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Apple's Jonathan Ive Considering Moving Back to England?

I love the economy of words of brkov. Like it or not, we have seen an amazing, an awesome decade or so of Apple under the leadership of Steve Jobs. Nobody, I really mean, nobody is going to care about the brand, the customer or the product as Steve Jobs has. I have my difference of opinion about his stubbornness to destroy the Jackling's house, but I have no doubt about his contribution on Next, and Apple and Pixar. It is pretty much "Genius" with uppercase, and this is not fanboy talk. However, nature is taking its course and it might seem as if Jobs is facing a very uncertain future (euphemism for he is likely dying). I wouldn't blame Ive or anybody else if they would jump ship right about now. It is the life of Silicon Valley, you don't want to be caught wrong footed in such an Earth shaping event.

All in all I would wish Steve Jobs could live forever and keep churning such nice products, but we have to contend with a company and a line of products that is so closely tied to a person. Anyway, let's hope that Apple is like KFC and can live and prosper long after the cherished leader is gone.
 
It's funny how so many posters are saying he will find work minutes after leaving Apple. As if he's leaving a job at Dominoes.

I'm pretty sure he has enough to live on for the rest of his life.
 
brkov said:
Leaving the (slowly) sinking ship...
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Could be true. Bertrand Serlet has been systematically selling his stock off for the past year or so, once a month. At his current rate I think he would have sold everything he has in a few months. In case people don't know he heads up OSX development.

I can imagine these old timers not wanting to stick around if Steve isn't there anymore. I mean, where do you go from there, especially if you never have to work another day in your life?

Edit: Here are his selling patterns. He has about 100,000 shares left. At once to twice a month it could take 5 months to a year or so, taking variation into account. That can't possibly be out of the blue right? He is one of the largest individual shareholders in the company. Or it could just be wanting to cash out a huge sum of money and that's it.

http://biz.yahoo.com/t/42/4171.html
 
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ive has invented a design-language that can also be used by others. most of the products have actually not changed much since years, and i am sure that some of the strange design decissions (like closing the imac completely, harddisk removal via removing the glass on the screen) were not made by him. most of the design was probably not even made by him, but his design team. you can be sure that his team consists of at least 20 very, very talented people that he teached within the last years.

but the real problem is, that HE is the face of that all and if he goes, people will not swallow every design as if it is from him. it's like with steve jobs: if apple releases a reduced and nearly unusable ipod nano and jobs shows it to the people, they say: cool. if the same product would be released by philips or samsung, everyone would say: "naaah, apple would never release such a user interface desaster!".

so maybe ives should have not said his leave so loud. i am sure that no one would have noticed anything, if he'd just go to england for a veeeeeeery long holiday. and even if apple would all of a sudden invent a pink aluminum ipad in the shape of a heart, we'd think it's from mr. ive and love it!
 
Bodypainter said:
ive has invented a design-language that can also be used by others. most of the products have actually not changed much since years, and i am sure that some of the strange design decissions (like closing the imac completely, harddisk removal via removing the glass on the screen) were not made by him. most of the design was probably not even made by him, but his design team. you can be sure that his team consists of at least 20 very, very talented people that he teached within the last years.

but the real problem is, that HE is the face of that all and if he goes, people will not swallow every design as if it is from him. it's like with steve jobs: if apple releases a reduced and nearly unusable ipod nano and jobs shows it to the people, they say: cool. if the same product would be released by philips or samsung, everyone would say: "naaah, apple would never release such a user interface desaster!".

so maybe ives should have not said his leave so loud. i am sure that no one would have noticed anything, if he'd just go to england for a veeeeeeery long holiday. and even if apple would all of a sudden invent a pink aluminum ipad in the shape of a heart, we'd think it's from mr. ive and love it!
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Yes! Someone who gets it! I have long said Apple will not be the media darlings without Steve Jobs around, and they will be judged FAR MORE on their merit than they are now. Jobs is the Master Salesmen, the one who can convince someone that something that is greatly lacking is actually a benefit to your life. Imagine if Schiller or Cook got up to debut the iPad. It would have been laughed out of the room by the media, so to speak. When Jobs goes, Apple begins it's slow descent into a "normal tech company", and they will have to really deliver serious value and quality to continue to be lavished with praise.

Not that this is a bad thing, I like Apple a lot, but they need to be held accountable to the same standards as every other company.
 
Bodypainter said:
so maybe ives should have not said his leave so loud. i am sure that no one would have noticed anything, if he'd just go to england for a veeeeeeery long holiday. and even if apple would all of a sudden invent a pink aluminum ipad in the shape of a heart, we'd think it's from mr. ive and love it!
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I'm sorry LOL, but where has IVE said "yes I am 100% leaving Apple" this is just tabloid garbage, I never Listen to the Daily Mail, its so dman bias it likes to spread lies and make up trash, it said Steve Jobs was on a five year leave of absence, where has that been confirmed? I think they should rename it as the daily fail?
 
moxxey said:
I think this is a daft statement. Have you seen the design process for the speakers and other products?

