Apple's iPhone 8 Plus Was the Top Selling iPhone in the U.S. During Q2 2018

[Crzyrio]

You missed the point that the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus were also for sale during this period and quite well still.

HO HO HO!

Doesn't say much for Face ID's popularity. Apparently way more than 55% of people still wanted the Home button after all. All in all, I'd say the huge winner was Touch ID.

Pretty much what I predicted and was laughed at for saying. The Home Button and Touch ID are sound solid tech.

All these new gestures and mistaken touches to me lead to a "bag o' hurt." Too many things to remember. Apple is about simplifying things. Taking the home button away unnecessarily complicates a lot of things in my opinion.

But what do I know? The buyers have spoken.

Tim Cook, the bean counter, should have noticed this. What will happen when there is no Home Button iPhone left in the mix? Hmm.

THey have to start somewhere. Face ID will be better in the long term and the same for the guestures.

Also I think the more important fact was the X sold more than the 8.

With the release of the X+, almost certainly the X & X+ will be the go too.

 

[FFR]

Did you read the thread article?

I did iPhone X sales are fantastic.

So no sources to back up your opinion that people will not upgrade due to fid and no home buttons.

Ok.

 

[karatekidk]

Of those buying the 3 latest models models the breakdown is:

31% iPhone X
45% iPhone 8 Plus
24% iPhone 8

So people chose the X about a third of the time, but the 8 Plus sold almost twice the units of the smaller 8.

Overall, SE sold about as well this year as last, about 8% both years. Well enough to stay in the lineup? It’s probably more popular overseas, so if it does 10% of the overall volume, that’s probably good enough for it to survive since it hits a price point Apple wants to serve.

For whatever the reason is, there seems to be a steady demand for SE, which I have been using for the past year. I really hope to see an updated version of it in near future.

 

[Feenician]

The point is the iPhone X should be priced as the iPhone 8+ and the iPhone 8/8+ should be 200 €$£ cheaper. But they were greedy they thought a lot more people would go crazy about Face ID, Animoji, no bezels and get the damn phone than actually did. Disgusting.

So disgusting you were looking at buying one a month ago?

Should I buy an iPhone X now? We're two months away from the new models but I'm definitely not interested in the LCD model and the Plus version of the X... So I've been thinking whether the new "regular" iPhone X model is worth waiting. What do you think?

 

[macduke]

All good ideas and definitely sounds feasible. I think we are still a ways away from a phone folding into a tablet, but I do see the value. I just don't think it's right around the corner as some people do.

Oh yes definitely, I'm thinking long term. I think the fastest it could possibly happen for mass market is five years and it would probably suck but 10 years or a little after is much more doable.

 

[jamezr]

I did iPhone X sales are fantastic.

So no sources to back up your opinion that people will not upgrade due to fid and no home buttons.

Ok.

Did you comprehend the article.......seems not. Look....stop trolling me. You just want to argue and get into these long back and forth exchanges. so just stop

 

[FFR]

Did you comprehend the article.......seems not. Look....stop trolling me. You just want to argue and get into these long back and forth exchanges. so just stop

You can’t make assertions without any facts and call it trolling.

 

[jamezr]

You can’t make assertions with any fact and call it trolling.

so you didn't comprehend the article then......

 

[Labeno]

Tens or hundreds of millions of devices sold, only 500 people surveyed. Is this a realistic assessment?

 

[santaliqueur]

Doesn't say much for Face ID's popularity. Apparently way more than 55% of people still wanted the Home button after all. All in all, I'd say the huge winner was Touch ID.

You make it sound like all these phones are the same price and the only differentiator is Touch ID/Face ID, and that everyone overwhelmingly chose Touch ID because they wanted that.

Why are you making these assumptions? Face ID is only available on the most expensive phone, and Touch ID is available on all of the rest of the phones Apple makes. It's not like "people wanted the home button so they chose the phone with the home button", they are very likely just buying the phone that meets their budget. Of course you already know all of this.

If you think Touch ID is going to be around after a couple more years, you're fooling yourself.

 

[TheShadowKnows!]

