Apple's New 27-Inch iMacs Experiencing Performance Issues?

[decksnap]

Welcome to the World of PowerPC Snow Leopard users!​

Almost all of these problems have persisted on Leopard 10.5.8 for PowerPC Macs for a long long time.

#1: I file Safari crash reports daily, most are Flash related, but not all, some are also Javascript related.

#2: Flash performance on even a Dual Core G5 is ridiculously sluggish compared to even an OLD Pentium 4 PC! I've done the comparison, it's embarrassing.

#3: Disk permissions are always corrupted. Some people claim this doesn't cause problems, but my experience comparing Tiger, Leopard, & now Snow Leopard suggests to me otherwise.

ONLY TIGER WILL RUN FOR MONTHS & MONTHS WITHOUT A CRASH OR KERNEL PANIC OR PERSISTENT SPINNING BEACHBALLS THAT REQUIRE A REBOOT!

#4: The MAIL program is also sluggish and often spins the beachball. When the original carbon/MacOS 9 compatible AOL program & the newer AOL client send mail & attachments faster than Apple's MAIL program, guess what?
HOUSTON, WE HAVE A PROBLEM!

So, please Apple, can I get a side order of 10.5.9 with my 10.6.2 please?

PS: The last time I complained about any of these issues I was warned by the MacRumors moderators for SPAMMING the board! LOL

Paybacks are a biATCH aren't they fanbois?

I hate to say it but the flash comments here are true. Flash has been garbage since upgrading to Leopard. Let's be frank - flash was weak under Tiger (thanks adobe)... but Leopard has made it garbage. (thanks apple)

Anybody saying G5 users should upgrade is simply forgetting the specs of a G5 powermac. Way more power is there than is required on the windows side for flawless playpack. I don't know who to thank anymore. Adobe has obviously always wrote **** code for the mac - fire those people, jesus, what does it take??? - but Apple seems to be piling on now too.

 

[RazHyena]

If Apple are clever, they will be looking into this very closely and getting a fix for it in the next few days - holiday season is round the corner, the last thing they want is for their inventory in stores/warehouses to be doubling in returns.

Agreed.

All the people whining about how it's Adobe's problem can't seem to understand, for whatever reason, that's it's BOTH Adobe AND Apple's problem. It's in Apple's best interest to try to work with Adobe to get this fixed....if they expect their expensive AIO to stand up to all the dopey Acers and Dells at Walmart that don't seem to have this issue.

Nice accent, BTW. I like your channel.

 

[thejadedmonkey]

It's not a flash player issue guys!

I run Flash on my XP box, and it's not crap at all. Flash runs fine, hardly uses any resources, there's no issues with it at all.

On my Leopard machine, flash runs... like flash on OS X. It gets my case hot, but otherwise runs fine.

Get off the anti-adobe bandwagon peeps, it just makes you look stupid.

 

[ikir]

Flash = crap

Yes i agree, but Apple must fix these bugs. I hope 10.6.2 is released soon, anyway it is normal: new products have always little software issues.

 

[kwikdeth]

Whatever you say, dude.

gotta go with the OP. I use macs at home, RH, CentOS and about 4 flavors of Windows at my job as a sysadmin at an internet company. Trust me, it's true. Flash Sucks. At least now it does.

The technology itself isnt the issue, in theory Flash is a lightweight and portable platform for content. but the real problem is twofold: Adobe bloating it up with all kinds of things that are of questionable use, which then leads to the second issue which is that a lot of content creators dont know how to encode content properly. How is it I can watch two different uploads of the same music video on youtube, and one plays fantastic while the other pegs out my CPU meter to 100% and slows the machine to a crawl? Its true on any platform. mac, pc, whatever. I see it multiple times every day.

Bloat + Idiots = Flash Fail. There's your answer.

 

[ikir]

It's not a flash player issue guys!

I run Flash on my XP box, and it's not crap at all. Flash runs fine, hardly uses any resources, there's no issues with it at all.

On my Leopard machine, flash runs... like flash on OS X. It gets my case hot, but otherwise runs fine.

Get off the anti-adobe bandwagon peeps, it just makes you look stupid.

Flash sucks. Stop. But this is another issue.

Flash on OSX sucks and this is an Adobe fail. Flash on Windows is much more better but still not an Apple fault. Got it?

