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Come to think of it, while I'd love to have copy/paste functionality, something a bit more essential (at least for my needs) is a 'quick-scroll' option; as in the ability to quickly scroll through a long webpage/list/document without constant flicking.

For an example of this - take a look at the Remote app, there's an implementation of this once you have selected a specific playlist... I just wish it was system wide as opposed to confined to one application.
 
If you were truly in the minority, then cut and paste would already be implemented. It's just a very vocal minority that wants it.

I think most everyone would appreciate having it, and I don't think anyone is actually actively opposed to having it. I think much like Apple, though, the majority of people have copy and paste at a very low level of priority. I know I do. I wouldn't mind if it was there, although I can't really remember actually needing it. If it showed up it would be nice, but I could probably come up with 50 things I would prefer to be done first. As can most people.

A very vocal minority gives it a much higher priority than everyone else.
 
I miss Flash alot more than I miss copy and paste..

Also, the app store is only 4 days old. There's gonna be some amazing stuff on there over the next few months. Imagine..

  • Microsoft Office
  • GTA4
  • Quake 5 iPhone edition (Carmack is a huge iPhone fan)
  • Skype (I know Apple wouldn't allow it, but here's to hoping!)
  • Sling
  • Garmin navigation
  • The sky's the limit!

I can't wait.
 
How about when you have an address in an email and you want to put it into google?

Or how about when you read something on a website and you want to cut/paste into an email?

Or ...

Not having cut/paste is just ridiculous.

I love my new iPhone, but it just baffles me that they think features like this are low priority.

But I'm new to the iPhone (long time Treo user) so there may be a way to do this that I don't know.


I really don't know what the hubbub is about copy and paste. Rarely am I in a situation on my phone where I feel copy and paste would be great to have.

I understand I'm the minority here.
 
Check the prices that TelNav currently charges for Mobile Voice Turn by Turn directions.

$99/year. I'm a little peaved that Apple is relying on 3rd party developers to write this.

If you are driving alone GPS is useless. Most business people are driving solo when they would be using the built in follow the blue Google Map. It's an accident waiting to happen.

Very disappointing considering this is Apple.

You are peaved that Apple is leaving GPS software up to GPS software companies instead of doing it themselves, a company that has as much exprience writing GPS software as me?
 
Hey I'm still waiting for Cut & Paste in OS X.

Second that!

Copy/Cut & Paste are basic features in any OS, Why doesnt OSX has it yet?

Copy paste is much needed on a device like iPhone, spl now that we have our schedules synched with the iPhone, its the most needed feature now that we want to quickly move around information between SMS, email and calender. It would be much better than having to type all over again when the text is already there in the phone.
It is much needed for Calender, AOL, Notes, Todo and now numerours Apps coming in the App store. Bring it :apple:. Better now than later!
 
I hope the NY Times fires David Pogue for being incompetent.

He's not incompetent.

He is just reporting the information that he was told from technical staff and his personal experience with the iphone. He is probably technically correct with his reporting. Apple is just saying that there are difficulties with using the iphone for turn-by-turn navigation but there may be a future work around found by resourceful developers.
 
Rogers is making money

For sure. Big deal. We all know this.

The point was: they were being so totally out of the ballpark with their initial price "offerings" that many of us who were waiting and holding onto our POS cell phones, while anticipating the release of the iPhone into our Canadian market gave up in disgust.

Like many other Canadians, I signed a few petitions and wrote a number of emails to various Rogers people, vowing to drop all Rogers business and shop elsewhere.

Incredibly, they changed their mind and offered the 30 Gig data plan as a standalone, to be added to whatever voice plan we have. Sweet. I was quite frankly amazed that they listened. The cynic in me shut up, while the geek made plans......

First in line at our local store, and I got my first iPhone. It's probably the sparkling stars in my eyes talking but....Rogers done good. And that deserves a pat on the back for old Ted Rogers as well as a hearty "attaboy!"

