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There is really no way to tell for sure, but I would bet that if the X sold for $799 - you would have a lot more people buying it. Ultimately I don't think Apple cares if people can't adapt to not having a home button (they will eventually), but they do want to offer options at multiple price points. I trust they know better than you or I when it comes to those decisions.
Maybe they would have but we will never know. But for now we have the numbers to go by and the numbers do not lie.
Then not all corporate decisions are gold.....big corporations do make bad decisions sometimes.
 
Another interpretation is that it says less about the popularity of FaceID than it does about normal demand cycles. More price-sensitive consumers are drawn to the less expensive handsets regardless of the point at which we find ourselves in Apple’s product cycle, while those who are less concerned with price are holding off to see what Apple unveils in a month and a half.

You missed the point that the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus were also for sale during this period and quite well still.

HO HO HO!

Doesn't say much for Face ID's popularity. Apparently way more than 55% of people still wanted the Home button after all. All in all, I'd say the huge winner was Touch ID.

Pretty much what I predicted and was laughed at for saying. The Home Button and Touch ID are sound solid tech.

All these new gestures and mistaken touches to me lead to a "bag o' hurt." Too many things to remember. Apple is about simplifying things. Taking the home button away unnecessarily complicates a lot of things in my opinion.

But what do I know? The buyers have spoken. :D

Tim Cook, the bean counter, should have noticed this. What will happen when there is no Home Button iPhone left in the mix? Hmm.
 
This is likely attributable to the high price of the iPhone X, with pricing that starts at $999 vs. the iPhone 8's $699 starting price. Given the popularity of the two lower-cost devices, Apple plans to continue offering consumers an affordable option in 2018 with the 6.1-inch LCD iPhone that rumors suggest will be sold alongside more expensive 5.8 and 6.5-inch OLED models.

Possible to attribute to high cost, but another explanation is screen size. If you combine 6S+7+8+SE, you have nearly 50% of all iPhone sales. That's 50% of customers preferring either a lower cost device, or a device with slightly smaller screens.

Either way you cut it, every rumor that I've heard for the next generation line up just doesn't make sense.
 
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You tell me the issue....... Look at the numbers. Are you sure it was a price point or did people prefer the legacy models more? Then as far as I can tell most iphone buyers do not really shop by price. That is not what all the demographics and data over the years have said. You're a long time poster here.....you know this to be true.

In the US, I think a lot of this is driven by carrier discounts and promotion. Let's say you are a normal iPhone user (75% of them) that buys a phone when they need them, or when it is available for an upgrade. You walk into your carrier, and you are offered a BOGO deal. Or you walk into the Apple Store, and you convince yourself you don't need the phone that costs $300, or you don't want to learn FaceID. Over the next few years, more of those customers will convert to FaceID phones.

Personally, with new Macbooks and iPads coming, I am debating whether I can skip a new iPhone this year. Probably not
 
You missed the point that the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus were also for sale during this period and quite well still.

HO HO HO!

Doesn't say much for Face ID's popularity. Apparently way more than 55% of people still wanted the Home button after all. All in all, I'd say the huge winner was Touch ID.

Pretty much what I predicted and was laughed at for saying. The Home Button and Touch ID are sound solid tech.

All these new gestures and mistaken touches to me lead to a "bag o' hurt." Too many things to remember. Apple is about simplifying things. Taking the home button away unnecessarily complicates a lot of things in my opinion.

But what do I know? The buyers have spoken. :D

Tim Cook, the bean counter, should have noticed this. What will happen when there is no Home Button iPhone left in the mix? Hmm.
I love my iPhone 7 and its home button, but I think it’s hard to say that that’s the driving force here when the only iPhone with Face ID costs so much more than any iPhone with touch ID.
 
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I was one them but I'm not sure I'll chose a plus version this year, I may replace my 8+ with the new version of the 5.8'' display.
I prefer the form factor of my 8+ but the new plus will have an aspect ratio similar to the X and the only problem I have with my 8+ is size. If they made a 5.5'' without bezels it would be the perfect phone to me, but I'll have to chose what's available so either 5.8 or the new plus.

Another reason why I skipped iPhone X was the delayed release. I have the possibility to change smartphone every 12 months and I'm eligible for update in October so about a week after the new iPhone's release date I'll be able to upgrade, I didn't want to wait until at least November to have X and become eligible for the following upgrade in Nov 2018.

Price was an issue of course, but I'd have had to pay a few more $ a month, not a huge difference

Its interesting that apple have gone for "holdability" with the X design. The form factor of the 8 Plus is definitely two handed. But if the X plus uses the X form factor then wouldn't that be easier to hold with one hand? Maybe an X based form factor for a larger phone will actually be better for you to use?
 
Maybe they would have but we will never know. But for now we have the numbers to go by and the numbers do not lie.
Then not all corporate decisions are gold.....big corporations do make bad decisions sometimes.

Yup, the info shows the 8 Plus and X, their two highest priced phones sold the most. They also owned 8 of the 10 top smartphone sales in Q2. Their bad decisions are going to catch up one day.
 
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Once you get an X, you realize the 'notch' isn't a thing, at all, which is what the designers realized at Apple once they used it for a few days...and Touch ID also doesn't matter.

