What do you think is the reason for this? Is there a dedicated chip for video output that the Air doesn’t have? Or is it because the Air has one less GPU core?Air doesn't do Video out via USB/Dongle.
17 & 17 Pro do, as per normal.
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Apple's iPhone Air Experiment Fails as Supply Chain Cuts Production by 80%
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Most certainly.
For a company like Apple who's staffed with brilliant engineers, designers, developers and marketers, one would think they would use these vast resources to improve or revamp the Air into a successful product.
It’s certainly not out of the realm of possibilities.
The Air is yet another devices that is breaking new ground. Pricier for what you get? That's the price of ground-breaking technology. It's called "ground-breaking" because it's breaking new ground. Consumers can choose to invest into that, enjoy the benefits of that device, or wait for a price reduction. But for Apple to avoid the Air entirely? That would be a mistake.
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Reduced weight? The Air is 12% heavier than the SE 2020 (and 46% heavier than the SE 2016).
Which is why I bought the 17. It was cheaper too.
I mean, to be fair, while my 17PM likely has that feature, I've connected my phone to a TV via Airplay, much more convenient than connecting a cable ...
It looks like a second generation iPhone Air is becoming much less likely. No surprise that the release of the folding iPhone may be delayed until 2027 or later which may have to do with getting the price lower.
Thinness does not impress me. I prefer this screen size out of all of them, and the battery life was not as terrible as was thought but can't get over the premium price and seemingly mixed reviews of the performance compared to the regular 17 killed it for me.... there is no clear advantage of this phone for me. Had it had the second camera and been only $100 more than the regular I would have considered it.
So just to summarize before I turn the iPad off.
I provided you with:
- a pricing trend over a month showing a high reduction (17%) indicating very bad sales
- actual sale numbers of a major retailer
- compared the sale numbers to the different models in total
- used credible sources
While you provide:
- statements that you are right & I am not
- quoted it is sold out in China & mentioned that nobody knows how many were sold apart from Apple while still not applying the same logic to your own statement, meaning you don‘t know if it is a success in China or not as you have no clue what the numbers are (only Apple) you only know it was sold out on day one
- provided no source whatsoever that had more information than „sold out on day one in China“
The future of the Air is more than likely the Fold.
But to have a future AT ALL, it needs to start selling better. So fingers crossed.🤞🏼
The iPhone 17 is an excellent phone!
Apple has applied years of experience and created an incredibly good phone at a very reasonable price.
If not for the rigorous demands of my work which are met with my Pro Max, I would choose an iPhone 17 without a second thought. It’s an amazing iPhone.
The biggest problem with the iPhone Air still comes down to a conflict between values and cost-performance. I understand what Apple is trying to express — a kind of “just right” minimalism, the philosophy of you probably don’t really need that much. Most of the time, that idea makes sense.
But here’s the issue: Apple has fallen into its old habit again — wrapping simplicity in luxury packaging. And once that happens, comparisons inevitably follow.
Interestingly, the model that best embodies this minimalist philosophy, the iPhone SE, seems to be regarded by Apple as having little commercial value (even though it has long served dutifully as the product line that absorbs leftover component capacity). Yet it still has a loyal and steady group of users.
That’s because the SE’s price and design perfectly match people who genuinely just want something simple that works — and it’s reasonably priced, too. The iPhone Air, however, doesn’t share those same strengths. So if Apple ends up cutting its production significantly, I wouldn’t be surprised at all.
Oh, and by the way — once you put a case on it, there’s really nothing “Air” about it anymore.
But here’s the issue: Apple has fallen into its old habit again — wrapping simplicity in luxury packaging. And once that happens, comparisons inevitably follow.
Interestingly, the model that best embodies this minimalist philosophy, the iPhone SE, seems to be regarded by Apple as having little commercial value (even though it has long served dutifully as the product line that absorbs leftover component capacity). Yet it still has a loyal and steady group of users.
