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To be honest those contract rates look like a normal pay monthly contract with The Cloud's unlimited plan rolled in.

e.g. Vodafone's 225/250 plan is £25. The Cloud's unlimited wifi is £10 per month. Add em up and you get £35 a month for unlimited wifi and 225/250. (I'd check O2's current plans but their site is crawling, so using Vodafone as a comparator)

The 'free' wifi is anything but- they've just rolled it into the O2 contract price...
 
how do you know the £35 is for 200 mins / 200 texts?

its on the O2 website...

And with a different phone on O2 you can now (or will soon be able to get):

Online Leisure 15 - view details
1500 mins
500 texts
£15 a month

w/ unlimited data.

The iPhone tariff is a blatant rip off.
 
Anyone know how long these "exclusive" carrier deals are going on? Or when the iPhone will be at a realistic price with contract?

I honestly can't see it selling well with the most uncompetitive tariff on the market.
 
its on the O2 website...

And with a different phone on O2 you can now (or will soon be able to get):

Online Leisure 15 - view details
1500 mins
500 texts
£15 a month

w/ unlimited data.

The iPhone tariff is a blatant rip off.

Now THAT's a good deal, linky please! I might change my contract to that.
 
Seems like it'll be best to wait for 3g (another 6-12 months) and an increase in capacity. You never know, they might drop the price by a £100 in a couple of months! ;)
 
What other proof has there been?

Sudden reduction in iPhone price which they must have known would cause a ruckus - could only really have been an "emergency" type measure

Crap screens (which also had to go into the iPhone to reduce costs)

Wording and tone when it was unveiled - "customers have been asking for it, so here you go"

Even at that moment when it was released, when all attention should've been on the new iPods, he made sure to point out that the iPhone is better.
 
OFCOM's (UK phone regulators) guidelines on SIM locking:

Current guidelines on SIM-locking

A3.6 The mobile operators’ SIM locking policies should conform to guidelines issued by the European Commission and by Oftel.

A3.7 The European Commission guidance (from 1996) is that:

end-users should be made aware at the time of purchase whether their handsets are locked;
network operators/service providers should tell end-users that unlocking is possible, or provide upon request the information necessary to unlock;
the existence and amount of the handset subsidy (and any conditions for repaying monies due under the contract) should be made clear to customers at the time of purchase; and
handsets need not be unlocked until the subsidy has been repaid.

A3.8 Oftel’s guidance (from 1998) is that:

SIM locking may be justified by objective reasons, including for handsets that are subsidised;
customers should be able to unlock their phones once the handset subsidy recovered, which should in general be by the end of 12 months, if not before; and
any administration fee charged for unlocking should be related to the costs associated with unlocking.


At this sale price, there cannot be much or a subsidy to repay?
 
its on the O2 website...

And with a different phone on O2 you can now (or will soon be able to get):

Online Leisure 15 - view details
1500 mins
500 texts
£15 a month

w/ unlimited data.

The iPhone tariff is a blatant rip off.

Before anyone gets too excited, those are off-peak (7pm-7am) minutes, surely ?
 
Before anyone gets too excited, those are off-peak (7pm-7am) minutes, surely ?


I presume so, didn't have time to read all the terms and conditions before the site crashed (again), but I believe they include some 'peak' minutes... but! for an extra £5 you can get the same contract as the iPhone... well not exactly as you get more texts.

So really don't know why O2 think any one will pay the £35 willingly
 
OFCOM's (UK phone regulators) guidelines on SIM locking:

Current guidelines on SIM-locking

A3.6 The mobile operators’ SIM locking policies should conform to guidelines issued by the European Commission and by Oftel.

A3.7 The European Commission guidance (from 1996) is that:

end-users should be made aware at the time of purchase whether their handsets are locked;
network operators/service providers should tell end-users that unlocking is possible, or provide upon request the information necessary to unlock;
the existence and amount of the handset subsidy (and any conditions for repaying monies due under the contract) should be made clear to customers at the time of purchase; and
handsets need not be unlocked until the subsidy has been repaid.

A3.8 Oftel’s guidance (from 1998) is that:

SIM locking may be justified by objective reasons, including for handsets that are subsidised;
customers should be able to unlock their phones once the handset subsidy recovered, which should in general be by the end of 12 months, if not before; and
any administration fee charged for unlocking should be related to the costs associated with unlocking.


At this sale price, there cannot be much or a subsidy to repay?

This is the best post today - Good one man!
 
argh!

oh well. that wasnt too super, was it?

35quid is what i pay at the minute monthly, and i get 1000 texts, 600 mins on o2. even at that, i still think 35pounds is a bit expensive for a contract phone. and my KRZR sucks ass. so for apple to decide that 35quid is the 'base' rate for the iphone, thats stupid.

how does this compare with AT&T tariffs for the iPhone in the states?

i think i'll go with my original plan, buy american iphone, unlock, and stick my sim into it :):D:D:D:apple:
 
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