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This is basically a question of who is paying the taxes. The developers are arguing that they don't want to pay VAT on Apple's 30% and that VAT on the total purchase should not be subject to the 70/30 split. I think this could just be resolved with some guidance from the Korean government and a fine to Apple if they were wrong.
 
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That’s what Apple should be doing. That’s not what they are alleged to be doing.

What does maybe mean? Are you unsure of your own statement?
What @Schmitti81 is saying, is that what they are alleged to be doing, isn't what they're actually doing.

I too logged into App Store Connect (i.e. the dev dashboard) and can confirm that I see the same thing @Schmitti81 is seeing, namely that Apple's commission is calculated over the ex-VAT price.
 
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Apple's South Korean headquarters have been raided by antitrust regulators after a complaint was raised by developers that it is charging them over the standard 30% App Store commission rate.

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The dawn raid by the Korea Fair Trade Commission (KFTC) was reported by local media on Monday and covered on Friday by the Foss Patents blog, highlighting the ongoing investigation in the country into Apple's alleged abuse of market power.

The complaint that sparked the raid was reportedly brought by mobile game developers who argued that Apple charges more than the typical 30% commission rate for purchases made in the App Store.

As Foss Patents points out, Apple charges 30% of the price paid by end users, which includes value added tax (VAT), making it 10% higher than the amount on which Google bases its 30% commission, which doesn't include VAT. Apple is therefore collecting 33% (30% of 110%), not the headline 30% rate.

The above also comes into play for the 15% rate applied to small businesses or to subscriptions in the first year: Developers in Korea get charged 16.5% because Apple collects the commission on the gross price which is inclusive of VAT. The additional 3% reportedly amounted to approximately 345 billion won ($240 million) in the period from 2015 to 2020.

It's a similar story in other countries where Apple operates including France and Italy (32.1%), Turkey 35.25%, and the UK (31.5%) when tax is taken into account, although no-one has yet lodged a formal complaint about the practice in any of those countries.

The development means Apple is now being investigated by two Korean government agencies. In August, the Korea Communications Commission (KCC) said that it had conducted an inspection of Apple, Google, and One Store since May 17 to determine if they have violated in-app payment laws, and concluded that all three companies may have done so. If the new probe discovers malpractice, the KCC could issue correction orders and impose fines up to as high as 2% of the average annual revenue from relevant business practices.

In January, Apple announced that it would comply with a new South Korean law that bans app store operators from requiring developers to use their own in-app purchase systems. In late June, the change came into effect, enabling developers to offer alternative payment systems in South Korea.

However, Foss Patents argues that Apple is acting in bad faith by making it prohibitively expensive to use alternate payment services. Apple charges a 26% commission on payments processed by other service providers, meaning that developers using a third-party payment processor in Korea would have a total cost that is about twice as high as if they used Apple's in-app purchases.

Article Link: Apple's Korea Offices Raided by Antitrust Regulators Over Allegations It Charges Developers 33% Commission
Nothing to do with the fact that South Korea is run by Samsung then 😏
 
There is always one waiting everywhere on the internet.

I am envious of them though, they must have good care free lives to be able to spend time correcting such mundane unimportant things. I wish everyone had a great life without real problems like that.


Which would benefit South Korean company, Samsung greatly. This move by South Korea seems kinda antitrust in itself but the government can do what it wants.
I wish the USA did more of this for China. The fact that China has the great firewall is extremely disrespectful and anticompetitive to Western businesses. China should have to pay massive tariffs because of the great firewall but you never hear politicians say anything about it which enrages me.
 
Apple says they paid developers $60,000,000,000 , so they made approx $33,000,000,000, 10% for the supposed overcharging is $3,000,000,000. Looks like the deal of the year for somebody, it ain't the developers.
You need to get on top of your maths at school 😏
 
Yeah, something weird is going on here. You don't raid a company because of something that can be determined with publicly available information. Curious what they were actually after.
Getting information about the magical new Dynamic Island for inclusion in the next Samsung phones.

Of course, I kid.
 
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The jailed CEO was released from jail by South Korea's current president because apparently South Korea can't continue as a going concern without him. So it's not exactly sunshine and democracy.

Pardoning is completely politic and shows nothing of the country's corruptness. The US has its own pardoning system and has had fair shares of controversial ones -- does this mean the US is corrupt too?

Jae Yong Lee is also not part of the board of director of Samsung anymore btw.

And that was just one example. The impeached president is still in jail.
 
What @Schmitti81 is saying, is that what they are alleged to be doing, isn't what they're actually doing.

I too logged into App Store Connect (i.e. the dev dashboard) and can confirm that I see the same thing @Schmitti81 is seeing, namely that Apple's commission is calculated over the ex-VAT price.

What I described is a correct description of the allegation covered by the article. The allegation could be false, or Korea only. Good to hear you’re not seeing it in practice.
 
Well, people would still buy, or not buy it.
It's Apples right to choose the price they want to sell their crap, but being anti-competitive is a nogo by law everywhere.

South Korea is just the start of the saga.
The dominoes have been falling for a couple years now. I remember a number of us being openly mocked & ridiculed when we said that the Fornite incident was just the start of alternative app stores coming into being via legislation etc.

Ray Charles could have seen this coming
 
The tiny people in Korea trying to seem big by saying "look, we can raid western companies!" plus racism in Korea where they're trying to advantage companies like Samsung, all packaged into one unnecessary "dawn raid" as if the white collar nerds in the Korean Apple office are dangerous criminals.

The further irony of this all is that without Apple (who invented the modern smartphone), no one in Korea would have one.
 
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The dominoes have been falling for a couple years now. I remember a number of us being openly mocked & ridiculed when we said that the Fornite incident was just the start of alternative app stores coming into being via legislation etc.

Ray Charles could have seen this coming
Yep, the mills of justice grinds slowly but exceedingly fine.
 
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