Apple's Messages Communication Safety Explained: What You Need to Know

[JaydenA]

Despite that I doubt many kids use messages... It's good that they removed the parent notification in the initial version. That had the chance to do so much damage, especially for LGBT kids with abusive/religious parents.

Even so, I wonder how many false negatives will happen with harmless beach photos from their best friend. Those kids getting their first blurred warning, which turns out to be a shirtless boy (nipples are the work of the devil after all!) then roll their eyes and ignore the blur warning from then on.

All-in-all, when those points are considered it seems like this is little more than theatre. Give parents a warm and fuzzy feeling, while really not achieving much.

 

[kcslc]

Everybody send pictures of bananas and eggs sunny side up. Hopefully we can make apple’s servers start on fire! ?

 

[KurtMann]

It's an ok feature. It's very hard to implement anything effective that doesn't risk going all Terminator 1984. Maybe it should be time limited, like a purge: One day a year we hunt pedophiles by burning everybody. You see them on the street. You watch them on TV. You might even vote for one this fall. You think they're people like you. You're wrong. Dead wrong.

 

[msp3]

You are being spied on for your own good. Oh will someone think of the children!

 

[B4U]

I think so… Apple can’t enforce the feature to the third party apps.

In other words, status quo.
Except the added on-device spying, I mean scanning. 😓

 

[Slix]

I like this feature being implemented the way it is now. An optional feature to help let parents keep their kids safe while messaging people (friends or not!) is always a good thing when done in a privacy centric way like this.

Still, apparently even with big bold letters and clear wording in the article, many people in this thread have no idea what they are talking about regarding the article they are replying to. ?

 

[FindingAvalon]

You are being spied on for your own good. Oh will someone think of the children!

Are you worried about your mommy and daddy spying on you? ??

 

[jz0309]

This kind of stuff makes me sad. Instead of building better devices they are coming up with more ways to invade privacy in the name of keeping people safe. Their software is buggy it's going to cause more harm than good.

maybe you should read the article and what it is about - comments like yours are simply mind boggling

 

[jz0309]

Making it more forbidden will only make the kiddies want to see it more. It’s as if apl has zero experience with kids. Completely out of touch.

and this kind of comment clearly indicates why such a feature is useful

 

[ian87w]

This kind of stuff makes me sad. Instead of building better devices they are coming up with more ways to invade privacy in the name of keeping people safe. Their software is buggy it's going to cause more harm than good.

As much as I dislike Apple's buggy QA lately, this feature is purely OPT-IN. If you don't like it, you can simply ignore it and nothing is changed.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

The FaceID hack you've listed isn't realistic in the real world and it actually says that in the article.

Security researchers There are a LOT of things that are possible, but what REALLY counts is the ease of the exploit. No one is going to go through what’s described in the article when, in a LOT of cases, all you really need to do is send them an email from “Apple Support” asking for the password to their phone to confirm their identity. Or any one of many, many other easier exploits.

 

[4jasontv]

Not a hot dog.

 

[4jasontv]

Safety for the kids, #1.

What does this mean?

 

[Regbial]

Your butthurt is showing…

*looks at the sad state of healthcare and rent/dying housing market in the US* ...yes people should be jealous of living the US... lol...

 

[Millah]

The iPhone is like a Nintendo Switch.
An Android is like a MacBook Pro.

It’s sort of clear where Apple is going with iOS:

- CSAM
- Apple Arcade
- Apple TV+
- Memoji

And it’s also clear where Apple is going with macOS

- SD Cards
- Magsafe
- USB-C
- Side-loading .DMG

It’s almost like each platform fulfills its own purpose….shocking!!

 

[AndiG]

Apples next step towards client side scanning. First, parents want it to protect their children. Next China wants it to educate its people. After that, every government in the whole world wants client side scanning to break privacy - just for fighting terroriscm and abuse, of course.

Did you know in some states free speech is considered to be terrorism?

 

[NC12]

Most kids have Android phones anyway

Maybe where you live. I usually see kids with iPhones here in western Canada

 

[FindingAvalon]

*looks at the sad state of healthcare and rent/dying housing market in the US* ...yes people should be jealous of living the US... lol...

I can guarantee for most it’s better than where you come from, that’s for sure.

 

[FindingAvalon]

Apples next step towards client side scanning. First, parents want it to protect their children. Next China wants it to educate its people. After that, every government in the whole world wants client side scanning to break privacy - just for fighting terroriscm and abuse, of course.

Did you know in some states free speech is considered to be terrorism?

Nice demonstration of your complete lack of comprehension of what this is and how it works.

 

[H2SO4]

The children are not under Apples control, they are under their PARENTS control, rightfully so.. read the article!

If they aren't using an app that gives them the control to restrict then they're still not really under parents control are they?
My kids and most kids I know for that matter don't use messages.
They use WhatsApp, Snapchat, Tiki's Tok and lots of others things that don't have this capability.

I can't remember the last time that any of my kids were on messages.

 

[Regbial]

I can guarantee for most it’s better than where you come from, that’s for sure.

umm... not really... I live in the "richest" part of my country which... in most ways is better than most of the US, sorry. It's basically California 2 without the high taxes, bad infrastructure (lol, you have to DRIVE everywhere in the US, it's sad...), and horrible housing crisis.

At least my country has less homeless people than the US, as do most countries... (think about that for a second...)

 

[herr__alex]

Using iCloud Private Relay is like hiding a CD-ROM of naked selfies in your Grandmother’s linen closet, hoping Nanna doesn’t change the bed sheets any time soon.

What the hell are you talking about? Like every post from u is about another topic and has absolutely nothing to do with the article

 

[herr__alex]

This is how CSAM works:

Convolution

developer.nvidia.com

Have fun!

Thats not how CSAM works!

 

[Morichan]

"Naked photos and videos show the private body parts that are usually covered by underwear."

Thanks for the fun fact. I didn’t know that was possible.

 

[cyanite]

The parents are more often than not, the offenders.

The offenders of sending their own children nudes, that they now how to click a few times to see? I fail to see how that’s a problematic scenario.

Does it also apply for other messaging apps though? ?

Almost certainly not.

Moving forward, Kids won't use Messages, they'll migrate to WhatsApp OR whatever, to get out from under Apple's control.

I doubt hordes of young kids will switch out of iMessage because it’s slightly more annoying to receive a nude picture.

Instead of building better devices they are coming up with more ways to invade privacy in the name of keeping people safe.

I think you need to read the article again.

All Macs sold since 2018 contain the T2 chip

Not since M1. Not that it has anything to do with this topic.

Making it more forbidden will only make the kiddies want to see it more.

Wanting to see it more than now where they directly see it?