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Phone would-be-nices:

MMS - I realize Steve Jobs has a personal vendetta against picture messaging - but get over it Steve, a lot of us out here use it. Its embarassing that a free phone from 3 years ago has MMS and iPhone doesn't.

Copy & Paste - MOSTLY to compensate for lack of MMS, who wants to switch back and forth to type the login details??? But otherwise, would be nice - you can't think of every GUI need, Steve, and lock us into it.....just allow a little flexibility.

Phone MUST HAVE:

MULTIPLE SIGNATURE MANAGEMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING STEVE???? I know you want to keep it simple, but I send a ton of email on multiple accounts every day and I need multiple signatures. Its the primary reason I dumped my first iPhone and its the ONLY reason keeping me from buying another one! COME ON DUDE!!!!!!!!!!
 
I read the title and thought 'Joswiak' was some Apple fanboy lingo I didn't know of, a mix of Jobs and Wozniak.

Aside from that, all I have to say is copy and paste is missing, what about picture messaging?!? I mean, the latter is something you expect a phone to do, the former a smart phone.

Joswiac, goes by "Jaws", is a long-time Apple good guy... I remember meeting him at an Apple Dealer meeting in the 1980's... AIR, the hot topic being pushed by Apple was "Desktop Communications". Nobody could explain what it meant, tho :confused:
 
That's is one thing that is so great about the phone in general. So much is controlled by software...

Or said another way:

That is one thing that is so crappy about the phone in general. So much is limited by software.
 
no time for copy & paste

this is incredible: how many people are woring on the software for the iphone? and no one can find the time to program something so important like a copy & paste function??? i can not believe apples excuse....
 
this is incredible: how many people are woring on the software for the iphone? and no one can find the time to program something so important like a copy & paste function??? i can not believe apples excuse....

You've clearly never done any software engineering. If you think it's that easy, why not explain to us how you would do it?

The only simple way I thought it could be done is by single tap, hold and drag to select text but this is already used for moving the text cursor. Maybe a double tap..?
 
According to NyTimes Nokia sells 10 Million phones per week.

Does that mean we can count all of Apples products they sell in a week then?

I'm sure Nokia sells 10 million high end smart phones with 8-16 gigs of storage and 3g/wifi access with the ability to install 1000s of apps. Oh, what's that...they are mainly cheap throw away phones they give to every Tom, Dick, and Harry with a 20 plan? Oh, well then...

This is one product that is high end and requires a min plan of 70/month. Seems impressive to me. Oh and nokia sells everywhere. Apple is in 22 countries. Wait until they launch in the remaining 40 or so and (possibly) release an iPhone nano
 
this is incredible: how many people are woring on the software for the iphone? and no one can find the time to program something so important like a copy & paste function??? i can not believe apples excuse....

Developers for the iPhone CANNOT create a copy and paste function. Developers can only create stand-alone applications, which cannot run in the background and must end when another application is opened. A copy and paste function must be either running in the background, or be a library call inside each application to a clipboard of the cut/paste content.

ONLY APPLE can make this function on the iPhone. An application could easily have cut-and-paste as part of it's OWN functions (like someone making a quick word processor application on the iPhone), but doing this across different applications can only be done if it is part of the iPhone software itself.
 
My several cents regarding missing features...

the iPhone's Mail app is, I believe, seriously crippled by the lack of a search feature. The 2.0 software lets me sync thousands of emails, yet I can't perform a simple search?

And, after I scroll through hundreds of emails to find what I'm looking for, there's no way to "jump" back to the top of my inbox. I should be able to touch the top of the Mail app pane to return to the top - just like in Safari.

It would also be nice to have the option to sort emails by date, sender, subject. Apple promotes iPhone's Mail as a "desktop mail application." It falls far short of that.

One more gripe...
The iPhone does a great job of recognizing phone numbers, but when you click on a number, you only get two choices: Call or Cancel. I'd love to be able to touch a phone number and add it to my contacts without first calling the phone number.

Finally, though I'm hesitant to play this card, all of the above features were present on the Blackberry I had 5 years ago.
 
What a load of crap. How can copy and paste on a supposedly smart phone not be a priority? No copy/cut/paste, MMS, and video - were the biggest complaints I've read throughout blogs and the media. I love my iPhone, but I would like some of that simple functionality that I had in my blackberry. I used copy/paste quite often... MMS and video I can definitely live without.
 
