actually a visualization of how this content will look when Flash is replaced by the HTML 5 "canvass" tag. The NYT site will detect the presence of iPad and other iPhoneOS platforms and send an "alternate" page, one with canvass and CSS 3 instead of Flash.

This will be the beginning of the end for Flash.
 
libertyforall said:
I NEVER understood why ANYONE would want to use CPU hog Flash anyways for ANY video... H.264 seems like a pretty smooth operator on modern hardware -- Flash? NO WAY!!!
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"I discovered that by not turning on the iPad the battery will last forever, so I have decided to remove the power button." - Steve Jobs
 
I guess they changed it again - because the video I get is the one with no flash indicator.
 
skinnylegs said:
I'm glad the iPad won't have Flash. That means there will be a couple less people I have to stand behind when the line wraps around my local Apple Store the day this gem of a device is released.
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Plus all the "it must have flash people" typically say something like...

"I was totally going to buy ten of these things, but if I can't play farmville, then I'm buying an Archos.

When reality, they never were going to buy one and never will. They just want to bad mouth apple.

This same thing happened during the iPhone launch too. "No keyboard, I'll stick with my blackberry while the iPhones fails miserably". None of these people ever had any intention of buying the iPhone, but sure was fun bad mouthing Apple, until Oh wait, the iPhone has been a huge failure!

The honest truth is that 95% of the people who will buy this, don't care what flash is if they even know what it is. These same people will just buy an app in the app store of a flash ported game instead of ever even considering if flash should even be on the iPad. These are also the same people with iPhones and never even knew or care that there is no flash on the iPhone. The only thing they notice is there are far fewer "punch the monkey" ads on their iPhones and have no clue why.
 
Erwin-Br said:
Consider yourself lucky. Both iTunes and Safari on Windows don't come close to how they perform in OS X. Other applications, like IE8, run fantastic in Windows 7.

My friends are asking me how I could possibly enjoy iTunes, because they only know the sluggish Windows version. And with Flash it's the other way around.
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iTunes on OSX is pretty darn sluggish and crappy. I can't stand it personally. Terrible, terrible software.
 
Proof that Flash is on it's way out...

ericinboston said:
I beg to differ. Almost every single website I visit has some kind of Flash content in it...and I'm not talking about videos like on youtube. Sites like BestBuy.com, Amazon, Boston.com, CNN, etc. I think 75% is a very realistic percentage.

Flash may not be a "standard" in sense of being affiliated with a standards committee, but Flash is definitely standard in web development...easily for the past 10 years. You don't really think web developers (in college or out of school) only write in HTML and JSP do you?

You do realize that even MR has Flash embedded all over the place (the ads)...right?

-Eric
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And you do realize that more and more MAJOR companies are moving away from Flash and going with Web Standards based coding (html, css, ajax, etc.) One such example is a little company called Adobe. :eek: I think they make something called Flash, yet they've redesigned their [once entirely flash-based] Adobe TV page with HTML, CSS and AJAX (only the videos once you are redirected to them are Flash.)

Now why would they do that? Maybe because the content heavy pages were too slow and inaccessible as a Flash-based page? Makes you think doesn't it...

Another one was the My Coke Rewards site that used to be all Flash-based, now, no Flash at all.
 
lex750 said:
"I discovered that by not turning on the iPad the battery will last forever, so I have decided to remove the power button." - Steve Jobs
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Actually, Steve said like that it would last a month. And assuming they are using Li-ion, they're not going to have much a of a charge after a year or two anyway.

Oh right, that was a joke. ha ha ha.
 
ericinboston said:
I know why the video has been changed....because it's MAGICAL!

I hear Apple is changing the game a bit...instead of having different colored iPads (like the iPods), they will be different scents...like lavender and tulips and "spring freshness scent"


-Eric
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LOL!!! my vote for best post on this whole thread!
 
BRLawyer said:
iTunes is perfect here, and BY FAR the best jukebox software ever...trolling a bit too much perhaps?
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iTunes a 76MB app, that takes almost 100MB just to launch it? For a "Jukebox" app? It's bloatware to people who actually know a bit or two about computers and software. But hey to each their own.
 
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