I think the huge phone craze will eventually die off, but not in the same way. Phones will be sized more between an SE and iPhone X, but unfold into a small tablet so we have the best of both worlds. I know some recent sci-fi shows (and MS renders, lol) have been depicting things like this, but I've thought this for a long time. Such a device would be able to integrate wirelessly with large displays to run macOS applications through Marzipan with a desktop interface when connected using a future version of Apple's W series chip. They won't replace desktops entirely, but be used a lot when traveling or out in the field instead of bringing a laptop.

The same W series chip protocols could be used to do the heavy lifting for AR powered glasses as well. The glasses would have cameras, 3D range finding, motion sensors, etc—but the graphical and compute power would come from the wireless display link to the device in the pocket. I think eventually Apple wants the Apple Watch to be able to run something like this, but that's quite a way down the road. This helps keep the headset from needing quite as much battery power and keeps it slim so it looks like a regular pair of glasses. Eventually I think AR overlays will make the need for phone and tablet and maybe even desktop connected devices less important as we progress deeper into the 2030s (though they could possibly connect into desktops or cloud computing for more intensive tasks). Anyway, this is just my personal vision of what I think will happen in the future.

Dude, your vision is just another incantation of a future thin client.

UI customer-facing; parsing and semantics on the backend. With a high-speed connection front/back. With the proviso that graphics interactions must be rendered by the thin client, as close as possible to the face, or latency and jitter will rule.

This cooperative computing model has been in place since last century, with X-Windows, albeit with much less ambitious graphics.

 

[Feenician]

so you didn't comprehend the article then......

Perhaps you could explain what it is in the article you believe says that having touchID/lacking faceID is the reason 8/8+ sold better than X. I don't see it anywhere in the article.

It seems far more likely, and it's mentioned in MR's own editorial, that cost sensitivity is the reason. Also, people looking to buy the flagship are much more likely to wait on the next when it's near.

 

[FFR]

so you didn't comprehend the article then......

I did, did you?

Now do you have any sources to back up your assertions?

Still waiting.

Here some facts.

Q4 2017:
"Stellar" sales for iPhone X in China, best selling phone in the UK”
https://www.phonearena.com/news/iPhone-X-Sales-Q4-2017-results_id101524

Apple iPhone X sales are "stellar" in China and Japan, and it is the best selling phone in the United Kingdom in November, according to research firm Kantar Worldpanel.
The big highlight of this story, however, really is China, the world's biggest phone market, where the iPhone X is performing incredibly well. While switchers to the iPhone X in other markets come from upgraders from earlier iPhones, in China the overwhelming majority of iPhone X buyers come from Android users.


Q1 2018:
“iPhone X beats Galaxy S9 and iPhone 8 to become the best selling phone in Q1”
https://www.indiatoday.in/technolog...e-best-selling-phone-in-q1-1227179-2018-05-05

According to a report by a data analytics firm Strategy Analytics, global smartphone shipment reached 345 million units in the first quarter of 2018 and despite the fear of alienating a lot of users due to its high pricing, Apple's iPhone X became the highest selling smartphone shipping 16 million units across the globe during the quarter.


This quarter:
“Kantar: iPhone makes up 8 out of the 10 best-selling smartphones in Q2 as iOS gains on Android”
https://9to5mac.com/2018/07/24/kantar-iphone-q2-sales/

According to Kantar, iPhone X made up 5.3 percent of all handsets sold in China. This means iPhone X has now been the best-selling smartphone in China every month since its release in November.

So... care to provide some sources for your assertion?

People are not ready to adopt the new model iphone and prefer the legacy models more.

Some of this is price point and some is people and afraid of change and something new. Some prefer TID and not FID....some like the form factor of the older phones.

 

[Shanghaichica]

If they roll out a Mini with modern internals (with or without pencil support), I'm first in line to buy. Else, I cling to the aging Mini with a dose of lingering hope.

AFAIC, if the problem is (too little) profit margin on this model, raise the price up to match it's bigger siblings.

It can’t cost more than the entry level iPad that’s the problem. Which means it has to be priced under $300 and Apple aren’t interested in that market.

Any refresh would mean cutting back on current features. They’d remove the laminated screen and probably use one of the thicker designs to keep costs down.