I'm still in the honeymoon stage with my iPhone. Will write back later when reality sets in and I revert back to my usual snarling self. :cool:
 
Apple announced that they had sold over 1 million iPhone 3Gs this weekend. There continue to be long lines at Apple Stores across the country for the iPhone.

We went to an Apple store today, and I noticed there was no line whatsoever. Almost immediately afterward, I noticed the large sign proclaiming: "No iPhone 3G Today" in nice, Myriad Pro lettering.

Well, that explains that.
 
For some reason I have this scenario in my head with my iPhone in a holster mounted on my dash whenever I need it. I get lost and just bring up the GPS and am good to go. It's got a decent speaker, a nice sized screen and amazinf portability - the only thing holding it back is if the GPS can't track fast enough. I mean, GP systems connect to 8 satellites at once...I don;t know if the iPhone is capable of that.

There are 27 GPS Sats in total and your GPS receiver doesn't needs to connect to 8 satellites simultaneously, infact only 4 are visible at any location at one time.

Well you learned something today ;)
http://www.howstuffworks.com/gps.htm
 
Second that!

Copy/Cut & Paste are basic features in any OS, Why doesnt OSX has it yet?

Copy paste is much needed on a device like iPhone, spl now that we have our schedules synched with the iPhone, its the most needed feature now that we want to quickly move around information between SMS, email and calender. It would be much better than having to type all over again when the text is already there in the phone.
It is much needed for Calender, AOL, Notes, Todo and now numerours Apps coming in the App store. Bring it :apple:. Better now than later!

Actually, in Mac OS X, Cut & Paste does exist... just not for files.

The reason, in my opinion, that Apple does not want to implement copy-and-paste quite yet is that they don't want developers relying on it; they want to push developers to create new paradigms.

Even when there is "copy-and-paste" on iPhone, it may not be "copy-and-paste." It may instead be an ability to select text, and then perform an action regarding that text (a window, for instance, could pop up and give a list of actions, such as emailing the text, adding it to notes, sending the contents to some application, etc.)

Actually, this would be more logical than cut & paste even for moving files on Mac; imagine if you could click a file and have a menu of actions pop up; then, you would select "move," and navigate to the location you wish to move the file to.
 
I miss Flash alot more than I miss copy and paste..

...

  • Skype (I know Apple wouldn't allow it, but here's to hoping!)

I don't miss Flash. While I think Flash is a brilliantly designed platform as of late (especially Flash 9), it is not, in its current incarnation, meant for multi-touch. The only way I think Adobe could credibly make Flash for iPhone would be to create it with no mouse handling events (thus making almost all current Flash files incompatible) and to drastically change the way interacting with the keyboard works.

The reason for this is that Adobe needs to STRONGLY DISCOURAGE simple porting of Flash documents from desktop to iPhone. By making normal Flash files incompatible, they could accomplish this. Sure, they'd be hated for awhile, but their platform would end up much better off.


As for Skype, I believe Apple stated that VoIP was allowed, but only over WiFi. I could be wrong.
 
crazy. Copy and Paste should be available in day 1.
I still can't believe the priority list is so long that they still can't work on it until now.
(maybe the one before C & P is.....flash. hahahhaah)
 
I don't miss Flash. While I think Flash is a brilliantly designed platform as of late (especially Flash 9), it is not, in its current incarnation, meant for multi-touch. The only way I think Adobe could credibly make Flash for iPhone would be to create it with no mouse handling events (thus making almost all current Flash files incompatible) and to drastically change the way interacting with the keyboard works.

The reason for this is that Adobe needs to STRONGLY DISCOURAGE simple porting of Flash documents from desktop to iPhone. By making normal Flash files incompatible, they could accomplish this. Sure, they'd be hated for awhile, but their platform would end up much better off.


As for Skype, I believe Apple stated that VoIP was allowed, but only over WiFi. I could be wrong.

Skype would be great but it would be even better if Apple had put a new camera in the iphone that could do decent video.

