You forgot "production delays" I will have mine in 2012 when it is available.
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Apple's iPhone 5 Media Event Reportedly Scheduled for October 4
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You forgot "production delays" I will have mine in 2012 when it is available.
Typical Apple fanboy response.
Pot calling kettle black... ha, ha. But I don't think Apple "owes" me anything, and if the next iPhone is a smash I'll buy it, if not I'll skip or buy something else. I'm only "loyal" to Apple until they don't make products I want. That is hardly a fanboy position, but if you must have a label to understand things have at it.
http://www.bgr.com/2011/09/21/wedge-apples-iphone-4s-will-be-only-new-model-to-launch-this-year/
Ugh. Seems we were getting new rumors every hour now....
Ugh. Seems we were getting new rumors every hour now....
THAT'S when Apple should have gone to 4"! Now, Apple has to back pedal on screen detail If they want to increase the screen size. Stupid, stupid move.
This is by far the most sensible comment I've heard regarding whether we'll be getting a 4S only or a 4S and a redesigned 5:
From BGR: "Why would Apple bump up only the processor specs of the iPhone 4 in addition to a newly designed iPhone 5 if the goal is to sell it into the pre-paid market at a lower cost?” Blair wondered in his note. “A 4S would simply cost more and a 4S itself wouldn’t create a mid-tier market unless it was priced at $99 and the iPhone 4 went to $49 with the new iPhone at $199. We see this scenario as unlikely.”"
http://www.bgr.com/2011/09/21/wedge-apples-iphone-4s-will-be-only-new-model-to-launch-this-year/
I think we'll only be seeing a 4S this year.
From BGR: "Why would Apple bump up only the processor specs of the iPhone 4 in addition to a newly designed iPhone 5 if the goal is to sell it into the pre-paid market at a lower cost?” Blair wondered in his note. “A 4S would simply cost more and a 4S itself wouldn’t create a mid-tier market unless it was priced at $99 and the iPhone 4 went to $49 with the new iPhone at $199. We see this scenario as unlikely.”"
http://www.bgr.com/2011/09/21/wedge-apples-iphone-4s-will-be-only-new-model-to-launch-this-year/
I think we'll only be seeing a 4S this year.
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Yeah, I'm another Android user/owner who will very likely make the change. The Wifey is already using an iPhone 4, so I've had plenty of hands on with it, and know the good/bad/ugly (plus we have an iPad).
My Android experience has been mediocre. I've owned a Captivate and an Atrix and fooled around pretty extensively with several different products from HTC, Samsung, Moto ... and I've flashed CMx, Cog, different radios/BT stacks, done GPS tweaks, all in an effort to create a consistent, hassle free phone experience.
FWIW, I've been hacking around with phones/electronics for 20+ years, and am currently prototyping a couple of apps to extend some of our Enterprise solutions (Android and iOS). I'm very agnostic with technology, right around the World HQ here I've got Windows (desktop and servers), Linux, OSX.
The Atrix had very good battery, but a Pentile based display with so-so color/contrast, a mediocre camera, the Captivate of course has a dysfunctional GPS (after two hardware swaps and countless tweaks). Both had email issues with my configuration, requiring me to first deal with K9 and later upgrade to a pay app (Touchdown). I've run all the typical enhancements like LP/ADW (pay versions) and played around with things like widget locker. It's kind of fun.
... but at some point all the tweaking, and widget install/de-install, re-re-flashing, becomes tedious and you just want a device that you pick up and use - that has a high degree of availability (whether that's a factor of battery, app stability), etc. That Android phones expose the filesystem or score X amount on a benchmarks or can make an icon out of a bitmap becomes less important vs. a seamless, hassle free experience.
The SGS II is a pretty outstanding piece of hardware, overcomes several of the hardware issues (though still plenty of GPS, WiFi, and other problems being reporting ...). It's due at AT&T on Oct 2nd, so I'll wait and see how things pan out with Apple, but I'm 95% sure at this point, I'm headed to an iPhone.
I hope I can...my phone has been at the end of its life for the cast couple of months...if it breaks before the new one is release I'll be forced to go with something else.
Because I definitely wouldn't settle with an i4 right before a new one comes out...I'd have to go Droid
Here's to hoping it doesn't break.
