Apple's Jonathan Ive Considering Moving Back to England?

[arn]

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It's from the sunday times

"The Sunday Times reports that Apple designer Jonathan Ive and the Apple's board of directors are said to be at an impasse about his future. The British designer is said to want to spend more time in the UK while Apple's board seems unwilling to allow that. The report comes by way of The Daily Mail and Cult of Mac as the original article appears to behind a paywall."


So all the information again was just a repost
So Arn, Did you read what you posted.

The Sunday Times Reported what the "The Daily Mail" & Cult of Mac Said, What so hard to understand.

prowlmedia was correct, The Sundays Times Just Said what The Daily Mail Said, What so hard to understand that they are reporting on a 3rd party Source,The Sunday Times Reported what the "The Daily Mail" Said and nothing else but that. Nothing New as was pointed out since the information was taken from the DailyMail it is not to be trusted and links had been given to show that mistrust in the reporting of that source that the Sunday Times made it's story about, using only the The Daily Mail and the Cult of Mac to write a Story on.

Quote: From the DailyMail
"However, despite the 'rock star' status Essex-born Ive has in the design world, with his work lauded by peers and used by millions around the world, the newspaper said his desire to 'commute' from his £2.5m manor house in Somerset was being opposed by bosses at the technology company, who want him to stay in the U.S."


The Sunday Times is a Repost of the Daily Mail so prowlmedia is Correct.

So The Information and Source "Daily Mail" that prowlmedia had said is not to be trusted.
It Doesn't make The Sunday Time A trusted Source if they get information from a Bad Source as the Post was trying to get across.

You have it backwards.

The Sunday times is the original source.

 

[*LTD*]

This... is really depressing. This is the man who truly revitalized Apple-- he came to Jobs with his resignation letter in his pocket, but Jobs gave him permission to simply do something great, and he came up with the iMac. This man is the reason Apple is the success it is today-- I can't imagine the iPhone being what it is today if it were encased in beige plastic and were three times as thick. This man holds my dream job. I wrote a college entrance essay about this man, about the ubiquitousness of his work, about his drive and passion, about how he was my role model, about how I aspired to be him. And now this.

This is possibly more depressing, to me, than the news of Jobs' passing will be. All Jobs' passing will bring is a temporary stock drop and a bit more openness. But this, unless Ive has some truly brilliant designers working under him, could ruin the company.

You might want to wait until this story is confirmed before leaping from your window. Right now it smells like baloney.

If he is to leave, however, he is to leave. And Apple *will* make do without him. Because they must. It's that simple. There is a lot of talent out there. Apple knows how to harness it. The also-rans don't. Don't forget that.

 

[xnu]

He joined Apple in 1992. What are you on about?

"After graduating in 1989 from Newcastle Polytechnic, an art school in Northeast England, Ive formed an industrial design consultancy called Tangerine. He spent the next three years designing everything from TVs to hair combs to bathroom fixtures. While he found such diversity "seductive," he says he never felt truly effective as a consultant; he needed a focus. He joined Apple in 1992. His design team, a tiny group handpicked by him, spent its first few years working on "studies" and then several incarnations of the Apple Newton--and watching the company stray off course. In late 1997, he says, everything changed: Steve Jobs returned and put everybody to work on his idea for a compact home computer. One of the highlights of Ive's year: consulting with candymakers about how to reproduce the iMac's translucent casing."

http://www.time.com/time/digital/cyberelite/44.html

 

[roha]

do I hear a ivy bridge?

 

[Dr Kevorkian94]

i dont think think he will just get up and quit. i'm sure they will work something out. maybe he will leave and they will ask him to consult or help out a bit. or lastly they could give him some more time off.

 

[Kebabselector]

Troll...

Troll, how. They lived in New Jersey. Had a child in the US and wanted to move back for the reason I stated.

