Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Maybe I completely lack vision but this doesn't just feel like a category upsetting breakthrough like the iPhone or iPod was. Is a potential iWatch the kind of thing no one realized they had to have?...

To be fair, the pre-announcement iPhone rumors and speculation didn't really make it feel like a category upsetting breakthrough either.
 
Apple needs a hit more than a crackhead, too bad this iwatch thingy isn't it. Honestly the whole iwatch and itv things scream of desperation, but desperate times call for desperate measures and Apple is throwing turds against the wall hoping something will stick.

----------

I can guarantee you the iwatch will be a big guady pretentious ugly pos that's gonna look stupid on peoples wrists. Nobody wears watches anymore anyway, but man Apple is really desperate these days with their stock taking a beating daily only the fanboys think an iwatch is a good idea.
 
What problem does this watch solve?

The iPod didn't solve any problem for me. I had a Sony AM/FM/cassette Walkman for my music. But the iPod made it possible for me to have my entire music collection with me at all times, which was great.

The iPhone didn't solve any problem for me. I had a basic Nokia cell phone, a Palm PDA, and a compact digital camera, all of which were portable. But the iPhone integrated the functionality of all three of them and added even more functionality via apps.

The iPad didn't solve any problem for me. But it made certain things I'd been doing on my Mac even more convenient.

I expect something similar from the iWatch. This is the sort of thing Apple traditionally has excelled at. Every time a new product is rumored, this forum is filled with postings from people saying what a stupid idea it is, that it will never sell, and that Apple is doomed. When the product finally is released, it's usually a huge hit, and it ends up doing things that nobody had thought about before. Sometimes it takes two or three generations for those additional functions to be realized. I've learned to take a "wait and see" attitude with Apple products, rather than dismiss anything out of hand.

One concern I have regards price and usable lifespan. I upgrade my Mac every five years now, and my iPhone and iPad every two years. My wife does the same. Yes, it's a choice, but for us to add an iWatch to the list of items that we integrate into our lives, then it will need to be pretty compelling, especially if if we'll need to drop $200 or so every two years, if we want to keep up with the technology.

I imagine there will be a good after-market for third-party wrist bands: leather, metal, etc.
 
How much can be accomplished with such a small screen? Sceptical...

Recent patents from apple suggest that Iwatch screen will extend along or merge with the wristband. And now I think it really coming. You can see your notifications/texts/etc without pulling iPhone out of pocked or hand bag and answer using siri, activated by placing your hand near head. Hold the wrist close to your head or use speakerphone feature to dictate and talk. Market for elegant implementation of such device is big.
 
Last edited:
The iPod didn't solve any problem for me. I had a Sony AM/FM/cassette Walkman for my music. But the iPod made it possible for me to have my entire music collection with me at all times, which was great.

The iPhone didn't solve any problem for me. I had a basic Nokia cell phone, a Palm PDA, and a compact digital camera, all of which were portable. But the iPhone integrated the functionality of all three of them and added even more functionality via apps.

The iPad didn't solve any problem for me. But it made certain things I'd been doing on my Mac even more convenient.

I expect something similar from the iWatch. This is the sort of thing Apple traditionally has excelled at. Every time a new product is rumored, this forum is filled with postings from people saying what a stupid idea it is, that it will never sell, and that Apple is doomed. When the product finally is released, it's usually a huge hit, and it ends up doing things that nobody had thought about before. Sometimes it takes two or three generations for those additional functions to be realized. I've learned to take a "wait and see" attitude with Apple products, rather than dismiss anything out of hand.

One concern I have regards price and usable lifespan. I upgrade my Mac every five years now, and my iPhone and iPad every two years. My wife does the same. Yes, it's a choice, but for us to add an iWatch to the list of items that we integrate into our lives, then it will need to be pretty compelling, especially if if we'll need to drop $200 or so every two years, if we want to keep up with the technology.

I imagine there will be a good after-market for third-party wrist bands: leather, metal, etc.

Clearly you dont understand what problem means in this situation. Since you pointed it out in your post after rejecting there ever was one.
 
Clearly you dont understand what problem means in this situation. Since you pointed it out in your post after rejecting there ever was one.

My wife does not carry iPhone around 2 story home as her clothes do not have suitable pockets. When text or phone call comes she has to find/walk toward the phone and it happens multiple times a day
 
Hard enough that wristwatches outsell pocket watches by several orders of magnitude. I see lots of guys in suits with automatic watches. Enough to make it still a multi-Billion dollar business. When was the last time you saw anybody with a wind-up pocket watch (outside of a museum or steampunk party)?
these days people only wear watches for style purposes and nothing more

----------

Umm... Your device has to be plugged into a computer in order to jailbreak it. And if it is plugged into said computer, then it can be very easily restored to working condition with iTunes.




Ahem...
Image

These pocket watches existed centuries before their wrist mounted counterparts. By your argument wrist watches should have never taken off at all.
oh somebody needs a sarcasm detector
 
I already look like a DORK. Why do I need this watch to publicly PROVE IT? LOL

Seriously, I doubt Steve Jobs would approve that square pictured watch.

It's not cool looking at all. It just SCREAMS DORK!