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Everybody says that...but who actually goes to the Apple store when getting their new phone?
I'll go to my local Verizon store bright and early on release date.
I've never had problems doing that before with AT&T.
Well stated. You said everything I wanted to say, but a whole lot better than I would have written it. Bluetooth is another issue I have to go along with GPS. And flashing ROMs gets old in a hurry.
BGR: Only iPhone "4S" this year: http://www.bgr.com/2011/09/21/wedge-apples-iphone-4s-will-be-only-new-model-to-launch-this-year/
The person making this claim also says the 4S may actually have a redesigned 4 inch screen, which may explain those new cases we've been seeing. So is this semantics? 4S = 5 and 5 = 4S? Are they one and the same? A redesign that just isn't that major? I don't know. In many ways, it makes sense.
I think 4S = 5, and vice versa. We've been mislead into thinking that a 4S = minor internal upgrade, while a 5 = major upgrade & design overhaul. Why can't it be both in the same thing? Meaning... one iPhone this year; a slightly upgraded but also slightly redesigned phone (an answer to antennae-gate, perhaps)?
And whatever they call it is whatever they call it.
The person making this claim also says the 4S may actually have a redesigned 4 inch screen, which may explain those new cases we've been seeing. So is this semantics? 4S = 5 and 5 = 4S? Are they one and the same? A redesign that just isn't that major? I don't know. In many ways, it makes sense.
I think 4S = 5, and vice versa. We've been mislead into thinking that a 4S = minor internal upgrade, while a 5 = major upgrade & design overhaul. Why can't it be both in the same thing? Meaning... one iPhone this year; a slightly upgraded but also slightly redesigned phone (an answer to antennae-gate, perhaps)?
And whatever they call it is whatever they call it.
WHY?
Simple. Not everyone will be ready to go to a larger iPhone with a larger screen. I'm sure there will still be plenty that want to stick with with the iPhone size we are used to but will want updated internals.
And that's precisely why the iPhone 4 will still be around, for the mid/low entry market. EDIT: Ah I misread you. That's possible. Though I wonder, could they do a sort of "silent" upgrade and simply just update the iPhone 4's internals without needing to give it a new name? And can Apple still price point it low enough with upgraded internals, even if they are slight upgrades? I don't know. You have a valid point.
Remember, it's the rumor websites who were the ones that invented the names "4S" and "5" and created the idea that they are both different and not just different, but drastically different... when they could be one and the same: a slightly upgraded but also slightly redesigned phone (an answer to antennae-gate, perhaps)? And whatever they call it is whatever they call it.
I hate the name iPhone 4S. It just sounds dumb. From the very beginning I said they're not gonna call it the iPhone 4S and I still stand by that comment.
What?! Oct 4th?! That's 2 more weeks of pain! Apple should really compensate us for the mental torture!
Having a new iPhone released is our compensation
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So now we have a reliable but unofficial announcement of the upcoming release of invites to an upcoming announcement of the upcoming release of a product.
To which everyone collectively sighs a breath of relief that things are now "clarified"
Yup, pretty much.
Although its not officially coming to T-Mobile, I hope it still supports their frequencies. Then I'll just buy an unlocked version.
Personally, I am also excited to see them cover heretofore unrevealed iOS 5 features.
Hors d'oeuvre: Sales figures, maybe new iPods?
Appetizer: iCloud launch
Salad: iPhone 4S
Entree: iPhone 5
Dessert: "Assistant", Maps, or other vastly improved iOS 5 feature!
I can dream.
Sounds good. When can I eat? Oh right, 4 October....
I'm thinking that too. Apple is tryi to keep things under wraps, so they probably requested their event not be listed.
There is a very good reason for apple to standardize on one processor across all models of ipad, iphone and ipod touch. Price. Apple achieves its margins by standardizing on parts across product lines and placing massive orders.
i dont know what is the test they did, but engadget say
which is actually decent IMO, my iphone 4 has about 8-9 hours video playback and 10+ hours with constant usage
well we have seen no betas for iCloud, iTunes, iOS 5, Lion 10.7.2 this week so maybe thats a sign GM is near?
I agree that Apple will continue to offer two models, but I think it will continue to be the same strategy of offering the new model along side last year's model at a discount.
