This isn’t sticking with your old phone, this is actively buying a NEW phone in mid 2018 that was released in 2016.
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Apple's iPhone 8 Plus Was the Top Selling iPhone in the U.S. During Q2 2018
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I know this relates to sales in the US but I’ve just come home from Ibiza and saw a fair few people with the X.
It’s also the first time (outside of London) I’ve seen a lot of AirPod users, too.
It’s also the first time (outside of London) I’ve seen a lot of AirPod users, too.
True. I chose the 8+ 256GB. It was $949. That’s $50 from the entry X model.
The issue was never price for me. Other factors made me choose the 8+ over the X.
I had never noticed that FaceID doesn't work when holding the phone in landscape orientation; it's never been an issue for me. In a test I just did, it seems to work at as much as a 45º angle.
I also don't notice FaceID being slow at all, usually an app that uses it has unlocked via my face before I even realize it's doing so. The FaceID icon pops up and is unlocking in about the same time it would have taken me to reposition my thumb anyway.
Notch is such a non-issue, it's ridiculous that people even mention it.
Picking the phone up upside down is probably the only ergonomic issue that I repeatedly hit - no home button makes it hard to know which end is up from feel. I find myself adapting to feeling for the lightening port when taking it out of my pocket so I'm adapting, slowly.
The only other annoyance I have is that the task switching swipe motion is a little hard to get used to, esp force-killing apps.
Some of the reasons I prefer FaceID to TouchID:
- No issues with pruny fingertips while swimming
- Lock screen notification content is hidden until you look at the phone and no need to touch to see them ( i.e. nice when hands are dirty when cooking, which phone on countertop you can just look at the phone to unlock notifications )
- Works with gloves on (not that I need that too often living in north Texas - but will be nice on ski slopes)
I also don't notice FaceID being slow at all, usually an app that uses it has unlocked via my face before I even realize it's doing so. The FaceID icon pops up and is unlocking in about the same time it would have taken me to reposition my thumb anyway.
Notch is such a non-issue, it's ridiculous that people even mention it.
Picking the phone up upside down is probably the only ergonomic issue that I repeatedly hit - no home button makes it hard to know which end is up from feel. I find myself adapting to feeling for the lightening port when taking it out of my pocket so I'm adapting, slowly.
The only other annoyance I have is that the task switching swipe motion is a little hard to get used to, esp force-killing apps.
Some of the reasons I prefer FaceID to TouchID:
- No issues with pruny fingertips while swimming
- Lock screen notification content is hidden until you look at the phone and no need to touch to see them ( i.e. nice when hands are dirty when cooking, which phone on countertop you can just look at the phone to unlock notifications )
- Works with gloves on (not that I need that too often living in north Texas - but will be nice on ski slopes)
No, I am not saying that at all. I am saying they have an appropriate mix of models/price points for all consumers, the data supports that. I also don't think that consumers prefer the legacy models, they just weren't all eager to jump at a $999 price point. If the X were priced at $799 - I bet it would easily be the top selling phone for all of 2018 (it might still be at $999). Lastly, these are just my opinions so of course it means nothing in the grand scheme of things, but your indication that Apple is somehow in trouble in regards to this data, is a bit far fetched. Apple is doing just fine and are setting themselves up for an even better Fall, home button/touch ID or not.
That tells me that 69% of the people still preferred "TOUCH ID"..over Face ID, regardless of how cool Apple spins it in their commercials... I have the 8 Plus and not tempted by animated emoji's to upgrade to X or variation.
I think you misunderstood my post. I don't think Apple is in trouble at all. I think the numbers speak for themselves. People are not ready to adopt the new model iphone and prefer the legacy models more. Some of this is price point and some is people and afraid of change and something new. Some prefer TID and not FID....some like the form factor of the older phones.
Look at my original post....where did i say Apple was in trouble?
I agree. I personally feel the huge phone craze will die off at some point as technology becomes less obtrusive in our lives. I'd like to see an X style iPhone with an overall size of the SE, but a 4.7 inch screen.