Just because the TVs uses a Samsung LCD - just like the iPhone and iPad - it doesn't been that the rest of the products are from other people. Do some research.

Besides, nothing like Apple using Intel chips and other components then, is it?
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It's not just the LCD though is it. It's the whole television. All the Stereo equipment used to be Philips. NOt sure if it still is. All B&O do is put a different piece of plastic on it with their name on it. Then double or treble the price.

On second thoughts your right they are just like Apple.
 
Apple OC said:
and in business ... anyone and everyone is re-placeable.
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Yes, Ive and Jobs can both be replaced, but whether they can be replaced by people with similar drive, ambition, vision and creative ability is a completely different argument... If jonathan was just the designer there would be no reason why he couldn't work from the UK, after all, this is 2011... But I suspect he is so much more than that... In the same way steve is all over every aspect of his company, I've always seen Jonathan as the same with his designs... He would be a hard man for them to replace...
 
TennisandMusic said:
Jobs is the Master Salesmen, the one who can convince someone that something that is greatly lacking is actually a benefit to your life. Imagine if Schiller or Cook got up to debut the iPad. It would have been laughed out of the room by the media, so to speak. When Jobs goes, Apple begins it's slow descent into a "normal tech company"
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well said. when steve passes away, apple will descend into mediocrity just as it did in the '80s when they fired him... mark my words.

jobs = apple.
 
marksman said:
With all its cash couldn't Apple just buy England and move it closer to California?
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+1 Actually, Ive already has a worthy 53-acre campus of his own in UK. Let the man go home if he wants. Isn't that why he put the camera on the iMac, MacBooks and iPhones?
 
Wait, Steve Jobs isn't Apple's only employee? You'd never know it from reading these forums, his name is interchanged with Apple's name so frequently.

Apple should let Ive work from wherever he wants if they value him that much. Just pay him so he doesn't get hired by someone else.
 
I haven't read all 300+ posts, so I am bound to be repeating many people, but, the Daily Mail is possibly the worst newspaper the UK has to offer and talks absolute rubbish all of the time. Basically, what this probably means is that Ive is about to sign a lifetime contract. I really wouldn't worry.

Besides, an Apple UK centre wouldn't be such a bad thing. We have some pretty good people over here, and they wouldn't be disctracted by the good weather and beautiful people! ;)
 
One should be extremely wary of anything reported by the Daily Mail. But if there's no smoke without fire, then Apple could consider moving to Somerset. I can see it now: "Designed by Apple in Glastonbury".
 
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Maybe he feels with €18 mil in the bank he doesn't need Apple anymore and wants to spend his time with his family rather than deal with the suits for which he has been for the last 20 years.
 
Well, if Mr. Ive wants to go back to his homeland, he knows the terms of his contract with Apple. Regardless if others think it's fair or not, he signed an agreement. If he wants to go home, he is already very, very rich and accomplished. Happiness is worth more than a prison, IMO.
 
He's going to leave sooner or later... does it make a difference if he leaves now? Apple should just start a UK branch if they don't wanna work remotely.
 
Thermonuclear said:
If I were Ive, I'd tell Apple to shove it and I'd be on the next plane to the UK.

Ive would have five job offers before his plane landed.

This reports sounds like yet another poor decision by Apple. For the past several years, each release of new hardware and OS/X seem to have as their prime objective the migration of consumers to new hardware when existing hardware (and software) would do just fine with a little more Apple support. But there's not much profit in supporting last year's products, is there?

And I'll come out and say it: this has the stink of Jobs all over it, just like too many other Apple directives made to support a monopoly that looks more and more like Microsoft's every passing day.

But Jobs will be dead soon, if appearances are any clue. What will happen then? Improvements, one hopes. Maybe Apple will at last have a CEO that isn't obsessive about taking credit for the work of others and then forcing them out the back door.
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Apple's monopoly is bigger than Microsoft's. Apple has become what it once abhorred. Remember when Apple stood for choice? Remember the criticism of IBM and Microsoft? Jobs is a hypocrite.
 
He needs to step out of Steve's shadow and be more individual...no more being Jobs' 'mini-me' in Apple trademark black T shirt and jeans.
 
Let the man go home. My desire for Apple products is not as important as a person's happiness. Even with all his millions, sometimes there's just no place like home. With Steve Jobs seemingly out the door and possibly Ive as well, there is reason to be concerned about the future of Apple as we now know it, but life is too short to worry too much about the future of a technology company. Go call your family or have a drink with friends.
 
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