Unfortunately the crappy camera in the iphone has a very poor lens, and small, slow CCD sensor. It can't do adequate video even when tricked with the proper software.
 
For sure. Big deal. We all know this.

The point was: they were being so totally out of the ballpark with their initial price "offerings" that many of us who were waiting and holding onto our POS cell phones, while anticipating the release of the iPhone into our Canadian market gave up in disgust.

Like many other Canadians, I signed a few petitions and wrote a number of emails to various Rogers people, vowing to drop all Rogers business and shop elsewhere.

Incredibly, they changed their mind and offered the 30 Gig data plan as a standalone, to be added to whatever voice plan we have. Sweet. I was quite frankly amazed that they listened. The cynic in me shut up, while the geek made plans......

First in line at our local store, and I got my first iPhone. It's probably the sparkling stars in my eyes talking but....Rogers done good. And that deserves a pat on the back for old Ted Rogers as well as a hearty "attaboy!"

I'm still in the honeymoon stage with my iPhone. Will write back later when reality sets in and I revert back to my usual snarling self. :cool:


I second this. Rogers did indeed do the right thing. The conspiracy theorists will point out that they planned it this way all along (which of course is ridiculous). In the end, they did what was needed and I too was in line early.

Loving my iPhone. Its almost living in the charger though, as I tend to overuse it and I'm sure I will not be so hard on it as the novelty wears off and some of the more useless apps get kicked off of it.

As for cut and paste, I think I have a pretty decent solution that wouldn't be too hard for Apple to implement. If anyone cares, it is:

1 - Use the zoom on text feature to find a beginning point to copy. While zoomed at the beginning point, double tap anywhere with another finger. This will cause a small red bar to appear at the copy beginning point.

2 - Scroll through the text to locate your end point of the copy, engage zoom on text feature again, double tap anywhere. Text is briefly highlighted between beginning and end point, flashes (inverse) once or twice. Copy complete. Text unhighlights.

3 - Engage zoom on text feature wherever you want to paste. Triple tap anywhere. Text is inserted.

You could probably toss a dialog on the screen to ask the user if they want to copy or paste - just tossing it out there, but I think this would be simple enough.
 
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it's funny that every single professional review of the 3G complains of the lack of copy/paste and MMS capability. These same 2 complaints have been repeated since the original iPhone. I really wonder why Apple doesn't explain why they refuse to add the features.
 
Actually, in Mac OS X, Cut & Paste does exist... just not for files.

I don't quite follow. On the desktop I can copy a file (cmd-c); create a new folder (shift-cmd-n); paste the original file (cmd-p). Then again, it is not possible to "cut" and paste files. That would be just plain weird.

:confused: Tiger 10.4.11
 
Maybe, but the problem is Apple restricts running applications (those that aren't from Apple) as background processes, making it difficult if not impossible to implement something like copy/paste which must be a global service. The file browser is more likely, although Apple hasn't officially implemented a sandboxed general storage area yes AFAIK (but signs are they probably will at some point).

I think Cut & Paste would be an operating system-level implementation (kind of like how it is on most operating systems) with a global (think OS-level) clipboard that applications can access via the API... The question is what kind of data do you store to the clipboard (can it be like OS X where you can copy and paste text or pictures and the receiving application can accept to paste it or not)
 
where's MMS play into this scheme? i think the iPhone might be the only phone at&t sells without picture messaging...
Select a picture, choose email picture, choose your address, click send. Boom, you're done. Not only does it work with other handsets that support picture attachments in email but you can also send it to computers too.

What's so great about MMS?
Like many other Canadians, I signed a few petitions and wrote a number of emails to various Rogers people, vowing to drop all Rogers business and shop elsewhere.

