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Apple's iPhone Not Likely Soon?

<not serous> OMG. Page not Found. So they will announce something. OMG OMG OMG OMG...</not serous>

We all know what it looks like when they update the store/homepage. I guess the forum here will cover that. Or did you find something on that aprilfool's page that was removed when I looked? If not: You fooled me 🙂
 
Macrumors said:


ThinkSecret reports that Apple's cell phone project has been placed on hold due to "significant technical hurdles" in developing the product.

According to the rumor site, Apple had wanted to develop the cell phone "from the ground up" rather than improving on existing designs. The process, however, was met with technical problems in interfacing the various cell components.

ThinkSecret predicts that the Apple cell phone will not likely come until at least 2007, if not later. This is in the face of numerous predictions by analysts that an Apple iPhone is expected in the next 12 months.
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One of the alleged technical problems seems NOT to be acquisition of a turn-key worldwide telco facility part and parcel with IPTV capability.

Rocketman
 
That was a good April Fools joke. The sad part was that I fell for it even more because I thought Apple took the site down before I had a chance to see the announcement. At least until I saw the URL.
 
I am feeling quite smug! But I know I would probably have clicked it without thinking if someone else had posted it first. 🙂
 
mugwump said:
Apple is absolutely missing out on the mobile marketplace -- the future of computing for many emerging markets.

Apple Mobile OS -- there's already Windows, Linux and Palm, with Palm no longer since it was snapped up by a Japanese firm.

The palm treos are everywhere, the stock is shooting through the roof, and Apple could've been there with any bit of vision. Sheesh, Jobs had to be forced into the mp3 market, but apparently all he saw were PDA's and never realized the phones were getting smarter.

Mobile darwin, iCal, Mail, iChat, Safari, Pages, iTunes -- it's all there and ready for a mobile OS -- where is apple?

It's not about phones, it about mobile computing -- multitasking, multithreaded with a low voltage Intel core dual, mobile spotlight searching.

WHERE IS APPLE FOR MOBILE COMPUTING?

My treo does everything, but is all single tasking with hideous searching. Otherwise, it's a laptop replacement -- the same way the first powerbooks were desktop replacements, though no one realized it for quite some time.
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I think you're on the right track but still haven't seen a greater and more paradigm-shifting potential.

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The future is in a portable device which is able to store everything about your life. (not the 'mobile computer' in today's sense)

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The mobile phone is almost ubiquitous (vastly more so than the iPod). It is seen in the industry as the practical solution for the 'life' device mentioned above.

Apple is visionary enough to see this (as well as many other visionary people) and is taking the necessary strategic steps to be the number one producer of that 'life' device (iPod).

iPod isn't just meant for music. Think different.
 
ebunton said:
I think you're on the right track but still haven't seen a greater and more paradigm-shifting potential.

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The future is in a portable device which is able to store everything about your life. (not the 'mobile computer' in today's sense)

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The mobile phone is almost ubiquitous (vastly more so than the iPod). It is seen in the industry as the practical solution for the 'life' device mentioned above.

Apple is visionary enough to see this (as well as many other visionary people) and is taking the necessary strategic steps to be the number one producer of that 'life' device (iPod).

iPod isn't just meant for music. Think different.
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Amen.
 
Mobile Darwin would be a mistake - maybe that was the "technical difficulty"

mugwump said:
Mobile darwin, iCal, Mail, iChat, Safari, Pages, iTunes -- it's all there and ready for a mobile OS -- where is apple?
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IMO it would be a mistake for Apple to try to build the whole stack - porting Darwin to XScale architecture and mobile hardware would be a huge undertaking. They'd be starting from scratch in a very different world from the hardware that is currently under Darwin.

It would be much smarter, simpler and faster (again, IMO) to transplant a subset of the Carbon/Cocoa frameworks on top of an embedded Linux that already runs on smartphone hardware. A market leader in this space is Monte Vista (http://www.mvista.com/products/mobilinux/features.html).

OSX is layered on a Unix-like foundation, layering MOSX (Mobile OSX) on a proven mobile Unix-like foundation would make more sense (except to certain Egos) than trying to start from scratch.
 
cafc:mac said:
For people who don't see how an Apple phone connects to the Mac strategy, what if the phone was a mobile phone that could do all of the things 'regular' mobiles do, but run iTunes (Music, video clips), sync with Mail (send/receive email?) and Address Book, control Front Row (remote) and, most innovative of all, connect with iChat to provide VOIP services.
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Sounds great but that wouldn't make it a success. Unless they provide the same functionality for Windows, it will be a marginal success like the iPod was before Windows compatibility.
 
BWhaler said:
Dropped calls...
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Apple would have the same problems. Do you think they will use their own network (insanely expensive to build) or use an existing one?

BWhaler said:
Crappy battery...
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Long battery life is not exactly Apple's forte.

BWhaler said:
Functionality that only the carriers want...
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Didn't Apple invent this? They are famous for crippling certain products to move demand to higher end ones.