Developers for the iPhone CANNOT create a copy and paste function. Developers can only create stand-alone applications, which cannot run in the background and must end when another application is opened. A copy and paste function must be either running in the background, or be a library call inside each application to a clipboard of the cut/paste content.

ONLY APPLE can make this function on the iPhone. An application could easily have cut-and-paste as part of it's OWN functions (like someone making a quick word processor application on the iPhone), but doing this across different applications can only be done if it is part of the iPhone software itself.

bbtrinet is correct. Visit the WebIS.net site and check out the development of PocketInformant for iPhone. Every developer could do their own stand alone implementation for use in their program, BUT that would lead to other disasters when Apple releases cut & paste on a system-wide basis.

Now here's hoping that Apple doesn't swallow its own line of BS and takes up cut & paste as the very next addition to 2.01.
 
Select a picture, choose email picture, choose your address, click send. Boom, you're done. Not only does it work with other handsets that support picture attachments in email but you can also send it to computers too.

What's so great about MMS?

Mostly for receiving messages, plus, not everyone has email on their phones, but almost everyone has MMS, so it's easier to just send to a phone number than an email address, or a phone number convoluted into an email address (such as 2123456789@vzwpix.com or the equivalent for other carriers, I just switched to at&t so I don't even know the phone email address for them)
 
Samsung Instinct

You are peaved that Apple is leaving GPS software up to GPS software companies instead of doing it themselves, a company that has as much exprience writing GPS software as me?

Yes I am...
The Samsung Instinct has it built in out of the box and if I want to use it I have to pay a minimum (TelNav & Tom Tom) $99 a year. That makes the phone $399 for me.

Having GPS with no voice navigation is a liability to users who drive alone and are looking for directions.

Samsung understood this. Apple Doesn't.
 
Mostly for receiving messages, plus, not everyone has email on their phones, but almost everyone has MMS, so it's easier to just send to a phone number than an email address, or a phone number convoluted into an email address (such as 2123456789@vzwpix.com or the equivalent for other carriers, I just switched to at&t so I don't even know the phone email address for them)
Not everyone has a cellphone let alone one that does MMS or has a plan that includes the service but a lot more people have access to email and a computer.

It's easier to view/print/save photos from your email box than from your phone. I guess MMS is popular amount certain subculture groups with certain kinds of phones but I found using my camera on my KRZR. It might support MMS but I would not have a clue how to send one.

MMS is a hack of the old SMS protocol. I don't think MMS had really caught on in Canada.

Maybe you should get your friends to upgrade to a modern phone with email. This is the 21st century after all and those friends would then be able to print out the photos from their computer later without having to "sync" their phone with some craptastic software.
 
Not everyone has a cellphone let alone one that does MMS or has a plan that includes the service but a lot more people have access to email and a computer.

It's easier to view/print/save photos from your email box than from your phone. I guess MMS is popular amount certain subculture groups with certain kinds of phones but I found using my camera on my KRZR. It might support MMS but I would not have a clue how to send one.

MMS is a hack of the old SMS protocol. I don't think MMS had really caught on in Canada.

Maybe you should get your friends to upgrade to a modern phone with email. This is the 21st century after all and those friends would then be able to print out the photos from their computer later without having to "sync" their phone with some craptastic software.

I wish the Mail app allowed us to send full rez pics versus the 800x600 pics it currently sends.
 
Yes I am...
The Samsung Instinct has it built in out of the box and if I want to use it I have to pay a minimum (TelNav & Tom Tom) $99 a year. That makes the phone $399 for me.

Having GPS with no voice navigation is a liability to users who drive alone and are looking for directions.

Samsung understood this. Apple Doesn't.

All Apple did was put in a chip that could give latitude and longitude. They never advertised voice navigation, they never advertised turn by turn directions. This is up to companies, and there's no liability. The driver can pull over and check directions. I don't understand why you're worked up in all your anti-Apple post.

Face it, your Samsung Instinct is just a fake iPhone. Sure, it has the same SPECS, but specs don't necessarily make the phone. People need to understand that.
 
Yes I am...
The Samsung Instinct has it built in out of the box and if I want to use it I have to pay a minimum (TelNav & Tom Tom) $99 a year. That makes the phone $399 for me.

Having GPS with no voice navigation is a liability to users who drive alone and are looking for directions.

Samsung understood this. Apple Doesn't.

Thanks to the app store, my iPhone is infinitely more capalbe than your Samsung Instink!:p

I can't even begin to talk about all of the things it can do
 
Why do people keep saying that the iPhone won't picture message? I can't take a photo, select it in the camera roll, and the send it in an email? Is this not picture messaging?

