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Stiksi said:
1. If the Guy wants to come back here to the Uk what's the issue!? It's easy to work anywhere now? Even the travel

2. Yup I can I see him as the spiritual sucessor to Steve. A visionary rather than a number Cruncher.

BUT 3 and most importantly 3

PLEASE DO NOT BELIEVE ANYTHING IN THE BRITISH PRESS! Whilst the Times part possibly may hold some credence. The Mail is the most evil publication on the face of this planet. Nothing in it is anyway true

for example...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-dignity-Muslims-council-blacked-windows.html

and the truth...

The curtains that were there went mouldy. they were removed leaving clear glass - so complaints were made.

"A spokeswoman for Walsall Council said the complaints had predominantly come from the Muslim community but that non-Muslim women had also objected."

So they put frosted film that past 95% light... as opposed to the curtains that passed.....zero.

So the Mail managed to make story where SOME women of DIFFERENT Denominations want the same thing... sound like a Racism problem...

BTW - I am a Caucasian 37 year old guy. Mail = Evil

Damn, I wish I hadn't missed the source. If it's from the Mail, I've just wasted time reading six pages of comments… No worries then! :D

It's from the sunday times
 
Makes sense... because in this day and age he wouldn't be able to communicate or send any design work back to the mothership in a reasonable amount of time.

Oh wait, this is 2011!

I agree... Make the man happy and keep him at all costs. He's the best designer this generation has and apple should bend over backwards to keep him around in ANY manner

I worked for a virtual company (everyone worked out of their homes). And I interviewed with another company for a remote position. More and more companies are moving that way. it is very possible (if you are disciplined) to be very productive working remotely. And technology like live meeting / net meeting / webex; remote collaboration in MS Office, and others make it very possible to keep in daily touch with your peers / co-workers. Plus you don't have the distraction of people cornering you for non-essentials. If it is a little more of an effort for them to seek you out, you know they will need something significant and not a time waster.

By all means let him go to the UK and work remotely.
 
Anyone think this story is a designed plant by a friend of the family to help Mr. Ives negotiate an even bigger pay/bonus package this year?

Let's see:

1. iMac - (deep flaws)...

2. MacBook Pro - (serious flaws)...

3. iPhones that (yet another flaw)...

I can think of another dozen or so but, frankly, Don't let the door hit you on the way out, Jon.

Given that the above badly flawed products produced more billions in Apple profit than the did the vast majority of competing products designed by other designers at other companies, most Apple shareholder are very likely saying "Please more flawed products such as the above. Please. Please.".
 
someone here said Ive is considered to be everything, how apple is today.

Don't laugh at me, but my first thought was "oh, in the article they are saying, he is famous for inventing the Macbook Pro, iPad and iPhone Design. Nice, the writer thinks, nobody knows the iMac G3 anyways." then I caught myself thinking, that I actually didn't know, that he was still at Apple* and responsible for the latest products design.

*(you native speakers, is it "at Apple" or "at Apple's"?)


and another thought. I was watching a TV magazine for culture and they had a short portrait of Thomas Heatherwick. I thought "oh, someone Apple could look for". Then I went on the internet and found this article :) Maybe this is an alternative (though he is actually British, too, i.e. he would have to move, too).
 
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It's from the sunday times

No Read again - the source regarding him moving was the Mail. and the times rebutting that a source said they would not let him go. Typical British press bollocks...

paperA - Lets make something up..
paperB - They may be onto something - Lets make up the opposite.
paperA - we can make a few quid here
paperB - OK - We spoke to subjects 1st grade teacher - they denied it
Paper A - but their milkman said they have cancelled there order.
paper C - whooa - but I want to get in on this. Their mum's hairdresser said it's not true
Financal bod - keep it up - I am making tons....
 
They currently live in the States with him – the article suggests that he and Mrs Ive want their twins to be educated in the UK, hence the desire to move back there.

What he means by "educate" his children in England... he means that he wants them to form their posh english accent. Because if they stayed in the US that would be all but impossible unless you homeschooled them etc.
 
someone here said Ive is considered to be everything, how apple is today.