BWhaler said:
Impossible to figure out (easily) the phone's functionality.
The terrible operating systems that ship with most of them (Sony Ericsson is not bad, but not great either.)
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Apple would indeed shine here.

BWhaler said:
And my favorite...the 400 "branding opportunities" carriers shove down our throats. If I have never have to look at a Cingular logo again, I'll be happy.
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Apple would do the same.

I don't see a lot of positives for Apple entering this very crowded market. Just too expensive to build their own network. If they use an existing one, do you think the carrier would allow Apple to offer everything but the kitchen sink and leave their products in the dust?

If Apple were to enter the market, I'd like to see them do it as a OS provider for all takers.
 
supermacdesign said:
I just don't see any reason Apple needs to produce a phone. How does this sell more iMacs or Computers. Can anyone think of a reason?
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It comes will Bill Gates' phone number on speed dial, for easy pranking. 😀
 
Personally Im glad its taking a long time. That means they are doing it right. I hate my nokia / cingular phone and hope this product is worth the wait.
 
Apple simply must bring out an iphone, they don't really have a choice. Unless they want to throw away it all.

I am disspointed in all the mobile makers and they all have basically products which don't work properly. One thing which has always impressed me about apple is the fact that their stuff always works, the way it says so on the box. I have one of the new generation of mp3 player phones (a nokia) but quite frankly its laughable compred with itunes and as a bonus it doesn't work properly as a phone either.

I think a tie up with motorolla is wrong as in my opinion they are one of the worst offenders in the mobile market. What we need is a a new imaginative, well engineered, well de bugged apple iphone.

Its quite refreshing for a manufacture not to cynically use the market place to debug their products. Like many people I would gladly wait if they bring this thing out without any glitches.

Its not if, its when its released.I WANT ONE!.
 
nathan2301 said:
Sorry if this has been posted somewhere else

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3168733759916419298

Yes I know its not real, looks kinds cool though.
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This is awesome. Thank you for posting, because I have not seen it before, it would definately fall under the concept of building a phone from the ground up, despite the fact that the technology is available in other products. I'll buy two.

🙂

BTW- I'm cruising with an expired two year contract with AT&T wireless waiting for Apple to put out a phone. Hopefully they will go with AT&T/Cingular so I can renew my contract with a new phone.
 
Apple need this now. I was going to buy an ipod but when I upgraded my mobile I went for a nokia 6280 which also has a 2megapixel camera, a radio and an mp3 player. the sound is excellent but the mp3 software is woeful-its quite frankly an embarresment to nokia. From using itunes on my PC I know how good it is and its obvious how bad the nokia is. But they will get better. I don't want the itunes music store, all I want to do is convert my cd's to mp3's and put them on a player. It does me fine and apple have lost a sale-I'm not the only one though I'm sure. Apple for your own sake get this phone out.
 
Disney

Apple will not compete with Disney unless it folds on the phone service.

Disney has phones and plans for launching phone service this June. Apple will finish a better phone (1 year later) that for some reason Disney will sell - and rightfully so because it will be the best phone anyone has ever seen (*).

Steve Jobs is my hero - someone who can set aside the past, allow others to compete and still come out far beyond anyone's expectations.

Apple will make a phone for their service if anything - 2 models or lines - iPhone pro and iPhone (assuming the Mac Book will be the lower end line of Mac Book Pro)

This is the last bit of my god-given gift of insight/understanding I will ever share about Apple's future with anyone unless you are any of the 2.99 men named Steve. I am going to become a full apple developer and going to go through all apple certification training programs and invest in thousands of apple computers (and their stock).


I'm sorry for this, but it has to be said after reading apple's mild boot camp comments...

* unless you still like windows, in which case you'd prefer the "L337 XPh0n3" where every program has it's own bad implementation of a mail reader, web browser, address book, spell checker, calendar, etc due to a misunderstanding of the whole purpose of the device and a lack of good API's. It's best features include a decent game back-end that everyone was tricked into supporting, internet exploder, 100+ open source backdoors (note to paris hilton - stay away), sync'n'pray and last but not least the BSOD on your no-longer-supported-phone to be rendered into a paperweight - causing you to budget for a iPhone (no XPh0n3 emulation needed this time). Please flame me privately if you must do so.
 
wow

jvicinanza said:
I suggest you visit www.iphone.org.

cheers

Jason
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can somebody explain to me whats going on? wont apple register a bunch of names just in case they will release in the future? this doesnt necassarily mean that they will be releasing a phone anytime soon does it?.......
 
thecheda said:
can somebody explain to me whats going on? wont apple register a bunch of names just in case they will release in the future? this doesnt necassarily mean that they will be releasing a phone anytime soon does it?.......
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No, it doesn't... But, it's expensive to register trademarks that you aren't using and you have to renew the "intent-to-use" every six months. After the first extension, you have to "show cause" for the application to be extended. And then you only get 4 more opportunities (for a total of three years) before you have to start over and all your competitors know how and what you think about.

Generally, corporations don't like to register trademarks they never intend to use. But as we all know, Apple doesn't act like most corporations.
 
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