 

[Full of Win]

This... is really depressing. This is the man who truly revitalized Apple-- he came to Jobs with his resignation letter in his pocket, but Jobs gave him permission to simply do something great, and he came up with the iMac. This man is the reason Apple is the success it is today-- I can't imagine the iPhone being what it is today if it were encased in beige plastic and were three times as thick. This man holds my dream job. I wrote a college entrance essay about this man, about the ubiquitousness of his work, about his drive and passion, about how he was my role model, about how I aspired to be him. And now this.

This is possibly more depressing, to me, than the news of Jobs' passing will be. All Jobs' passing will bring is a temporary stock drop and a bit more openness. But this, unless Ive has some truly brilliant designers working under him, could ruin the company.

I'm sure the hundreds of designers at Apple are just there to take up space.

 

[*LTD*]

For all you towering intellects that are screaming "Facetime!" and remote meetings and "how come Apple won't let him work long-distance and send things in electronically" and whatnot . . . I'm pretty sure this isn't lost on Apple. Duh!

 

[smulji]

You might want to wait until this story is confirmed before leaping from your window. Right now it smells like baloney.

If he is to leave, however, he is to leave. And Apple *will* make do without him. Because they must. It's that simple. There is a lot of talent out there. Apple knows how to harness it. The also-rans don't. Don't forget that.

For the most I agree with you but...is the talent that is out there as highly skilled & imaginative as Ive. As much as I'd like to stay positive I'm doubtful.

 

[lazymocha]

This simply shows that working for Apple is just like working for Foxconn, you can't get out if you are critical for the business. (design vs. production, both Apple needs)

I would imagine that if John really needs to leave the company, Apple will make him sign a deal to ban him for working in any IT firm.

 

[Slurpy2k8]

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apple is getting annoying and sound more and more evil. he's done a great job. let him do the work as he pleases.

Out of curiosity, when you say 'apple', wh the hell are you referring to? Apple isn't sentient, it's made up of individuals. And as individuals go, Jonathan Ives is near the top of the food chain, having only a handful of people at most who outrank him. Who who is evil, exactly? Steve Jobs? Tim Cook? Who is 'Apple'? You have no idea if this story is even true or not, nor the context of the situation if it is. Some responses here are so cartoonish and childish. Grow up.

 

[skipx]

Like the iPad delay rumors, Steve death watch, and various other ******** stories, this smells like an attempt at market manipulation. Looks like some hedge funds placed a few shorts and want to cash in.

I agree, feels like press release from a company (or person) who want to simply make money by bringing 'bad' news, buy stocks, and sell when is announced that the guy does not leave..

 

[JulianL]

Whys this a problem? Everyone's talking about this as if it's all or nothing. I spent a few years based in the UK but spending 2 weeks of every month in the US (two 1 week trips a month) and I'm a nobody compared to Ive wrt the budget available. With video conferencing and other comms mechanisms, plus flying him to CA a couple of times a month, I would have thought that he could still fulfill his role.

- Julian

 

[jayducharme]

Those that think Apple should let Ive go should watch this:
http://vimeo.com/7324647

(It's from the movie Objectified)

Great video clip. Thanks for the link.

I agree with many here who feel that Ive can be replaced more easily than Jobs can. While I think Ive is a great designer, Apple seems to be sort of stuck from a design perspective. Everything they make now seems to be flat and aluminum. Also, their design aesthetic is being relentlessly copied.

When the original iMac first appeared, I thought to myself, "Wow! That's a computer!?" I thought the same when the iMac G4 debuted. Those designs had both a quirkiness to them, and a beauty. The current crop of iMacs (of which I'm an owner) look more utilitarian to me. They're magnificently functional, but I'm stunned by the technological achievement more than any artistic beauty. The design is so minimal that there's really nothing to the computer -- except my own work that I view on the screen. That itself is brilliant. But I guess I miss the quirkiness.

 

[davidec]

I'm sure they'll work something out, however, is it just me or does anyone else think it may be time for a new head designer? I don't actually like the look and feel of the current unibody mbp, nor do i think the look of the iPhone and iPad are great. There just hasn't been much evolution it Apple's design let alone revolution. Yes of course I agree that Apple are streets ahead of the competition in terms of design, but at that pricing I would expect at least that and more.