 

[jamezr]

I did, did you?

Now do you have any sources to back up your assertions?

Still waiting.

Here some facts.

Q4 2017:
"Stellar" sales for iPhone X in China, best selling phone in the UK”
https://www.phonearena.com/news/iPhone-X-Sales-Q4-2017-results_id101524

Apple iPhone X sales are "stellar" in China and Japan, and it is the best selling phone in the United Kingdom in November, according to research firm Kantar Worldpanel.
The big highlight of this story, however, really is China, the world's biggest phone market, where the iPhone X is performing incredibly well. While switchers to the iPhone X in other markets come from upgraders from earlier iPhones, in China the overwhelming majority of iPhone X buyers come from Android users.


Q1 2018:
“iPhone X beats Galaxy S9 and iPhone 8 to become the best selling phone in Q1”
https://www.indiatoday.in/technolog...e-best-selling-phone-in-q1-1227179-2018-05-05

According to a report by a data analytics firm Strategy Analytics, global smartphone shipment reached 345 million units in the first quarter of 2018 and despite the fear of alienating a lot of users due to its high pricing, Apple's iPhone X became the highest selling smartphone shipping 16 million units across the globe during the quarter.


This quarter:
“Kantar: iPhone makes up 8 out of the 10 best-selling smartphones in Q2 as iOS gains on Android”
https://9to5mac.com/2018/07/24/kantar-iphone-q2-sales/
According to Kantar, iPhone X made up 5.3 percent of all handsets sold in China. This means iPhone X has now been the best-selling smartphone in China every month since its release in November.

So... care to provide some sources for your assertion?

Like I said you just want to argue........read the article then read my posts....you are off in left field bring up things I never said or inferred just to argue. Now you bring in Samsung? Why? They had nothing to do with the article or any of my posts.

Just another example of you wanting to argue.
You obviously did not comprehend the article. Most of the iphones sold did not have FID as customers are reluctant to adopt the new technology. I would even say based on the numbers in the article most people LIKE TID. The legacy phones are selling extremely well.

So my source is the article.....maybe you should read it again.....

 

[Feenician]

Like I said you just want to argue........read the article then read my posts....you are off in left field bring up things I never said or inferred just to argue. Now you bring in Samsung? Why? They had nothing to do with the article or any of my posts.

Just another example of you wanting to argue.
You obviously did not comprehend the article. Most of the iphones sold did not have FID as customers are reluctant to adopt the new technology. I would even say based on the numbers in the article most people LIKE TID. The legacy phones are selling extremely well.

So my source is the article.....maybe you should read it again.....

The article makes no claims on the popularity of FaceID or TouchID. That's purely supposition on your part.

 

[DeepIn2U]

I was just doing this yesterday at work. Streaming music all day and listening on earbuds. I don't want to run down my battery when it can be plugged in and earbuds so coworkers don't hear. Bluetooth headphones won't cut it all day.

I understand BT headphones will not work all day. That said you mentioned not running down your battery - yet you may actually be doing just that charging and listening to music. Phone will take slightly longer to charge doing what you wish to do. Nothing wrong just easily solved using a vellón adapter. I have one but I’ve never used it during your scenario. Then again I’m in service desk so I’m bothered whenever someone feels the need to

So for my minimal enjoyment I use Bluetooth headphones off my watch when I can as I barely get the luxury of listening to a full track undisturbed even sometimes during lunch.

 

[FFR]

Like I said you just want to argue........read the article then read my posts....you are off in left field bring up things I never said or inferred just to argue. Now you bring in Samsung? Why? They had nothing to do with the article or any of my posts.

Just another example of you wanting to argue.
You obviously did not comprehend the article. Most of the iphones sold did not have FID as customers are reluctant to adopt the new technology. I would even say based on the numbers in the article most people LIKE TID. The legacy phones are selling extremely well.

So my source is the article.....maybe you should read it again.....

Here is the article:

Older iPhones continued to be popular as well, with the iPhone 7, 7 Plus, SE, 6s Plus and 6s making up 46 percent of sales. Apple's Q2 2018 sales are a deviation from its Q2 2017 sales, where the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus, the flagship phones at that time, made up more than 80 percent of sales.Combined, the iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus made up 37 percent of purchases, far exceeding purchases of the iPhone X, according to CIRP's data.