I don't think this information is conclusive to supporting any theories at all.
As for Touch ID vs Face ID - I have the iPhone X and I do love it, but I also miss Touch ID. Touch ID was working so good right from the start, and then I think I remember with my 7plus that Touch ID was even faster! Amazing.
I have a 3 year old and it seems that "touch-ID" is definitely instinctual - Face ID is something you have to "learn".
Anyways - I don't think the data tells much - perhaps many customers "buy the wrong iPhone model" based on $$$ or misguided ideas about things actually - it's not all about the Face-ID.
For MANY people - it's about what their lousy phone company tells them they can upgrade to - so they end up coming home with a 2 models outdated iPhone without realizing it.
If Apple did this, my wife or son would be inheriting my X and I'll be getting one of those immediately.
Would they call that the iPhone SE-X?
I apologize if it was somehow misconstrued. It felt like you pointing out that legacy devices still made up a good chunk of sales was somehow an issue for Apple moving forward. I agree that there are likely a large amount of people hesitant to move on from the home button/Touch ID, but I think there is an even larger group of consumers who are more so driven by price in their decisions. I feel that as long as there are options at similar price points as there is today, you'll see people adapt.
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So you were one of the 500 people surveyed to arrive at these results? The sample size seems awfully small to give this study much significance.
Oh ok
They do. iPhone sales are up
Thought they weren’t in trouble.
Only one Face ID device was released last year, and it was priced very high, nonetheless iPhone X penetration is also high due to high sellthrough rates.
Any sources to back up your claims
Any sources to back up your claims
That could be the case, but there are other factors involved. The difference between the X and the 8/8+ is not just touchID. There's a significant price differential. There's the notch. There's the lack of color choice. There's a difference in screen tech.
Personally, I would put the price as a bigger factor in CIRP's data, with touchID as the second factor.
But keep this in mind. No one outside of Apple really knows the exact breakdown by model. This chart is based on a survey of US buyers and is unlikely to be exact. It might be close, but only Apple knows. For all we know, the X may still be the best selling model for each and every week that it's been available. Or maybe not. Only Apple knows. And we'll likely know next Tuesday.
I think the huge phone craze will eventually die off, but not in the same way. Phones will be sized more between an SE and iPhone X, but unfold into a small tablet so we have the best of both worlds. I know some recent sci-fi shows (and MS renders, lol) have been depicting things like this, but I've thought this for a long time. Such a device would be able to integrate wirelessly with large displays to run macOS applications through Marzipan with a desktop interface when connected using a future version of Apple's W series chip. They won't replace desktops entirely, but be used a lot when traveling or out in the field instead of bringing a laptop.
The same W series chip protocols could be used to do the heavy lifting for AR powered glasses as well. The glasses would have cameras, 3D range finding, motion sensors, etc—but the graphical and compute power would come from the wireless display link to the device in the pocket. I think eventually Apple wants the Apple Watch to be able to run something like this, but that's quite a way down the road. This helps keep the headset from needing quite as much battery power and keeps it slim so it looks like a regular pair of glasses. Eventually I think AR overlays will make the need for phone and tablet and maybe even desktop connected devices less important as we progress deeper into the 2030s (though they could possibly connect into desktops or cloud computing for more intensive tasks). Anyway, this is just my personal vision of what I think will happen in the future.
It does? It tells you that singular differentiator is the reason for the difference? Why isn't your conclusion that people prefer LCD screens, or that they prefer bezels? Seems like confirmation bias to me.
Here's a question. If the prices were reversed, do you still think more people would have bought the 8 than the X?
A family friend gave my mother a iPhone 6s Space Gray with 128 GBs of storage. I am so happy for her, because I was saving up to buy an iPhone 8 next year for her. She's been using a crappy feature phone for a while now my brother gave her.
I second that, in spades. As well for the SE, keeping its classic dimensions and build.
All good ideas and definitely sounds feasible. I think we are still a ways away from a phone folding into a tablet, but I do see the value. I just don't think it's right around the corner as some people do.