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I don't think it's going to be a seamless and fast rollout how Apple is expecting it to be. Just look at Apple Wallet. People still carry physical credit cards.
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Apple's Kevin Lynch Explains How IDs Will Work on Apple Watch in watchOS 8
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They need to edit the story. Until every state allows digital ID's to be used, this is a convenience for those that do. ApplePay didn't replace credit cards either.
Better to have your ID syncd with your Apple Watch. Let the watch do the ID transaction, so cops see both your hands at all times…
Thanks to COVID-19 (!), most stores around me now accept Apple Pay. So I only need to carry driver's license and one physical credit card just in case.
As for other states, I rarely travel into other states, so once my own state supports digital ID, I probably would leave the driver's license behind for all but travel.
For me the feature is dead in the water if it needs me to hand over anything to a stranger in an unlocked state.
Apple has been pressing hard the issue of privacy security (queue the anti Apple crowd blowing a gasket 😀). An unlocked phone handed to a stranger would be counter to that push.
So I assume it will be a function that only unlocks to show the card. Otherwise I’d put in my wallet but take a pass on using it under most circumstances.
Great, stay away from Florida. Win for you and a win for us.
... except that there are a lot of requirements for ID other than driving. Banks, liquor stores, medical offices, medical marijuana, etc. all ask to see your ID too. So, until "Electronic ID" becomes the PRIMARY form of ID, this will be nothing more than a convenience. I'll cheerfully take it though.
Actually it’s not really funny because it’s categorically false. Compliant people rarely if ever get shot.
Law enforcement here. Great, but what's to stop someone from using a screen shot as their ID? You screen grab your buddies ID, it becomes your fake ID?
If it is as reliable as Apple Pay you'll still need to carry a wallet with your cards. I find at least 25% of the time Apple Pay doesn't work at places it is supposed to - then the next week it might at same place.
But since I have no intention of buying an Apple watch it won't really make a difference to me.
But since I have no intention of buying an Apple watch it won't really make a difference to me.
If the picture and physical details are close enough, what’s to stop this from happening with an actual, physical ID?
While I understand the desire to do this, for getting drinks or something. I will never ever give an unlocked phone to a officer. They want my license they will get the physical one. Giving your unlocked phone to a member of law enforcement opens up way to many issues in my mind.
Now if I can have my licenses and display the barcode that the officer can then scan, sure.
Now if I can have my licenses and display the barcode that the officer can then scan, sure.
I am guessing there will be some kind of tamper proof mechanism in the ID.
So let me get this straight, no blood glucose measuring but hey in another 2 years if you buy a new car you’ll be able to unlock the doors. Progress just doesn’t seem reasonable does it?
I don't believe the article is about handing over your phone or watch. An officer can take a picture of the ID to confirm at his or her vehicle.
You should open a support case. I use ApplePay and my other wallet credit cards a lot, it’s rock solid. Far better than the physical card that would sometimes need a few swipes (after it has be used enough).
This is precisely my concern. Even if they're supposed to come to the window and scan the ID somehow via my phone, in a locked state, I sincerely doubt that cops will consistently follow that procedure.
We can't even get them to reliably turn on their body cams.
"Oh that machine is broken, I need to take it back to my car with me…"
Being pulled over by the police clearly isn’t the primary use case Apple has in mind here, at least at this stage. TSA already has the needed technology; a thousand different police departments don’t — and won’t any time soon.
Given that the article is about using the Apple Watch, and you can't take the Apple Watch off your wrist without it locking, they certainly appear to be going for the "hold your device/wrist up to this reader" approach. I've heard there are several states that already allow digital drivers licenses, and the reports from users there are that the cops are not allowed to ask for - and don't want to touch - your phone. And yeah, I wouldn't ever hand my phone over to the police to take back to their squad car - sounds like they've taken that into account.
And do what with it, precisely, that they couldn't do by reading the information off the screen while you hold it? I get the concern, but there's no plausible reason for them to have to take your phone back to their car. And until whatever new scanners they need get fully deployed, you'll need to carry your physical drivers license card as a backup anyway.
Beyond that, it would need a sort of half-unlocked state, exposing only your license. You don't want anyone who picks up your phone to be able to access your drivers license.