People would get beat up in the locker room at the gym more than they already are. LOL

The only way this will work is if it's round and stylish or sporty, hiding an otherwise insanely great product.

That pic is an epic fail.
 
I remember when this site was about Apple computers...:(

I vividly remember the Apple days prior to when a "mac" computer was something to even have a rumor about. Nothing beats the fun of the original Frogger game, Castle Wolfenstein, etc. Back when computer games were in their infancy.
 
This thing COULD take off, but it needs to be compatible with Android phones, just like the iPod and iTunes are compatible with Windows PCs. The iPhone doesn't have enough market share, and it will never reach the same level that the iPod has. Since a smart watch will need a phone to be fully functional (i.e. to have Internet access), Apple needs to accept the reality that the war for market share is lost.
 
They should release it with some bluetooth headphones and get rid of iPod nano. The watch should become the new iPod nano with even more capabilities such as running apps etc. Then it'd really make sense as a product.
 
considering how many people bought wristbands for their previous-generation iPod Nano's I think there's a pretty good market for it, especially if it intelligently integrates with your iPhone.

How many people DID buy wristbands for their Nanos? Are there any hard numbers out there?
 
So what is done wrong on this Android smart watch that already does everything the Apple iWatch is rumored to?

For one, it's not taking up square footage in stores that sell more per square foot than Tiffany & Co. Second, more women would rather have Jonathan Ive's team design their fashion accesories. For another, it likely doesn't integrate as well with iOS apps and ecosystem, where lots of customers have a lot of previous investments.
 
that's messed up. my iPhone 5 lasts the whole day. i charge it every night, but even when i forget, it makes it through the next day.

ok, try this, from a full charge, disconnect at 6:30am, watch streaming, non-wifi video until 8:00am, then play 30mins of a game such as real racing 3 (3D high processor usage), now, from 9am to the end of the day at 19:30 when you can re-dock, use another 2hrs of streaming video over the air, make at least 5 30 mins long calls, send 25 texts and 10 emails, Spend around 30mins reading emails and spend a further 45mins googling technical information for various server related issues,

without charging at 19:30, Blutooth off, GPS on "automatic", wifi on, screen brightness set to 40%ish

my Samsung Galaxy S2 lasts me around 21hrs at this usage level, the iPhone 5, dead by 11am, if i was lucky to get that far,

Add to that the Frustration that having to carry a non-standard cable around, or an adapter so i can use a micro usb to charge and its just too much hassle, so i carry an iPad mini, which DOES last all day (around 40% charge by the time i get home) and use an android phone, that, you know, just works...
 
ok, try this, from a full charge, disconnect at 6:30am, watch streaming, non-wifi video until 8:00am, then play 30mins of a game such as real racing 3 (3D high processor usage), now, from 9am to the end of the day at 19:30 when you can re-dock, use another 2hrs of streaming video over the air, make at least 5 30 mins long calls, send 25 texts and 10 emails, Spend around 30mins reading emails and spend a further 45mins googling technical information for various server related issues,

without charging at 19:30, Blutooth off, GPS on "automatic", wifi on, screen brightness set to 40%ish

my Samsung Galaxy S2 lasts me around 21hrs at this usage level, the iPhone 5, dead by 11am, if i was lucky to get that far,

Add to that the Frustration that having to carry a non-standard cable around, or an adapter so i can use a micro usb to charge and its just too much hassle, so i carry an iPad mini, which DOES last all day (around 40% charge by the time i get home) and use an android phone, that, you know, just works...

Did you really just type that? Really?
 
This is not a situation unique to a smart watch.

Portable things run on batteries. Batteries hold finite charge. Deal with it.

Really, now. How many times in your life has your watch ran out of batteries? Maybe once every 2 years or more (or never for some)? You think that's going to be the case with an iWatch? Looks like you're the one who's going to have to deal with it, very often too.

The iWatch defeats the very reasoning of having a watch, which is to deliver an uncompromisingly reliable tell of the time. A strict Knowledge of the correct time 24/7 is the very job of a watch and the iWatch will be unable to reliably deliver this. It's a great idea, a wearable computer. But don't pass it off as a time-telling substitute. That is, buy one for your non-watch wrist.
 
Last edited:
Really, now. How many times in your life has your watch ran out of batteries? Maybe once every 2 years or more (or never for some)? You think that's going to be the case with an iWatch? Looks like you're the one who's going to have to deal with it, very often too.

While it may be called an "Iwatch" I'm willing to believe that will be one of it's lesser functions. They are making this to be an extension of your phone or iPod. so you can access text or notifications, change music, and security reasons. So I don't think it is unreasonable to have to charge it every 4-5 days or even every night if it came down to that.
 
This thing COULD take off, but it needs to be compatible with Android phones, just like the iPod and iTunes are compatible with Windows PCs. The iPhone doesn't have enough market share, and it will never reach the same level that the iPod has. Since a smart watch will need a phone to be fully functional (i.e. to have Internet access), Apple needs to accept the reality that the war for market share is lost.

iTunes isn't compatible with Android though. What you are saying isn't necessarily false, it just won't happen. Apple needs to provide enough functionality in the watch where it can do enough without the need for another device.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.