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Apple's New 16-Inch MacBook Pro to Replace Current 15-Inch Model, Will Cost 'About the Same'
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It's a huge proprietary single-purpose port that rests on one side of the device.
It makes a lot of sense. Their last few models have been slated more or less on release and recent sales have been slipping. They need to reclaim the space of best laptop or they will continue to slide. Best way to do that is to release a great new machine they really got right and keep the price the same. They possibly also want owners of recent models to upgrade as those recent models costing them a lot in repairs. Right before Black Friday too. All they have to do here is not screw up something and they will sell crazy numbers of these things.
If you've ever seen the inside of an Macbook, iPad, iPhone you know that the answer is yes. Upgradability or big IO ports means it's gonna be thicker, heavier and less desirable for the 99% that's not interested in upgrading.
I'm still hoping forlornly for a surprise 120fps display to be included.
I agree - if they get this right, they’ll sell a lot of these. I’ve been ready to pull the trigger for a couple of years and I suspect there’s a lot out there like me who held off the current line up. I’m desperate for a new machine - so if it looks A-OK would you all mind forming an orderly queue behind me? 😉
Everyone keeps talking about the starting price. Who cares about the starting price? Almost nobody buys the base model because it’s almost always intentionally too low-specced. We should hope that a well-equipped model is under $3k. I don’t care what they start at.
I can justify $3k if I can get 3 years of solid performance and battery life out of it.
I can justify $3k if I can get 3 years of solid performance and battery life out of it.
I hear you; personally—for all it matters lol—I’m not against a lower power CPU with a large screen; I wish they would have offered a 14” MacBook, and was very disappointed when the cancelled the 12”.
The problem is that Apple needs a certain average selling price across all the various configs of the 16” to make their margin. So the question boils down to, would you be willing to pay $2,499 for that CPU as a base model, i.e. the same price as the much more powerful 45W entry level. And would there be enough demand to make it a viable option?
There are also technical issues in this specific case, since the CPU you propose is in a different package (BGA1528 vs. BGA1440) so it means engineering a new motherboard; that alone makes it a non-starter.
In any case, it would sure have great battery life, even if they ran it at the TDP-up of 25W. But yikes it’s got a 1.1GHz base clock. That’s kind of brutal. 😬 (Though with the cooling capacity of the 45W CPU, which has a 2.6GHz base clock, they could probably do better than one might think, especially at light to medium loads.)
Didn't Gruber say 16.0"? But an actual (effective) price cut by making Vega and/ or 512GB the standard at long last would be very welcomeThe screen size bump will definitely be noticeable, 15.4” —> 16.4”. Put in monetary terms, it’s like the $2,399 base model increasing to $2,729.
So on a pixel by pixel basis, the 15” MBP is getting a larger screen, a more reliable keyboard with a physical escape key, and a price cut
i think the current base model mbp + 32gb of ram instead is a already a beast of a machine.Didn't Gruber say 16.0"? But an actual (effective) price cut by making Vega and/ or 512GB the standard at long last would be very welcome
You should care, because the starting price is where you start adding extra $$ to get to what you consider “well-equipped”. If it starts at $2,799, how much do you think well-equipped would be 😬
Sounds like it’ll start at about $2,500-2,600. Configure a well-equipped 15” and add a couple hundred bucks. That’s the price for the 16”.
The interesting thing at the moment is the 10nm U series hexacore chip (i7-10710U) must be nipping at the heels of the 14nm H series i7 - You can TDP up the 15W chips to 25W for better sustained performance as well.
I'm late to this, but: Didn't see anything rumored about the processor inside. Could this be our very first ARM notebook with an A13X or so?
That's more likely to happen at WWDC after they've talked about the software/ developer implications of a transition (and actually confirmed its happening).
I actually ended up giving up on MacBook Pros because of the price hike on the Mac Pro (which meant I couldn't be entirely within the ecosystem as the iMac is inadequate for my needs), so I went ahead and bought a Razer Blade 15 Advanced with the 2080 Max Q, and let me tell you... if Apple made a laptop like that, even if it was $300 more and more reliable, with the 2012 keyboard, I would be all over that thing.smelts like 2080 Max Q
It's thin (about the same as the 2012-2015 models), 6 hours of battery life, the CPU is 6 cores and very good, and it's got the RTX 2080 max-Q and let me tell you that thing absolutely ****ing screams. It lands in at around 6 TFLOPs, which is around 3 times faster than the Vega GPU's in the Macbooks. Paired with the 4K OLED display, it's a sight to behold.
Apple right now: Overpriced, mediocre hardware (typically bad hardware choices like 4 TB3 ports or butterfly switches or the touchbar or crazy overheating or throttling) on an awesome OS. It annoys me more than it probably should.
I will be more than interested to see how much better it will be than my fully equipped mid 2012 MBP, which has 16 RAM, 750 SSD, 2.7 I7, NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M.
That was a beast when it came out, and was US$ 4400,-
Changed battery once, and had some free repairs by Apple, but other than that never let me down, and still using it daily.
After more than 7 years, that is a US$ 628,- per year for a great laptop. Not too shabby.
I understand the video and photo and music editors in the "pro-world" would not last that long with the very same machine, but then how many are really in that need? As somebody above said for many of us bigger screen might already be a reason to buy a 16" or 17" (what a lovely screen estate that was!
Anyway, let see what this week is bringing us!
That was a beast when it came out, and was US$ 4400,-
Changed battery once, and had some free repairs by Apple, but other than that never let me down, and still using it daily.
After more than 7 years, that is a US$ 628,- per year for a great laptop. Not too shabby.
I understand the video and photo and music editors in the "pro-world" would not last that long with the very same machine, but then how many are really in that need? As somebody above said for many of us bigger screen might already be a reason to buy a 16" or 17" (what a lovely screen estate that was!
Anyway, let see what this week is bringing us!