That’s because the SE’s price and design perfectly match people who genuinely just want something simple that works — and it’s reasonably priced, too. The iPhone Air, however, doesn’t share those same strengths. So if Apple ends up cutting its production significantly, I wouldn’t be surprised at all.
Oh, and by the way — once you put a case on it, there’s really nothing “Air” about it anymore.
The thinness is the entire point of the Air. It's a device for those that appreciate that.
Worth noting the first MacBook Air bombed. It was only when it was repositioned as the regular MacBook that it took off, again there's not much of a market for paying more for less, even with a cool form factor. Winding further back you then have the Power Mac G4 Cube, you guessed it, a failure because it cost more than Power Mac and came with less power and features. But damn it did look absolutely gorgeous.
Although the G4 Cube is often regarded as a failed product (its rapid clearance sale was quite a surprise), I actually used one for work for quite a long time. Honestly, I never thought it was any worse than a regular Power Mac G4. The only thing you really had to watch out for was— you know, buddy, get that book off the top of it!
So what evidence do you have to support your argument? You already nullified your argument „of selling out“ by your number quote.
Proof that the sources are fallible. Right now you have nothing to back up your claims.
BTW I also told you to look up other amazon sites of Europe that list the same metric. Which you clearly did not otherwise you would see that it is not only Germany. The by far largest economy of Europe and third biggest of the World.
How about 2mm thicker than the basic iPhone, and fill the space with battery and a slim slot?
How do you explain that the Pro/Max has around 75% of market share of each year’s iPhone lineup? People know it’s the one with the most lenses and best camera. Personally I don’t care a lot about cameras (the 6s one was good enough as far as I’m concerned), but the “average Joe” does.
Apple gear of old that's interesting to me include the G4 Cube with screen and ball shaped speakers. Have that setup in my office. As I remember, I think this was the time of the "Think Different" posters.
I might get an iPhone Air for the same reason. It too is a unique design and incorporates many of the current top of the pile Apple ideas. I would not put it on a data plan and pay cash so no strings would be attached.
The basic appearance design of my iPhone 16 Pro Max is now five or six years old. One has to carefully inspect the cameras on the back to see differences....
Apple has a comparison chart for the iPhones. I used it for my iPhone 16 Pro Max compared to the 15 and 17 similar models. There are not many changes between those three years that could justify getting a new one every time and eating the $2,000 total cost with taxes and Apple care each time.
My 16" M4 MacBook Pro Max (128GB ram and 8TB SSD) is tied now with my M1 Ultra Studio numbers (128GB Ram and 8TB SSD) and nearly the same perfaomace numbers. The laptop could just as easily run my two Mac Studio Displays.
This incremental improvement was not even imaginable back in the Intel processor days. Apple has finally done Steve's dream of going from dust to finished product under their design and control.
As much as many complain, Apple gear is still some of the best out there. You pays your money and takes your chances.
I might get an iPhone Air for the same reason. It too is a unique design and incorporates many of the current top of the pile Apple ideas. I would not put it on a data plan and pay cash so no strings would be attached.
The basic appearance design of my iPhone 16 Pro Max is now five or six years old. One has to carefully inspect the cameras on the back to see differences....
Apple has a comparison chart for the iPhones. I used it for my iPhone 16 Pro Max compared to the 15 and 17 similar models. There are not many changes between those three years that could justify getting a new one every time and eating the $2,000 total cost with taxes and Apple care each time.
My 16" M4 MacBook Pro Max (128GB ram and 8TB SSD) is tied now with my M1 Ultra Studio numbers (128GB Ram and 8TB SSD) and nearly the same perfaomace numbers. The laptop could just as easily run my two Mac Studio Displays.
This incremental improvement was not even imaginable back in the Intel processor days. Apple has finally done Steve's dream of going from dust to finished product under their design and control.
As much as many complain, Apple gear is still some of the best out there. You pays your money and takes your chances.
Then it would be 7.64mm vs 7.95mm on Regular 17
Not really sure there is a need for two models that similar.