Guess it would also depend on the wording of contracts and such, i.e. if by buying the iPhone you were agreeing to enter a deal with O2/Apple for the 18th month contract? I'm not sure how it all works really!
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Guess it would also depend on the wording of contracts and such, i.e. if by buying the iPhone you were agreeing to enter a deal with O2/Apple for the 18th month contract? I'm not sure how it all works really!
don't get into that can of worms again, you heard the terms. We want in writing, an apology for celine dion. When we get that, you get an iPhone...maybe
Yeah, great comparison. That's without a phone and the minutes can only be used after 7pm.
oh well. that wasnt too super, was it?
35quid is what i pay at the minute monthly, and i get 1000 texts, 600 mins on o2. even at that, i still think 35pounds is a bit expensive for a contract phone. and my KRZR sucks ass. so for apple to decide that 35quid is the 'base' rate for the iphone, thats stupid.
how does this compare with AT&T tariffs for the iPhone in the states?
i think i'll go with my original plan, buy american iphone, unlock, and stick my sim into it
check them out. http://www.apple.com/iphone/easysetup/rateplans.html
p.s. you guys have inspired me to listen turn up some old clash and wake up the neighbors. When the cops came, I blamed England, they weren't too thrilled. Good thing I knew them.
you don't need to handle crap to know it's crap.
it's an overpriced crippled phone locked to a lousy network. no thanks.
To be fair my experience with O2 has been great. Better than the other networks. I've had Orange, Vodaphone and T-Mobile. I'd say they were one of the better networks.
Yeah, great comparison. That's without a phone and the minutes can only be used after 7pm.
You have to buy the iPhone too you know.
So the only difference is that you get over twice the texts and way more minutes (but off peak) for less than half the price.
Only an absolute moron would pay the iPhone tariff, it is a rip-off plain and simple. If you're that concerned about off peak minutes you can get 200 minutes and 400 texts for £15. Or 400 minutes and 1,000 texts for £20.
See how bad the iPhone plans are? Bearing in mind all the above ALSO include unlimited data. To be perfectly frank I'm a little disgusted, the iPhone deserves to fail at those prices.
You know, your abuse of potential iPhone customers is getting kind of tiresome.
I want the iPhone. The tariffs are easily within what I can afford. I already pay £35 a month for my Nokia N73 so it is no change for me, but with a far superior phone and unlimited data. I'd be able to find a better deal on another network but no other network is carrying the iPhone. So I will be paying my £35 a month.
If you can get a better deal with another phone, then go ahead and get that. But to constantly abuse those who will still take the bait on this is, well, moronic.
A fool and their money is what they say. You admit you're being ripped off and are happy with it? I, personally, find that a little strange. Just buy a 16Gb iPod touch, it'll cost you a fraction of the iPhone.
No offence is intended with my posts btw. I just can't imagine what kind of person would willingly allow themselves to be ripped off for hundreds of pounds. Even if you can afford it (I can) it's the principle of it.
I agree that the iPhone tariffs are a rip-off.
But you cannot compare off-peak minutes with anytime minutes. I make a large percentage of my calls at peak rates therefore off-peak minutes are completely out of the question.
Then how about 400 mins (on peak) and 1,000 texts for £20?
Does that compare to 200 mins and 200 texts for £35?
If the iPod Touch didn't exist I could understand people being prepared to pay that amount for the iPhone. But as it is you're paying for the convenience of having one device instead of two. For me that isn't really worth the hundred of pounds you end up paying over the odds for an iPhone.
I don't really see it as a rip off though and never said that I did. I see it as a price to entry that I can afford for a service I am prepared to pay for. Sure there are better deals on tariffs elsewhere, but for my needs, unlimited data and free access to the Cloud wifi spots (which I currently pay £11 a month for) plus visual voicemail is not too bad.
The iPhone lets me have one device in my pocket and fits perfectly into my Mac workflow. For me personally, all of this is worth paying a premium for. And yes it is a premium compared to other (inferior to me) phones. It might not be for you, but I ain't here to judge you. So stop judging everybody else.
The iPod Touch can't call people. It cant receive calls. It has no email. It has no bluetooth. It has no camera. It has no speaker. It doesn't have the funky clickbutton on the earphones. It has read-only calendar. It has an inferior screen. It has no hardware volume silencer. And so on and so forth.
You're more than entitled to spend your money as you like, but I would say there would be better ways to spend your money:
16Gb iPod touch: £270
Good digital camera: £200
Phone: £150
Contract: £270 (at £15 a month for 200 mins, 400 texts, unlimited data)
Total: £890
8Gb iPhone: £270
Contract: £630 (at £35 a month for 200 mins, 200 texts, unlimited data)
Total: £900
What's better value?
But it's not even about other networks... you can get better deals on O2. I don't think Manic Mouse is judging people, just suprised!
Now don't get me wrong, I really like the iPhone, I think (from what I've seen) it's a great device and it would fit perfectly into my Mac workflow too... I've bought Apple products for many years now (from powermac's to various iPods to Macbook Pro's etc.) and love them to bits... but the iPhone isn't worth an overpriced data tariff like that...
It's not even the phone... it's the actual contract rate that is absurd!
For me its a no brainer - the iPhone. You honestly asking me to get 3 separate devices?
One device - one thing to charge, one thing to dock
Every aspect syncs with my Mac (cant say this for any other phone)
The UI blows every other phone away
Cant you see what im saying here? I am not interested in any other phone. The iPhone is superior to every one of them for my usage.
Also, where is this £15 a month contract with unlimited data and that many texts/minutes? Am I missing something here?
Indeed. It's not that the contract is expensive, it's that it is literally ridiculous.
Where are the better contracts on O2 with unlimited data? I am an O2 user now and pay through the nose for Data.
They announced today that the unlimited data would be available to all contract customers soon.
For free with the existing contract? Or is it a Bolt on? If its free, my position changes.
Honestly cant see them giving them out for free. They will most likely be a Bolt on.
Still, its good news that O2 has finally got its ass in gear when it comes to Data. I'm scared to actually use Opera on my N73.
The O2 sim-only £15 a month is that tariff.
My point is that you can have a better iPod, better camera and better phone for less money. And yes, the phone will be better because you get more minutes/texts for your money. You go on about how good a phone the iPhone is, but with the paltry amount of texts/mins you get you really aren't going to be able to use this "amazing" phone very much so it's kinda a moot point.
If you want to throw your money away I can't stop you. If having one device rather than three is really THAT important to you then fine.