This is likely attributable to the high price of the iPhone X, with pricing that starts at $999 vs. the iPhone 8's $699 starting price. Given the popularity of the two lower-cost devices, Apple plans to continue offering consumers an affordable option in 2018 with the 6.1-inch LCD iPhone that rumors suggest will be sold alongside more expensive 5.8 and 6.5-inch OLED models.

Here is your post.

People are not ready to adopt the new model iphone and prefer the legacy models more.

Some of this is price point and some is people and afraid of change and something new. Some prefer TID and not FID....some like the form factor of the older phones.

I ask you again where is your source for your opinion above. Those are your words aren’t they?

You can’t just make stuff up and play the victim when call out.

 

[FFR]

The article makes no claims on the popularity of FaceID or TouchID. That's purely supposition on your part.

Thank you.

 

[newellj]

I hope iOS 12 improves the performance on the iPad mini 4. I like its size and usability, it just too slow for my liking running iOS 11.

I had my Mini 4 and Air 2 on 10.3.3, tried the initial public release of 11.0 and went back fast - it was observably slower on both. I took a chance and installed the first developer beta of 12 on the Mini 4 and was very impressed, and it's at least as good or better now. I've had almost no app problems, and performance is really good. Assuming they don't make some change in the public release, 12 is a real upgrade for the Mini 4. Fingers crossed...

 

[jamezr]

The article makes no claims on the popularity of FaceID or TouchID. That's purely supposition on your part.

No it doesn't but look at the numbers....... roughly 75% of phones sold did not have FID. After the new iphones come out in Sept those I expect those numbers with drop
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Here is the article:



Here is your post.





I ask you again where is your source for your opinion above. Those are your words aren’t they?

You can’t just make stuff up and play the victim when call out.

Dude....READ the article....Look at the numbers........try to comprehend them! Geesh....you can lead a horse to water.....

 

[Feenician]

No it doesn't but look at the numbers....... roughly 75% of phones sold did not have FID. After the new iphones come out in Sept those I expect those numbers with drop

One higher priced SKU with FaceID vs. several SKUs at a lower price with TouchID. 8 and 8+ have the same guts as the X too, so more price sensitive users are less compelled to spend more.

Basically the issue is this: If you'd said, "I think these numbers are because FaceID isn't compelling" that'd be an opinion and a starting point for a healthy debate. Instead you asserted your viewpoint as fact, when the numbers presented do not indicate that and have other, equally compelling, explanations. Telling other people that they don't comprehend the statistics when they (and "they" includes the MR editor here) don't agree with that viewpoint isn't useful.

 

[FFR]

No it doesn't but look at the numbers....... roughly 75% of phones sold did not have FID. After the new iphones come out in Sept those I expect those numbers with drop
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Dude....READ the article....Look at the numbers........try to comprehend them! Geesh....you can lead a horse to water.....

Yes and the article clearly states that is because of PRICE and not because of Touch ID/face is or familiarity like you claimed.

Here is the article:

This is likely attributable to the high price of the iPhone X, with pricing that starts at $999 vs. the iPhone 8's $699 starting price. Given the popularity of the two lower-cost devices, Apple plans to continue offering consumers an affordable option in 2018 with the 6.1-inch LCD iPhone that rumors suggest will be sold alongside more expensive 5.8 and 6.5-inch OLED models.

Again this is the article you keep referencing.

Have you even read the article once?

 

[PickUrPoison]

That tells me that 69% of the people still preferred "TOUCH ID"..over Face ID, regardless of how cool Apple spins it in their commercials... I have the 8 Plus and not tempted by animated emoji's to upgrade to X or variation.

I’m sure some of those who bought the 8/8 Plus did so because they wanted TouchID, like you. But many may have just thought the X was too expensive and not “worth it” compared to the 8 series.

 

[HarryWild]

iPad Mini4 still sales of around 18% and it is approaching 4 years without update! Still has A8 inside! Still strong third place selling iPad!