There's a reason why the officer wants a physical item....Think about it....
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Apple's Kevin Lynch Explains How IDs Will Work on Apple Watch in watchOS 8
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99% of people expressing concern over handing over an unlocked iPhone to a police officer did not read/comprehend the article.
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True but I’m down to just one now instead of the 3 or 4 I used to carry.
My forehead hurts from so many facepalms on some of the "what if’s" I’ve read here!
This is a ridiculous argument. Just because one commenter mentioned ha ding over an unlocked phone without thinking for 2 seconds how Apple Pay doesn’t require an unlocked device has really thrown this group for a loop.
What state are those? I believe 49 of 50 states accept the digital card. One state doesn’t because they just print it on the registration. I believe it’s NM
You don’t hand over your iPhone to a clerk to pay for your groceries. A digital ID can work like either Apple Pay — tap to display your information on the officer’s device — or AirDrop where you tap your ID in your Wallet, tap Share and see nearby devices that can accept it, perhaps the officer’s in-cruiser computer, equipped with a device capable of receiving the information.
Want this in Australia, don’t want to carry any cards
You can already access the Wallet app from a locked phone.
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The same reason they take your physical license and registration back to their car instead of just reading them while you hold them.
Anyone have Kevin Lynch's direct email?
With the iOS 15 and watchOS 8 updates, Apple is allowing U.S. users to add their state ID cards or driver's licenses to the Wallet app, alleviating the need for a physical ID card to be carried.
Apple's VP of Technology, Kevin Lynch, oversees much of the Apple Watch's design and he recently did an interview with Yahoo Finance to explain how it works and the plans that Apple has for the feature in the future.
To start with, ID cards will be able to be added to the Wallet app in certain states, and Apple has not provided details on which states will be participating at this time. Apple also plans to work with the TSA to allow the digital ID cards to be used in lieu of a physical card.
"We're early on this, obviously," said Lynch. ""You'll be able to have it in your Wallet. You can see your ID there like your other cards. And then you can present that if you choose to, for example, TSA."
Lynch went on to explain that it's similar to how Apple Pay works. "You can digitally present it," he said, "and the information can show up for the person who is looking at your ID."
Apple plans to manage which information is available to which person, similar to the Health app. Apple won't be able to track where an ID has been shown, nor will the state that provides the ID be able to see that information. License information will be protected with a passcode, much like debit and credit cards.
Along with ID integration, Apple is adding new features that will let users lock, unlock, and start their cars from their Apple Watches in an expansion of the Car Key feature that's already available. "It's a lot of fun to be able to just walk up to your car and have it unlock and then drive," said Lynch.
Apple also plans to add support for various smart locks, allowing digital house keys to be stored in the Wallet app, plus this feature will also work with hotels that participate in Apple's new digital key initiative.
For licenses and IDs, Apple likely will need to navigate different rules and agreements with each state, and we won't know until later in the year which states will support the initiative at launch. Digital IDs are baked into iOS 15 and watchOS 8, which are launching publicly this fall.
Article Link: Apple's Kevin Lynch Explains How IDs Will Work on Apple Watch in watchOS 8
I'd like to message him regarding the 'Messages' app in WatchOS. Super fustrating Apple is adding new features yet not fixing existing features/apps when promised several years ago.
Please reread my post with emphasis on the part where I said I do not think Apple would do this (a feature that requires handing over an unlocked phone).
Cheers…
Australia has an app, coincidentally by the same company who has made the aforementioned Arizona app.
Maybe so. A State ID or DL is something that can be physically determined if it is fake. We’ll have to see how this feature is enabled.
We are moving towards a smartphone-QR code-nfc world (for better or worse).
Future: you provide image of ID(locked phone otherwise), officer scans code that instantly matches info and image against state/fed database. All ability for fake ID removed.
Again is it good? I’mmmm not so sure about that. Inevitable? I think it is.
Living In Arizona and using the existing app, the officer just wrote the ID # down, and ran it that way. Stating that they wern't allowed to touch phones.
Compliance, of course, is defined as one who is not shot.
The problem with the individual law enforcement agent is that it takes effort to become one, and no one who puts forth effort to acquire power over other should be trusted to wield it. Blink and your eyes will not open. But do not worry, ones death is evidence of wrongdoing.
I just noticed the same thing today for my USAA proof of insurance “card”. Although, in the Wallet app (phone and watch), it clearly states “not official proof of insurance”. However, it has all of the pertinent information displayed, best I can tell.
Regardless of the situation, that’s why I don’t like faceid. Very surprised Apple chose that method. Seems ….foolish.
A physical card is definitely less secure than an iPhone (with umm deference to those who think quantum computers will hack the planet in 3.14 seconds 😀).
Off topic — I’ve tried to tell my super old school neighbor his checkbook and visits to the bank are less secure. He’s still certain my iphone can’t possibly be safe. 🤣
There are a lot of mechanisms in place to determine a fake ID from a real one. Some are more well known than others. It's like counterfeit currency. It would be very easy with limited photoshop skills to replace a picture on an ID. If I can open the photos app and store my fake ID there. There needs to be a process to verify opening the ID app on the phone, that's all I'm saying. It can't just be a still screen.
Because you can’t put the photo in your Wallet; adding a Pass or Digital ID requires a supported app and Photos isn’t one.
I ditched my keys and now only carry the physical Apple Card with me for the smell chance a place doesn’t accept Apple Pay. You can ditch keys right now if you’d like. If only Apple can get Walmart to accept Apple Pay, I’d be golden.
Gaaaah, physician offices.. those are the worst. Every bit of info duplicated stupidly. State wants their form, Feds want theirs, insurers want theirs, and doctor office (being stupid and shallow) wants the exact same info on THEIR form! Wtf people? Just do it once and y’all copy it to the others. My neurologist office finally got kiosks that do exactly that. I barely do anything. Kiosk scans my license, scans my insurance card, and I (sadly) swipe my payment card (yeah, no Apple Pay… soooo close, I know). Best of all, I don’t have to awkwardly check “no, I’m not pregnant or expecting” (because the paper form only has two boxes.. and the Karen behind the desk might get pissy if I, a cis male, leave a box blank).
Soon, I hope all that can be iPhone/Watch-hosted and transmitted to the kiosks or similar. That’d be nice! Of course, all the little doc offices have to get with the times, too… and they can’t, or won’t. Because $.
The physicians are great… but the process is stupid af.