I didn't pick the X because I like to let new tech mature for a year or so before I join in. I'm pretty anti early-adopter.
 
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Doesn't say much for Face ID's popularity. Apparently way more than 55% of people still wanted the Home button after all. All in all, I'd say the huge winner was Touch ID.

So you assume that everyone made their choice of iPhone solely on the fact that it has a home button... :rolleyes:
I have the 7+ and the home button had nothing to do with my decision to buy. I'd love to have FaceID, but I just don't have FaceID money
 
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I think the iPhone 7 Plus is a terrific value for an iPhone. I recommend it to people who don't want the latest and greatest (and they would already own the iPhone X anyway). I don't think people are missing much with regards to features and power by staying with the 7 Plus. While I'm very happy with the iPhone X, I really could have skipped this year and been very content with the 7 Plus.
Well, that's what I did. A colleague just got the 8 plus as she had a 6 that was acting up.
 
There is really no way to tell for sure, but I would bet that if the X sold for $799 - you would have a lot more people buying it. Ultimately I don't think Apple cares if people can't adapt to not having a home button (they will eventually), but they do want to offer options at multiple price points. I trust they know better than you or I when it comes to those decisions.

Apple can’t produce enough iPhone X’s to sell @799.

I think your right, jamz is forgetting the new 6.1 inch iPhone, if it’s multicolored like the rumors are saying, well Apple is going to have a great quarter .

I’m getting Xplus, but might pick up a 6.1 iphone 9 as well.
 
I think the iPhone 7 Plus is a terrific value for an iPhone. I recommend it to people who don't want the latest and greatest (and they would already own the iPhone X anyway). I don't think people are missing much with regards to features and power by staying with the 7 Plus. While I'm very happy with the iPhone X, I really could have skipped this year and been very content with the 7 Plus.

I agree, I loved my 7 Plus. I felt it was a better value than the 8 Plus.
 
Apple can’t produce enough iPhone X’s to sell @799.

I think your right, jamz is forgetting the new 6.1 inch iPhone, if it’s multicolored like the rumors are saying, well Apple is going to have a great quarter
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I’m getting Xplus, but might pick up a 6.1 iphone 9 as well.

I agree, I expect a monster quarter from Apple in the fall. I considered the 6.1, but wouldn't want to take a step back in regards to the camera. I am likely going with the X Plus, although I told myself the X was the perfect size haha.
 
And those of us who have actually purchased an X will say "Notch, what notch?"

I guess it is time to buy glasses then...

The Home Button and Touch ID are sound solid tech

As a consumer I'm not interested in FaceID and the notch makes the phone looks cheap and it is ridiculous. The notch is one part that makes me not upgrading my current iPhone.
 
In the US, I think a lot of this is driven by carrier discounts and promotion. Let's say you are a normal iPhone user (75% of them) that buys a phone when they need them, or when it is available for an upgrade. You walk into your carrier, and you are offered a BOGO deal. Or you walk into the Apple Store, and you convince yourself you don't need the phone that costs $300, or you don't want to learn FaceID. Over the next few years, more of those customers will convert to FaceID phones.

Personally, with new Macbooks and iPads coming, I am debating whether I can skip a new iPhone this year. Probably not
Agree with everything you said..... Good points :)
 
I honestly cannot believe that. If that wast the case then total sales numbers and other analytical companies would never need to go through the length of sourcing a LOT more data.

minimal data ... minimal accuracy.

500 users is NOT enough to presume the sales data for over 150 million people ;)

I'm curious where this 95% with a 4.4% margin of error is coming from?

A basic statistics course.

Sampling distribution, confidence intervals, Central Limit Theorem, and hypothesis testing.

Results from taking samples didn’t seem right to me either until I took a stats class.
 
Terrific device. I would love the landscape mode to be mandatory in all apps. I like to use the 8 Plus like a mini PC when I watch videos in landscape mode and switch between apps.

This is why I went for the 8 Plus instead of an X.
 
Yup, the info shows the 8 Plus and X, their two highest priced phones sold the most. They also owned 8 of the 10 top smartphone sales in Q2. Their bad decisions are going to catch up one day.
now you're twisting words to fit your narrative. First you said it was the lower cost phones were making up sales...now you say it is the higher priced phones.....
The numbers do not lie. People preferred the legacy model iphones. Of course they will be forced to adopt the new style/models as they will phase out the old models.
The iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, and iPhone X accounted for 54 percent of US iPhone sales during the quarter
Older iPhones continued to be popular as well, with the iPhone 7, 7 Plus, SE, 6s Plus and 6s making up 46 percent of sales.
 
Couldn’t care less if my phone had the home button or not, I’ll adapt, my problem was the £1000 price tag.

Ehh back 3 years ago when I bought my 6 plus with the largest capacity it was near 1000 dollars.

A grand for the iPhone X shouldn’t have shocked anyone.
 
Despite being an outdated device, the iPhone SE actually increased in sales from June 2017 to 2018. Like I said before, Apple would be be making a mistake if they abandoned the smaller form factor. There is a smaller yet decent sized chunk of the population who want smaller devices.
 
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