 

[gkarris]

Lady Gaga anyone?

LOL....

Forget Designers. The "other" Steve says it's:

"Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers..."

 

[iMacC2D]

Removed.

 

[davidec]

Everything they make now seems to be flat and aluminum. Also, their design aesthetic is being relentlessly copied.
When the original iMac first appeared, I thought to myself, "Wow! That's a computer!?" I thought the same when the iMac G4 debuted. Those designs had both a quirkiness to them, and a beauty. The current crop of iMacs (of which I'm an owner) look more utilitarian to me. They're magnificently functional, but I'm stunned by the technological achievement more than any artistic beauty. The design is so minimal that there's really nothing to the computer -- except my own work that I view on the screen. That itself is brilliant. But I guess I miss the quirkiness.

Exactly.

 

[MattInOz]

In what way does it being 2011 do away with the 8 hour time difference between CA and the UK? Is Johny Ive really going to live on Cupertino time in the UK? Also when you have the responsibilities Ive has there is a constant need for him to be face to face to collaborate the other executives otherwise he is working in a bubble. Only mid-level chumps get to telecommute except in H'wood movies.

Doesn't that depend on his own personal brain wave patterns?
He might find that the time difference really suits his natural work rhythm.
Pushing creative people to produce in the Normal time slot of the business day has to be one of the dumbest assumption made by the standard corporate world. I've worked with many a creative person who keeps very odd hours according to the Corp. world yet they still work very well with their teams. It's really not and cut as dried.

Also giving the Design team a space outside the normal campus lifestyle could well be a massive improvement to the process. So maybe JI stays in England 3weeks a month with each month dedicated to one of the roughly 12 product families. Then 1 week back on campus to review progress.

Giving the design teams a bit more space to show up in house talent.

That said it would be hard for them to find someone with a good smooth passionate voice like JI's for the videos.

 

[LondonCentral]

In other news; Balmer, Elop and Ives are seen having a heated discussion in Hooters over a brewski and some onion rings.

Hooters employee Sharleen reports hearing one of them repeatedly yelling $150million.

 

[Steelers7510]

If we lose Steve and Jonny we are royally screwed.

 

[Bkxmnr]

I would seem that with all of this talk about succession plans at Apple, Ive just found out the he was not the number 2 man.

 

[Apple Corps]

In what way does it being 2011 do away with the 8 hour time difference between CA and the UK? Is Johny Ive really going to live on Cupertino time in the UK? Also when you have the responsibilities Ive has there is a constant need for him to be face to face to collaborate the other executives otherwise he is working in a bubble. Only mid-level chumps get to telecommute except in H'wood movies.

+1

Ives is a highly valuable contributor to the Apple product line - would hate to see him go but Apple will continue to be successful even if he leaves. You really can't integrate well with a team - especial with the level of detail involved in Apple product designs, via video conferencing. Things will sort out and 2011 will be another banner year for Apple.

 

[MattInOz]

I would seem that with all of this talk about succession plans at Apple, Ive just found out the he was not the number 2 man.

Do you really think he wants to be the No.2 Man?
That would mean he'd have to worry about lots of other stuff, that he can play interested bystander as Design head.

 

[insider-man]

For all you towering intellects that are screaming "Facetime!" and remote meetings and "how come Apple won't let him work long-distance and send things in electronically" and whatnot . . . I'm pretty sure this isn't lost on Apple. Duh!

Heh - yeah Facetime . . . not that Facetime is used internally for ANY meetings. Think 1080p HD Tandberg Video Conferencing.

Some people really also need to wake up and understand that working for Apple isn't the *fun* world of enjoyment many of you believe it is.

There is already a sizeable Apple presence (office wise) in the UK - however considering Ive has over 15 direct reports in the US, him being in the UK isn't exactly a sensible approach.