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I'm both Android and iOS user and I love both OS's (only after I jailbreak and root them), but I feel really pity for those diehard Android fanboys, hating so much on a brand and making so much effort expressing it everywhere online. They really need better things to do..
Yeah, there's no crazy hate going in the other direction on this forum. Certainly not someone expressing pity because some group needs to find "better things to do", that's not at all hypocritical.
 
Yeah, there's no crazy hate going in the other direction on this forum. Certainly not someone expressing pity because some group needs to find "better things to do", that's not at all hypocritical.

...The good ol' they're all the same and in the same numbers even though that flies in the face of actual reality here, and elsewhere on the net.

The trolling poster (voluntary button pushing in a place where someone with adverse position exist) has been on the rise non stop for the last 20 years everywhere (And longer if you include news group in pre-www days). This "rise of the troll" is the reason why comment sections have been closed down all over the internet.

We are talking about someone registering on this site, and posting only extremely negatively in the most over the top way (not just mere complaining) about Apple (or any other popular product/service/issue on other sites) for years, from their very first posts until their very last, and still claiming they actually bought an Apple product after they called the company scum countless times for years sometimes. On this site, such posters can't hide; their history reveals intent, which is being crap-stirrers.
 
I just read through a bunch a of reviews of Google Search and didn't find anything as insane as the ones left for Move to iOS. So whatever point you're trying to make, its' incorrect.
Really? Try reading the first reviews of Google Photos or Google+. There were plenty of 1 star reviews saying Google is the devil and spaying on all your pictures and data. Heck, the Nest app has plenty of reviews saying Google is watching your every move (I doubt most of those reviewers even have a nest thermostat). You don't see them easily because Apple doesn't show those types of unhelpful reviews first.
 
True. Of course you're going to get sour grapes on both sides. The difference here is the proportion of one to the other. Proportionally, Android users have proven to be worse, which is reflected in the rating.
Doubtful. I would hazard apps like Google search and Google photos on iOS have many more 1 star reviews (that have nothing to do with the app) overall. The difference is those apps have been available for so long the good reviews drown them out. Clearly, in this case, it struck a cord because Apple's app is designed to help you move to iOS. Google really doesn't have such an app on iOS. I suspect if they did, it would have the same type of bad reviews.
 
Really? Try reading the first reviews of Google Photos or Google+. There were plenty of 1 star reviews saying Google is the devil and spaying on all your pictures and data. Heck, the Nest app has plenty of reviews saying Google is watching your every move (I doubt most of those reviewers even have a nest thermostat). You don't see them easily because Apple doesn't show those types of unhelpful reviews first.
Hey man, don't ruin their narrative. To them only Google has rabid diehard fans that dislike everything Apple.

Apple certainly couldn't have those types of fans. /s
 
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14k out of 17k of the reviews were 1 star, according to the screen shot posted above. I think it gives an idea the percentage of the insecure fanboy bunch. It really is sad.

If you add up reviews from insecure Apple fanboys and reviews from insecure Android fanboys, they probably add up to 16.5k of 17k reviewers.
 
Yeah, and if Google made an app for moving to iOS (and Apple allowed it in) there wouldn't be a lot of 1 star ratings because it's about moving to Android.

Google's migration app would probably never be approved by Apple. Being a walled garden and all.
 
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'You can recycle this Android phone for free at any Apple Store'

Is there an Android burning party after hours at the Apple Store! :p
 
if a person is moving to iOS from Android, I don't think an app following Google's design guidelines is in their radar at all!
 
Hey man, don't ruin their narrative. To them only Google has rabid diehard fans that dislike everything Apple.

Apple certainly couldn't have those types of fans. /s

The "pseudo neutral observer" comment... (an annoying trope) doesn't hide were you stand...
Thanks for clearing this up so I can avoid your future posts.
 
Its not a legitimate reason to give it one star, as it has nothing to do with the app being reviewed.

It is a legitimate reason to complain about Apple's practises though. The irony of Apple not allowing a mention of Android in an iOS app, while creating their own app for Android to convert customers over (that would mention iOS and Apple countless times) hasnt been lost on me.

No not really, the point of a review is to review the functionality / usability of the app not for complaining about company practices or how it actually coded the app...
 
Watching ranting and heated debating about such topics would sometimes be a Good Fun.

Forgive me, god, as I enjoy the evil side of the world. ;)
 
It's funny how iPhone users can appreciate using Google apps like Google Maps, Gmail, etc. on an iPhone. God forbid Apple try to get any of its apps on an Android device they revolt just because they hate anything Apple. I guarantee Apple Music will be met with similar 1 star reviews from Android users who've had zero desire to even try it. Really really really silly.
 
A rebranded app just shows that apple is not committed to anything outside their products. Taking shortcuts (again) where it can. Have some pride in your work.

Good, Apple should be focussed on their own products, not outside ones. Let them contract someone with a proven Android app record instead of reinventing the wheel and wasting time on a half baked app. This is a very smart shortcut they should've taken.

So Google should not make iOS apps then? Same for MS?

While I think its easier to make apps for iOS, its not to say Apple shouldn't expand their reach.

Difference is Google and MS are primarily software companies and it's in their best interests to make iOS apps, whereas Apple is hardware first and they're not concerned with Android apps for the most part.
 
Because Android users secretly wish they had an iPhone, hence the whole "we hate Apple" sort of attitude. Unfortunately they can't afford an iPhone and they turn that love into hate so they subconsciously still have a relationship with the brand that everyone else around them is talking about. Can't scientifically explain why, maybe my psychologist wife can...

