Apple's Messages Communication Safety Explained: What You Need to Know

[newbmacuser2021]

Leaning aside that that feature doesn’t even currently exist, it only applies to iCloud Photo Library, not iCloud Drive. And no, Files also shows local files.



I’m not generally in the business of victim-blaming.

“ For example, Facebook searches rely on artificial intelligence that generally detects previously identified images but has trouble detecting new images, videos and livestreaming. Human confirmation is typically needed and most of Facebook’s reports go to non-profit groups such as the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children that are overwhelmed with the avalanche of material they are sent. ”

Facebook At Center Of Storm Over Child Sexual Exploitation Online - 2020 | Proxy Preview

There has been an explosion of child sexual abuse material (CSAM) online and it is likely going to get much worse–unless tech companies take more aggressive action. What was once the province of individual child predators taking photos for their own use has–through the proliferation of smart phones,

www.proxypreview.org

 

[newbmacuser2021]

I personally trust Apple with my data on iCloud.

 

[Phantom iCloud tabs]

This post goes to such lengths to explain Apple’s CSAM debacle that it feels like Apple wrote it.

Well, yeah. Now you're beginning to understand the purpose of this site.

 

[chucker23n1]

“ For example, Facebook searches rely on artificial intelligence that generally detects previously identified images but has trouble detecting new images, videos and livestreaming. Human confirmation is typically needed and most of Facebook’s reports go to non-profit groups such as the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children that are overwhelmed with the avalanche of material they are sent. ”

Facebook At Center Of Storm Over Child Sexual Exploitation Online - 2020 | Proxy Preview

There has been an explosion of child sexual abuse material (CSAM) online and it is likely going to get much worse–unless tech companies take more aggressive action. What was once the province of individual child predators taking photos for their own use has–through the proliferation of smart phones,

www.proxypreview.org

I mean, yeah, but why on earth are you bringing up Facebook?

 

[newbmacuser2021]

If you upload a naked photo of yourself to iCloud, it’s not going to trigger CSAM and it’s not going to be looked at by humans.

1. It is scanned by an algorithm, go check out the People tab in the Photos app on iOS

Use the People & Pets album in Photos on your iPhone or iPad - Apple Support

The Photos app recognizes the faces of people and pets in your photos and groups them together. You can name the people or pets in your photos, mark your favorites, and more.

support.apple.com

2. There is a very small, but hypothetically possible, chance that your iCloud account can be hacked.

If the odds are 1,000,000:1, would you risk it?

 

[newbmacuser2021]

I mean, yeah, but why on earth are you bringing up Facebook?

Most of this CSAM tech is from AIM, MySpace, Facebook, etc.

 

[BugeyeSTI]

iCloud works by generating a key from a known MAC address belonging to the user. You register this device when you log into iCloud, by authenticating with a known device:

Check your Apple Account device list to find where you’re signed in - Apple Support

Learn which devices appear in your Apple Account device list, how to find your device's details (including if it's a trusted device), and how to remove a device.

support.apple.com

That key, generated when Apple asks you to sign in, and then clicking “Allow”, decrypts a hash that protects your data.

Hashing and Public Key Cryptography for Beginners

This article aims to educate beginners about hashing and public key cryptography. If you are involved in blockchain technology, knowledge…

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Ultimately Apple uses your hardware as the key to unlock iCloud. And then your Face or Touch ID as the key to unlock hardware.

But people have been able to hack FaceID…

Apple's iPhone FaceID Hacked In Less Than 120 Seconds

Security researchers attending the annual Black Hat hacker convention in Las Vegas have managed to bypass the iPhone FaceID user authentication in under two minutes.

www.forbes.com

It’s a very low probability that someone could access your iCloud data, but it is possible.

The FaceID hack you've listed isn't realistic in the real world and it actually says that in the article.

 

[newbmacuser2021]

This is how CSAM works:

Convolution

developer.nvidia.com

Have fun!

 

[newbmacuser2021]

The FaceID hack you've listed isn't realistic in the real world and it actually says that in the article.

I completely agree.

But if you’re the President of the USA, you’re probably not going to want to put documents on iCloud, right?

 

[januarydrive7]

This is how CSAM works:

Convolution

developer.nvidia.com

Have fun!

Congrats on revealing you know literally nothing about how the CSAM scanning technique works.

 

[newbmacuser2021]

Congrats on revealing you know literally nothing about how the CSAM scanning technique works.

It’s fairly straight forward. It’s not really scary.

 

[newbmacuser2021]

If you only put porn on an encrypted physical HDD, then no one can access it.

Password is something like:

my_nudies_not_for_you_123

But then you get drunk and forget your password, and now you’re locked out of the HDD too:

How to Password Protect Folders and Files on Mac

Clario ⭐ Do you want to password-protect a folder on your Mac? ✅ Read our article and find out how to encrypt and lock files on your MacBook

clario.co

So you write the password on a piece of paper…

Don’t you see the same logic flaw?

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[januarydrive7]

It’s fairly straight forward. It’s not really scary.

You're right that it's fairly straight forward. You're also right that it's not scary.

You're ignorant to how it actually works.

 

[Thebrochure]

To me, this is pure irony. The fact that a company would sell a device which (by its very nature) allows this sort of abuse to take place while simultaneously trying to help children navigate said abuse is just... too rich.

Maybe we need to rethink these devices all together and recalibrate.

Or maybe not.

Because you know... selfies.

 

[B4U]

I don’t think so… only iMessages via iPhones? I don’t think what’s up or viber is involved.

So, that means the kids can still get to those via other messenger or just use a browser to go to XXX sites. 🤔

 

[newbmacuser2021]

I suppose you could go to great lengths to put an encrypted CD-ROM in a bank vault in Berlin.

And the password in a tomb in Cairo.

Which is basically what Apple is doing.

But I’ve seen too many Mission Impossible films:

 

[newbmacuser2021]

The most plausible scenario of someone seeing your iCloud nudes is when you hand them your phone to take a picture and they start to browse through your Photos app.

Which is incredibly rude, but people do it all the time.

 

[newbmacuser2021]

One last thought on this…

So you say, I’ll hire a guy to watch the physical password in a vault.

OK, well what if that guy steals the password?

So you say, I’ll hire another guy to watch the guy watching my password in a vault.

And to be safe, I’ll hire a third guy, to watch the guy, watching the guy, watching my password in a vault…

 

[ian87w]

What does that have to do with anything?

That guy Seems like a spammy/troll account.

 

[now i see it]

Making it more forbidden will only make the kiddies want to see it more. It’s as if apl has zero experience with kids. Completely out of touch.

 

[ian87w]

I don’t mind this feature at all, and I think this is a great tool for parents. Why?

Because it’s OPT-IN. And you don’t lose any previous functionality of your device/services if you opt-out.

That is in contrast with the CSAM mass scanning where you are forced by having the database shoved into iOS, and you are forced to lose iCloud Photos if you want to opt-out.

 

[ian87w]

Making it more forbidden will only make the kiddies want to see it more. It’s as if apl has zero experience with kids.

Any tools don’t negate the need for actual parenting.

 

[TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️]

So, that means the kids can still get to those via other messenger or just use a browser to go to XXX sites. 🤔

I think so… Apple can’t enforce the feature to the third party apps.

 

[FindingAvalon]

This kind of stuff makes me sad. Instead of building better devices they are coming up with more ways to invade privacy in the name of keeping people safe. Their software is buggy it's going to cause more harm than good.

Sigh…?

 

[FindingAvalon]

The world DOESN'T revolve around the US,..though it appears that every American thinks it does

Your butthurt is showing…