I guess I don't understand the added value of messaging to a phone number. Nearly everyone I know has mobile access to their email, so the distinction between picture messaging and sending an email with a picture attached is irrelevant.
 
Maybe I'm dense or something, but it seems to me that a GPS device specifically meant for a car, such as the Garmin Nuvi, is MUCH more suited to this task than the small iPhone! I wouldn't want to try driving and holding my iPhone in one hand and glancing at it all the time while attempting to find my way around a strange area. My Nuvi talks to me, tells me aloud where to ake my turns and at the same time I can glance at it quickly in its position on my dashboard to check the route.

Some GPS units are about as small as the iPhone, at least the face size but thicker. I don't think any of the other issues you raise are hard problems to solve.


Just a guess on the GPS...the strength of portable GPS devices is that they have a huge map and POI database available directly to the software. I'm guessing it takes at least 1GB of data for this.

I guess it's good that iPhone offers 8GB and 16GB of storage. I've heard of GPS units that stored their data on 256MB cards.

So then, how would Apple distribute this app via iTunes? Very slowly! Maybe that's the problem?

It doesn't have to be over the phone.

I did a fresh install of Leopard, and that required about 700MB

According to NyTimes Nokia sells 10 Million phones per week.

Isn't that combining a few dozen models, including regular mobiles? How many of those are smartphones? If N82 or N95 hits 1/2 million a weekend, I would be surprised.
 
I don't quite follow. On the desktop I can copy a file (cmd-c); create a new folder (shift-cmd-n); paste the original file (cmd-p). Then again, it is not possible to "cut" and paste files. That would be just plain weird.

:confused: Tiger 10.4.11

You just described copy and paste. I don't think cut and paste on files is weird.

Phone would-be-nices:

MMS - I realize Steve Jobs has a personal vendetta against picture messaging - but get over it Steve, a lot of us out here use it. Its embarassing that a free phone from 3 years ago has MMS and iPhone doesn't.

What's it going to cost if AT&T considers ~150 byes to be worth $0.20 to relay?


They could have easily sold at least double as many if they hadn't allocated 90% of the phones to the US.

How would changing the distribution change that? Didn't they pretty much sell out regardless of where they were shipped?

1 million iphone 3G's in 3 days. That must be a world record for product sales


All you need to do is provide an example.

At least for phones, I haven't heard of a better launch for any phone. Including other types of products, I can see that being true.
 
Why do people keep saying that the iPhone won't picture message? I can't take a photo, select it in the camera roll, and the send it in an email? Is this not picture messaging?

I haven't seen may people say it doesn't "picture message", they say doesn't MMS. I think it is you that substituted the more generic "picture message".

You described one form of picture messaging, but you did not really describe MMS because iPhone can't do that form.

I guess I don't understand the added value of messaging to a phone number. Nearly everyone I know has mobile access to their email, so the distinction between picture messaging and sending an email with a picture attached is irrelevant.

Can iPhone mail do "CC" to multiple people? Someone in this thread said they couldn't do that with a picture on the iPhone, and said his girlfriend's phone MMS offers that.
 
I read the title and thought 'Joswiak' was some Apple fanboy lingo I didn't know of, a mix of Jobs and Wozniak.

I thought the same. JOSWIAK.... some love child of Jobs/Wosniak, a genetic creation meant to carry on the legacy.
 
Does that mean we can count all of Apples products they sell in a week then?

I'm sure Nokia sells 10 million high end smart phones with 8-16 gigs of storage and 3g/wifi access with the ability to install 1000s of apps. Oh, what's that...they are mainly cheap throw away phones they give to every Tom, Dick, and Harry with a 20 plan? Oh, well then...

This is one product that is high end and requires a min plan of 70/month. Seems impressive to me. Oh and nokia sells everywhere. Apple is in 22 countries. Wait until they launch in the remaining 40 or so and (possibly) release an iPhone nano

this nokia/apple comparison is really tiresome, but there seems to be some things that could be clarified...

1. yes nokia sells sh*tloads of cheap phones, i dont think that's anything to look down to, they have very healthy profit margins at the same time and those cheapo phones contribute to the life

2. nokia also sells very large number of smartphones, this year something betweeen 75-90m.

apple is doing great with iphone, but at the same time nokia is doing just fine, if not great, in all the mobile device categories. why the hostility?
 
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