Don't laugh at me, but my first thought was "oh, in the article they are saying, he is famous for inventing the Macbook Pro, iPad and iPhone Design. Nice, the writer thinks, nobody knows the iMac G3 anyways." then I caught myself thinking, that I actually didn't know, that he was still at Apple* and responsible for the latest products design.

*(you native speakers, is it "at Apple" or "at Apple's"?)

It's just apple :D
 
Hes a lot more valuable than Steve Jobs, I would think they would offer him anything possible to get him to stay. He was the one who saved Apple, Jobs just made the decision to allow him to save Apple while the rest of the executives thought style and trend was unimportant. Losing Ive would be like losing a founder since he basically created the modern day successful Apple.

That statement belies your near total lack of comprehension of the Apple Ecosystem and what has made Apple Apple.
 
Well I'll stack my own 14 Design awards and £22 million in sales against whatever you have to say I am afraid. and Ive's 40 Billion! for that matter - And as I stated, The Cube was the one of the ONLY failures. At the time it was incredible. G3 power in something the size of 2 bags of sugar at a time when every other PC was a big Beige box.

Form is and can be as important as function. If you don't understand that then you too are an idiot.

(Err, G4, but anyhoo.)

I'll take it a step further and say that, while the G4 Cube was complete sales flop (and for good reason), that products such as it and the iMac G4 helped to garner the interest of many PC-using onlookers. Though Apple was doing better at the time than they had been a few years prior when Jobs returned, they still weren't completely out of the woods. Though some of those machines were still overpriced and so forth, to some degree it helped to legitimize the company/brand/whatevr in the minds of certain individuals, in that time prior to when the iPod created that so-called "halo effect". Yes, measureably (at least on paper) it wasn't a tangible success. But the eye-windening effect that those and other sorts of products had musn't be overlooked.

I know this just from working in a retail stpre which sold at least twenty PCs for every mac. But when folks when come into the department, many of them would sort of freeze and gawk away at the 22" Cinema Display, Cube, Ti PowerBook, iMac G4 and so on.
 
Just make a new deal with him, £64.0M ought to be enough for anybody!

He's probably earned quite enough money to live more than comfortably for the rest of his life. If he wants to move back to England there's not much Apple can do about it. What can you offer the man who has everything?
 
What he means by "educate" his children in England... he means that he wants them to form their posh english accent. Because if they stayed in the US that would be all but impossible unless you homeschooled them etc.
If he's hoping they'll go to university in Newcastle as he did, there's not much chance of posh accents developing. :D

Mind, booze prices may well be cheaper in UK student union bars – that's probably the driving force behind this.
 
It's from the sunday times


I hope you're monitoring this thread closely, Arn. I've never seen a larger gathering of people who know the inner workings of Apple. Perhaps they could turn out to be good sources for you.
 
What he means by "educate" his children in England... he means that he wants them to form their posh english accent. Because if they stayed in the US that would be all but impossible unless you homeschooled them etc.
Actually, it would still be impossible unless you surrounded him with British-English-speaking peers or kept him in captivity all day. Kids don't learn language by imitating their parents.

In any case, hopefully they can work something out. Many people appreciate the designs he has created for Apple (or, at least, post iMac G3--see my previous post), and together with Jobs' vision, I think it's clear it had a lot to do with the company's turnaround, if not their becoming a leader whose design everyone else seeks to imitate.
 
OK, this story explains everything!

A year or so I opened up an iPod and there was a little note inside from Jon Ive, "Help, I'm being held captive in a Chinese iPod factory."
 
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It's from the sunday times

Its just as unreliable. Seriously, all UK papers are full of made up crap with sources that are so vague you'll never get to the bottom of a story.

Take EVERYTHING the UK papers say as lies until proven otherwise.
 
Wait, he's been at Apple since 1991? What was he doing before 1999?!

Believe it or not he designed the Newton. (which i loved)

This is a negotiation, whatever the stock drops tomorrow will show how much he is worth to the company. A great trial balloon. Shave 10 billion off the value of the company and see what they offer. He deserves it. Let him work in England and cultivate some new talent at the same time.


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