With Ive gone hopefully Apple can start making functional computers again.
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Apple's Longtime Design Chief Jony Ive Leaving to Start New Design Company With Apple as a Primary Client
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All the people clamoring for Forstall's return either didn't actually pay attention to Apple back then or are clouded by nostalgia. iOS 6 was incredibly stale, and that stagnation is exactly what the majority of people on these forums complained about in 2012. Not liking the direction that Apple went with iOS 7 and beyond is understandable, but iOS had to evolve and Forstall was clearly reluctant to let that happen.
Someone has to take the fall. Now that they have a goat they can admit it was a failure.
In theory. But in practice, I've never seen it work out terribly well. Keeping talent that doesn't share your goals isn't terribly beneficial, and keeping a former employer with different goals as a client solely to maintain a revenue flow eventually leads to conflict...
I can't wait for the posts in a year or 2 wishing he was still with Apple.
Wow end of an era.
Hopefully it’s not too late to rehire Scott Forestall if he’s willing to return.
Hopefully it’s not too late to rehire Scott Forestall if he’s willing to return.
he's finally going to design that soap dispenser he's always wanted
Good riddance! Without Jobs to reign his designs in, they've become too ego centric, his ego. Like the crappy keyboard and the ultra thin iMac and MacBooks for example.
Hopefully this will allow Apple to explore new form & function ideas that would not be allowed under his name and stewardship.
"Apple will be my primary client..." Sounds like something designed to mollify shareholders. Can't see him being too involved in top-secret future projects from a remote location. Doesn't sound very Apple at all. Bet he'll be on watch strap duty.
A great designer and, for me, a bit sad news - but I believe his team will continue to design great products.
Naw he was pushing things forward. He was let go because of bad blood with Ives and other’s who’ve moved on as well. With them gone, we need someone else with strong opinions.
This explains everything over the past 4 to 5 years. He pretty much checked out long ago.
I wish him the best though. I still think he misses Steve tremendously.
I wish him the best though. I still think he misses Steve tremendously.
Quite the loss. But after 30 years, I can understand why he would try out something new. Would not read too much into it.
nothing lasts forever and it was only a matter of time. Hopefully Apple University or whatever it’s called made headway in the transitioning.
Yeah, kind of an odd choice, functionally. It may just be a temporary arrangement while they seek a replacement.
Good now maybe they can get someone in there that can give us a new design instead of oh the next I phone will be thinner with same poor battery
Good point. Very short memories around here.
Instead of praising him for a long history of innovation that helped get Apple out of the doldrums, sticking with Apple when so many had left, and identified by Jobs as a very special talent, he is mocked.
He should be applauded rather than criticised for a few perceived or actual failings that we don't even know he was responsible for. Maybe the materials experts were responsible for the sub-par plastics of the butterfly key mechanisms?
But hey, 30 years' of efforts are nothing in comparison to a few slip-ups. He should take no credit for helping Apple become the world's best company.
If you think Apple is better off without Jony Ive, one of the greatest industrial designers who ever lived, you are a JACKASS.