You clearly don’t understand how paedophiles work. That’s a good thing I suppose.
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Apple's Messages Communication Safety Explained: What You Need to Know
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Nice article. For safety of children, can be a good measure. Extremely good to know that it is only opt-in.
smoking monkey
macrumors 68020
In Japan the vast majority of people under 18 use an iPhone, but they don't use iMessage. They use Line. It hasn't stopped them from buying an iPhone or wanting one. I don't think it matters to younger people because they are brand conscious.
And I doubt they'll use another app to get out from Apple's control. They'll use another app because that's what is trendy for them or what all their friends use. Kids don't think about tech controlling them. It's not a thought that enters their heads.
chucker23n1
macrumors G3
Sounds plausible (well, AIM hasn't been a thing in years, but sure), but what does that have to do with anything? You were arguing that you can't keep private photos on your iPhone, or something.
There are far more kids in the world, than kids in the US, so his statements holds true. Most kids do use Android.
I think it's great that Apple took our concerns seriously and released a feature in a way that its both useful while not invading the child's privacy and leaving them in control. Kudos to Apple!
wanha
macrumors 68030
You're not alone. After reading about the 5th nonsensical comment of his under this article, I swiftly clicked "ignore" on his profile.
Life's too short.
I think you need to explain it, then. How will this particular feature do harm to children who are sexually abused by their parents (say)? How exactly will a feature that merely makes it slightly more difficult for a child to see an image do that?
chucker23n1
macrumors G3
MacBH928
macrumors G3
"This Photo is currently being scanned by our servers and being shared with 3rd parties to ensure your safety and privacy"
fwmireault
macrumors 68020
This is straight up false information. Please read the article before making that kind of statement. This is not CSAM.
FindingAvalon
macrumors regular
What you know about the U.S. wouldn’t fill a thimble. That’s what’s really sad. It’s funny that you mention California, a single state that has the 5th largest economy on earth. Beats yours hands down.
VulchR
macrumors 68040
I think Apple's proposal for CSAM scanning was monumentally stupid. This feature, in contrast, seems reasonable enough. I do worry about how it could be adapted to detecting other things like flags, anti-government memes, faces of minority groups, etc. but maybe this will tell us how accurate this kind of local scanning can be. I can't wait to see the galleries of false positives that people will inevitably post.
I think we have to think about where this kind of technology (local AI on mobile devices) is going. I believe we will be the last generation able to keep AI from spiralling out of control and we need to think about what constraints to put on it.
I think we have to think about where this kind of technology (local AI on mobile devices) is going. I believe we will be the last generation able to keep AI from spiralling out of control and we need to think about what constraints to put on it.
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Don’t worry it’s only enabled for kids.
6 months later………..
Don’t worry it’s only to catch pervs.
6 months later
Don’t worry it’s only to catch left handers.
6 months later……..
6 months later………..
Don’t worry it’s only to catch pervs.
6 months later
Don’t worry it’s only to catch left handers.
6 months later……..
Dionte
macrumors 6502a
They could make a separate iPhone for kids with an alt operating system full of spyware like this and leave the regular phones for adults with no picture spyware or device scanning. Call it iKids and make it so they can only contact the people that birthed them and approved sources.
They essentially did, since this is only active for child accounts added to a family account. Hence, a phone for kids.
Also it’s not spyware as no information leaves the device.
Runequester
macrumors regular
Your wireless carrier already knows exactly where you are at any given moment, and will give this information to your government at a moments notice. Any website you visit will happily turn over this information as well, when requested to by law. And your VPN is probably lying to you.
What OS you run on your phone matters absolutely nothing in this regard.
AndiG
macrumors 65816
So well, explain it to me ..-
I always thought that the framework scans for nudity and informs a third party. So you do say that this is not correct?
This framework is the foundation. At the moment it may only contact a family member. But a third party is a third party. The framework could be extended very easily to contact the authorities as well - it is just a tiny step away.
I guess you just don‘t know what software is and how it works.
AndiG
macrumors 65816
Yeah. I mean children have absolutely no idea about other apps, or lets say airdrop.
So this client side scanning is only one of the first steps, other apps need to include it as well. Hey, even Safari needs to implement it, to stop children from sharing links.
It seems this scans for nudity to tells the recipient that it might contain nudity. No informing takes place.
This isn't doing anything that existing infrastructure in iOS has already been capable of doing for over a decade. I guess you just don't know what software is and how it works.
I'd defiantly buy that for children, locked down to just key people etc & full parental control.
It's dangerous trying to turn an iPad off when a child has it, far safer to do it remotely from a web page or another idevice. We currently have to resort to turning the BB off which is no goo when trying to work or stream.