Well, it shows that consumers still have a word to say.
It's somehow reassuring.
It's somehow reassuring.
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Apple's iPhone Air Experiment Fails as Supply Chain Cuts Production by 80%
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The build materials are premium, but they need to use better battery tech (silicon-carbon) at that price, since it’s losing camera features.
Why are people in this forum so quick to try to put down people who actually like the Air? It's so bizarre... maybe they regret not trying the Air and have FOMO?
If you stare directly at it long enough, it is...
A full circle post!
First, you ask why people are putting others down and then you proceed to put them down.
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It needed to be cheaper than it is. It didn't need the A19 Pro, even if binned.
Standard A19 would have run cooler.
Standard A19 would have run cooler.
The problem there is it kills their marketing of “no compromises pro phone but thinner”
Many times - main updates i.e. iOS 16->17 I did via cable after doing full update same when switched to beta train at iOS 17/18 (not touched iOS 26 junk). From time to time I do full backup to Mac, more reliable via cable… which takes ages via lightning on my 11Pro 256GB
About audio - quite common to listen to audiobooks in evening or for ambient audio when going sleep or when playing some meditation on Calm app.
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All these comments about "Regular people", made by individuals who have no knowledge of what anyone outside their own social circle actually wants. The internet is full of experts on "Regular people" now? 🤣
I generally agree about the utility of folding phones, especially if Apple's version provides access to iPad apps in the open state. What I am not sure of is the value, especially if these things for $3000-4000 a pop. Sure, some executives can get really good utility especially if price is no object. For the average user, $3k is a pretty steep hill. I can get an Air and an iPad mini for half that with nearly all of the utility.
So far the foldable market is ~60 MM phones worldwide, 17 MM last year alone. That's four years' worth, the equivalent of one-quarter of 2024's iPhone sales. As a reference point, Apple's total iPad sales for 2024 is nearly the same as the global foldables market, just shy of 17 MM units shipped. This market segment is prone to cannibalism and the Apple foldable is not immune. If the Apple foldable is good enough to replace two devices, I would expect people who can afford to do just that. That's not an instant buy moment though and I don't get the sense that this market is about to explode.
It‘s 20g vs my 15 Pro and about 40g vs 17 Pro. Ain‘t going to feel that in real life, the difference between my individual trousers is bigger than that.
I guess it turned out to be the iPhone Err.
Well, it shows that current consumers have become phone slaves who need all of the battery life and features possible. It's no longer a "want" for them.
It is fine but that's a worrying direction for the whole world in general.
As for the iPhone Air, it is what it is. Apple did not market it right, did not price it right, and it got put down by "influencers" who... unfortunately have way too much influence and no actual competence.
To me, this means the current tech world is way too much of a hive mind asking for basically the exact same thing across all manufacturers.
Welp, there goes the folding iPhone. I guess at this point, Apple should not innovate and should not introduce any new categories. Just keep releasing base and Pro phones with more features and more thickness per year. That's exactly what everyone in this thread seems to be asking for.
Before excessive doom and gloom sets in, I think we should remember that we don’t actually know how Apple will react to this.
Maybe they keep it around on a multi cycle and lower the price a little, and it slowly finds its groove?
Maybe they keep it around on a multi cycle and lower the price a little, and it slowly finds its groove?
Hopefully they release an updated air next year with a better camera and battery. I am enjoying the thin form factor. The battery life doesn't bother me as there are chargers everywhere I go.
As a person who doesn't put a case on any product I appreciate the thinness. Very surprised it hasn't caught on as I feel there has been a shift from needing the largest screen.
As a person who doesn't put a case on any product I appreciate the thinness. Very surprised it hasn't caught on as I feel there has been a shift from needing the largest screen.
It’s a great phone, they just priced it too high, especially considering the value that the base 17 now provides.
This is Apple we are talking about. No chance they lower the price!
They already reacted. Multiple reports of scaling back production. If this is what the reception is for the iPhone Air, we can already tell what kind of reception the folding iPhone will have. Basically... no chance it will ever succeed in the current market.
So it's more doom and gloom for the future of Apple. They finally innovated for once and what do they get? All influencers put down the phone and a large amount of their market do not welcome it. This means everyone is asking Apple to just keep base and Pro lines. Do not ever try to introduce anything else. They will reject it.
I hope so. It would be great if it was improved in following generations especially with a price cut.
Also they need to give more than $0 budget for marketing the air!
You absolutely can! (Called Weber‘s law for why you can feel the difference but not when lifting 10kg vs 10,1kg)
I am just questioning if the gap is meaningful enough for the average user apart from us who love tech.
This. I have always felt the Air was half a folding phone and Apple got it in the hands of customers to learn about issues that may arise with such a thin device. If it caught on in its own right great, but no biggie that it didn’t.
Unfortunately numbers don‘t lie. Not many people are actually buying it. Street prices have already brutally evaporated within one month in Europe. Already 14% cheaper.
Hope this teaches Apple that when they want to do a new form factor they need to go all in instead of trying to protect the pro. Giving this the same pro camera and decent speakers would have improved sales a lot, despite the smaller battery. Let's see if they learn the lesson and the foldable has a pro camera, instead of standard iPhone camera at $2000, just like the Samsung z-fold, where Samsung tries to protect sales of the cheaper ultra