Edit: grammar

Ah that old chestnut. People only use Android phones because they cant afford iPhones. :rolleyes:
 
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Let me get this straight. This is a copy of another app on the Android store that got 4/5 reviews. All they did was slap an Apple skin on it and mention the concept of jumping ship from iOS to Android and the app gets 1/5 from 12,000 out of 15,000 reviewers? And their only complaint is that it mentions Apple and has iOS artwork? But the app functions completely and is bug-free?

Where there you have it folks. Statistical, factual proof that 80% of Fandroids are the true 'mindless sheep' they so adruosly claim iOS and Apple fans are.

Ironic and deliciously satisfying. I wonder if they realize, in an attempt to take a stab at Apple, they shot themselves in the foot.

How did you work that statistic out?

Quick search shows roughly 950,000,000 Android users. So in comparison that means 0.0012% rated this app. :rolleyes:
 
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Really? Try reading the first reviews of Google Photos or Google+. There were plenty of 1 star reviews saying Google is the devil and spaying on all your pictures and data.

But those complaints about privacy of user data are actually relevant to the applications being reviewed. That's not the same thing at all.
 
Obviously iOS has some influences from Android, but not the fundamental framework of how the entire interface works. It just always makes me laugh. Someone saying "I hate Apple products!" While typing on a glass multitouch display virtual keyboard that has the letters appear above your finger when pressed, inside of a WebKit browser, scrolling with momentum based physics that makes the page feel like it's floating, inside of a black or white rectangular slate that has the entire front surface covered by glass including the bezels.

Insightful comment, although actually Google switched the rendering engine for Chrome from WebKit to Chromium Blink more than two years ago (Blink still retains some WebCore code from WebKit, IIRC).
 
Good, Apple should be focussed on their own products, not outside ones. Let them contract someone with a proven Android app record instead of reinventing the wheel and wasting time on a half baked app. This is a very smart shortcut they should've taken.



Difference is Google and MS are primarily software companies and it's in their best interests to make iOS apps, whereas Apple is hardware first and they're not concerned with Android apps for the most part.

Not necessarily. MS did a good job by forcing you to buy Windows to use their other apps. Google could do the same.
 
No. Google Apps in the App Store have good reviews. And the Apple haters/Androd fanboys FAR outnumber Apple fanboys. This is why tech blogs have learned that click bait articles about Apple generate the most clicks.

Agreed. Apple users give competing services a fair shot: gmail, ms office, etc. All well reviewed. Android fans are especially rabid

Actually I don't think the analogy is valid. For example, if Apple decided to make Pages or Numbers cross platform, and added it to the Play Store, I would say it would be treated equivalent to how Google apps are treated in the App Store.

The equivalent of a "Move to iOS app" would be a "Move to Android" app in the App Store that provided no functionality besides moving your data to the other platform, and then at the bottom, had a quote that said "Feel free to toss your iPhone into the garbage can afterwards, because it's trash anyways". If such an app did exist, it would have the same ratio of one star ratings in the App Store too.

The reason why your analogy is invalid is because:

  1. Google productivity app's main goal is not to convince you to switch to the other platform.
  2. Google's apps provide other functionality besides switching to the other platform — functionality that iOS users not looking to switch actually need and find useful.
  3. The title of Google's apps do not explicitly tell users of one platform to move to the other platform.

Given that Apple's app is the opposite of all three of the bullet points listed above, is it unfathomable why Android users (most of which probably like the current platform that they're using) would want to rate the app lowly. Even if you could resist giving the hypothetical "Move to Android" app a one star rating, without being intellectually dishonest to yourself, do you think that the majority of iOS users, especially those that really like iOS and those that really dislike Android, would resist from giving it a one star rating?
 
The "pseudo neutral observer" comment... (an annoying trope) doesn't hide were you stand...
Thanks for clearing this up so I can avoid your future posts.

Good for you, you went and made a post about how you are going to ignore me. Do you feel better now?
 
How did you work that statistic out?

Quick search shows roughly 950,000,000 Android users. So in comparison that means 0.0012% rated this app. :rolleyes:
The percentage is based on those that reviewed the app, not all Android users, but you can apply these figures to the entire population.

The exact math is 12,000/15,000 = 80% of the people that reviewed the app flamed it for the wrong reasons - ala sheepish Fandroids.

It's called a 'representative sample' in statistics. According to why we know about staticial formulas/models and the standard deviation curve, if you have at least 1,500 data points, you can extrapolate data to the entire population with only a 3% margin of error. There are 15,000 data points in this case, so the margin of error is much lower.

To be fair, you could argue that this may not truly be the best 'representative' or random sample of you include 'review bias' in that people only tend to rate apps or give really bad or really good feedback based on emotion, but the statistics are still very telling.
 
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The percentage is based on those that reviewed the app, not all Android users, but you can apply these figures to the entire population.

The exact math is 12,000/15,000 = 80% of the people that reviewed the app flamed it for the wrong reasons - ala sheepish Fandroids.

It's called a 'representative sample' in statistics. According to why we know about staticial formulas/models and the standard deviation curve, if you have at least 1,500 data points, you can extrapolate data to the entire population with only a 3% margin of error. There are 15,000 data points in this case, so the margin of error is much lower.

To be fair, you could argue that this may not truly be the best 'representative' or random sample of you include 'review bias' in that people only tend to rate apps or give really bad or really good feedback based on emotion, but the statistics are still very telling.

Yeah, that's all well and good, but if you're going to tarnish all Android users as some previous posters have, then you need to put it into perspective as per my calculations.
 
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