If Apple launches a completely redesigned iPhone 5, then I cannot see them also releasing a slightly updated 4s. We all know that the iPhone 4 has some issues (both real and perceived), but obviously not big enough issues for Apple to have taken it off store shelves or go through a mid-cycle redesign. Also they weren't big enough issues to keep it from becoming the best selling handset. So why spend time and money slightly redesigning this phone to deliver a 4s, when you are also building an all new phone for the same launch window? If the iPhone 4 has been selling so well for 18 months, then there is no reason to stop selling it in favor of spending money to create an iPhone 4s.
The people that would be buying Apple's less expensive offering are not looking for upgrades. This would totally defeat the purpose of saving them money. For a budget conscious shopper, the iphone 4 would be fine, as it is still a pretty good phone. Is it top of the line compared to an iphone 5? No of course not, but then again, they opted for the bottom rung handset and not the iphone 5.
To me it seems like one of two things will happen...
1. We get an iPhone 5 (major redesign), and the iPhone 4becomes the new discounted entry-level device
or
2. We get a slightly redesigned 4s, to be sold alongside the discounted iP4.
I personally am hoping for option 1.
If Apple launches a completely redesigned iPhone 5, then I cannot see them also releasing a slightly updated 4s. We all know that the iPhone 4 has some issues (both real and perceived), but obviously not big enough issues for Apple to have taken it off store shelves or go through a mid-cycle redesign. Also they weren't big enough issues to keep it from becoming the best selling handset. So why spend time and money slightly redesigning this phone to deliver a 4s, when you are also building an all new phone for the same launch window? If the iPhone 4 has been selling so well for 18 months, then there is no reason to stop selling it in favor of spending money to create an iPhone 4s.
The people that would be buying Apple's less expensive offering are not looking for upgrades. This would totally defeat the purpose of saving them money. For a budget conscious shopper, the iphone 4 would be fine, as it is still a pretty good phone. Is it top of the line compared to an iphone 5? No of course not, but then again, they opted for the bottom rung handset and not the iphone 5.
To me it seems like one of two things will happen...
1. We get an iPhone 5 (major redesign), and the iPhone 4becomes the new discounted entry-level device
or
2. We get a slightly redesigned 4s, to be sold alongside the discounted iP4.
I personally am hoping for option 1.
Steve will be there so everyone can cheer.
Or, it will be MBA Tim onstage with The Steve on the massive monitor behind - saying goodbye.
And it will accidentally be staged so that it makes everyone think of both the 1984 SuperBowl commercial and the 1997 MacWorld....
All I gotta say ...
^ low class, no class. plain and simple
Although I'm sure everyone attending in person, and those of us watching from afar would LOVE to see Mr. Jobs attend a la cameo appearance ... I'd rather the event news, speculation just be posted as such and have Mr. Jobs show up in a cameo appearance as a wonderful surprise (maybe a quick sweep in the audience - to keep us guessing)
Stating his appearance being based on his health = low class man
(yes I said that in a Rudy voice voice from Fat Albert).
^ low class, no class. plain and simple
Although I'm sure everyone attending in person, and those of us watching from afar would LOVE to see Mr. Jobs attend a la cameo appearance ... I'd rather the event news, speculation just be posted as such and have Mr. Jobs show up in a cameo appearance as a wonderful surprise (maybe a quick sweep in the audience - to keep us guessing)
Stating his appearance being based on his health = low class man
(yes I said that in a Rudy voice voice from Fat Albert).
Say NO to Photoshop
STOP using photoshop in news stories. Are you trying to make yourself look bad?
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The term 'fanboy' or the French variation 'fanbois' is to be used explicitly for the purpose of baiting.
It says so right there in the NDA. Try reading it.
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I totally agree. Simple is best. Which means option 2. Sorry
STOP using photoshop in news stories. Are you trying to make yourself look bad?
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Typical Apple fanboy response.
The term 'fanboy' or the French variation 'fanbois' is to be used explicitly for the purpose of baiting.
It says so right there in the NDA. Try reading it.
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I totally agree. Simple is best. Which means option 2. Sorry
you just signed your own death warrant!
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You predicted Eraly october, I predicted Mdi october