Incredibly, they changed their mind and offered the 30 Gig data plan as a standalone, to be added to whatever voice plan we have. Sweet. I was quite frankly amazed that they listened. The cynic in me shut up, while the geek made plans......
1. What is this 30GB plan you speak of? They offered a 6GB plan for 30 bucks not just for the iPhone but for other smart phones as well.
2. How quickly many of you seem to forget what their prices were "before" the iPhone plans were announced and everyone started complaining.

Apple had coerced Rogers/Fido into compromising with the plans that you thought were so terrible. I went for the 6GB addon for 30 plus a 35 dollar voice plan and another value pack for 20 that brought a lot more text message and 5pm evenings but I'm thinking that I probably would have been better served with the 60 buck iPhone plan give that I've only used up around 4Mb so far of bandwidth since getting my iPhone on the 11th.

Everyone was screaming about the 400MB cap without even asking existing owners what to expect with usage.

I think a lot of posters here need to either get a grip or confess about about being in the employ of Telus or Bell.
 
Re: GPS
He's essentially stating that although the iPhone has the capability to perform 'turn-by-turn' directions; they couldn't work out the liability. All in-car navigation has a release of liability that you agree to when it boots. This is further compounded by both the fact that it's also a cellular phone and Apple's insistance that Apps not run in the background.

Not at all..

What I'm saying is Samsung had enough foresight to include "VOICE NAVIGATION" with the Instinct because of the liability factor.

Apple is putting Millions of drivers on the road with a litttle Blue Dot to show them when to turn.

Apple is losing the GPS battle because it refuses to give a user what they need to keep them safe. Cheer's to Samsung for thinking of the end user and including it as "STOCK" and not a "UPCOMING" feature that we have to pay for.

Microsoft, Blackberry, Nokia, take note of how to introduce GPS becuase Steve failed, BIG TIME.
 
There are 27 GPS Sats in total and your GPS receiver doesn't needs to connect to 8 satellites simultaneously, infact only 4 are visible at any location at one time.

Well you learned something today ;)
http://www.howstuffworks.com/gps.htm

No, four satellites are the bare minimum needed for a 3D fix. There are always (per your link) at least four visible. Using more signals allows the receiver to refine its calculations and discard signals from sats in unfavorable positions. Just a few minutes ago, my Garmin reported 10 sats above the horizon and was using 7 or 8 for its fix.
 
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aristotle said:
where's MMS play into this scheme? i think the iPhone might be the only phone at&t sells without picture messaging...
Select a picture, choose email picture, choose your address, click send. Boom, you're done. Not only does it work with other handsets that support picture attachments in email but you can also send it to computers too.

What's so great about MMS?
Like many other Canadians, I signed a few petitions and wrote a number of emails to various Rogers people, vowing to drop all Rogers business and shop elsewhere.

Incredibly, they changed their mind and offered the 30 Gig data plan as a standalone, to be added to whatever voice plan we have. Sweet. I was quite frankly amazed that they listened. The cynic in me shut up, while the geek made plans......
1. What is this 30GB plan you speak of? They offered a 6GB plan for 30 bucks not just for the iPhone but for other smart phones as well.
2. How quickly many of you seem to forget what their prices were "before" the iPhone plans were announced and everyone started complaining.

Apple had coerced Rogers/Fido into compromising with the plans that you thought were so terrible. I went for the 6GB addon for 30 plus a 35 dollar voice plan and another value pack for 20 that brought a lot more text message and 5pm evenings but I'm thinking that I probably would have been better served with the 60 buck iPhone plan give that I've only used up around 4Mb so far of bandwidth since getting my iPhone on the 11th.

Everyone was screaming about the 400MB cap without even asking existing owners what to expect with usage.

I was at the Angels game last night and my girlfriend sent me some snaps from her ATT Razr via MMS. I felt like a total idiot trying to remember each login and each password for each picture on ATT's site. It was a major pia trying to view them. My gf sent a batch MMS to a bunch of friends phones and most don't have mobile email or data plans. For a quick phone to phone snapshot MMS works great. Most people can't believe my Jesus phone can't send or recieve MMS
 
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