 

[daveporter]

This sluggish Flash playback problem (as well as the high CPU use issue when playing Flash content) has existed on my Mac Pro ever since I upgraded to Snow Leopard. I have noticed that the larger your monitor (I have the 30" Cinema Monitor on my Mac Pro) the worse the problem is. On our 15" MacBook Pro the problem is barely noticeable, on our 24" iMac the problem appears somewhat worse and on the Mac Pro it is very noticeable.

None of these three macs had any such issues with Leopard. All three started exhibiting this problem as soon as I upgraded to Snow Leopard on each one. The problem is related to Snow Leopard's support for Flash.

 

[AidenShaw]

Second, if everyone blocked these "crappy drop-down ads that you NEVER wanna see," most sites will ether disappear, or demand payment to view them. And this includes MacRumors.

Then it's a good thing that I pay to read MacRumours - so that my flash blocker doesn't put them out of business.

LOL. I want to know which Apple store sells the macs that work as good as all the fanboys say. I must be shopping at the wrong one.

Thank you to all who suggested ClickToFlash! I am using it now and I will continue to use it until/IF Adobe* gets their act together on this CPU hog.

IE8 has the builtin ability to toggle Flash - you have to get a 3rd party add-on for Apple OSX?

Brilliant bit of troubleshooting and deduction there. Of course you had a headstart knowing, a priori, that it can't possible be Apple's fault. Maximum Reality Distortion Field demo. Thanks !

*LTD* seems to live in the Alternate RDF Universe.

Exactly. I wonder if these are the same people who will carp endlessly about how bad Quicktime and iTunes are on Windows and how that's all Apple's fault.

Is it not Apple's fault that Quicktime and Itunes are bloated pigs on Windows?

If you haven't noticed, flash sucks on all platforms. You're debating Flash but singling out the 27" models which makes your arguments invalid.

Actually, on an Atom nettop flash runs fine when Windows is loaded, but with Linux it's unwatchable.

If I have to turn on Flash just to navigate a website you can be sure I'll never buy anything from that company.

Please, please click the "feedback" button if the website has one to let them know that you're going elsewhere because of the flash website.

Please. Please.

 

[Toxman]

Strange. Flash is totally utterly awful under SL on ALL Macs.

I wish that people would stop making ridiculous, wild generalisations like this. Flash is not "totally utterly awful under SL" on my early 2008 MBP. Nor is it "totally utterly awful" on my Dad's mid-2009 24" iMac.

Agreed, some people have issues, but it's a long way from affecting *every* mac running SL.

 

[Freis968]

I went to the local Best Buy tonight and got on the new 27" iMac, fired up yuotube and it played several videos perfectly. I even pulled up the identical video the person was watching that was posted here and that played fine as well.

 

[Drag'nGT]

So the bug is in either the OS or the Flash Player.... why is it only happening in certain computers? My flash video seems to work great after the update Adobe pumped out after Snow Leopard's launch. So are the computers of my friends... so

 

[MorphingDragon]

Actually, on an Atom nettop flash runs fine when Windows is loaded, but with Linux it's unwatchable.

Whats the CPU usage? The Box at work has a sempron and it hangs around 50% playing flash on windows.

BTW, I've complained many times to many companies about flash but it seems the University Student programmers dont know how to use anything else.

 

[Ubuntu]

I went to the local Best Buy tonight and got on the new 27" iMac, fired up yuotube and it played several videos perfectly. I even pulled up the identical video the person was watching that was posted here and that played fine as well.

Well that doesn't really mean much, in all respect. That's like my friend's car breaking down, and then me taking him to a showroom and showing him the same car, but without the faults.

I don't think it said that every new iMac was having this issue.

 

[Rot'nApple]

Instead of "Here's Your Sign"... "Here's Your Store"!

LOL. I want to know which Apple store sells the macs that work as good as all the fanboys say. I must be shopping at the wrong one.

Here's the "store" I got my white iMac back in 2006, that I still use to this day and had Tiger OS, upgraded to Leopard OS, and can say, "It just works!"

http://store.apple.com/us

 

[appletea]

Flash "A bag of ****" - SJ

 

[RazHyena]

gotta go with the OP. I use macs at home, RH, CentOS and about 4 flavors of Windows at my job as a sysadmin at an internet company. Trust me, it's true. Flash Sucks. At least now it does.

The technology itself isnt the issue, in theory Flash is a lightweight and portable platform for content. but the real problem is twofold: Adobe bloating it up with all kinds of things that are of questionable use, which then leads to the second issue which is that a lot of content creators dont know how to encode content properly. How is it I can watch two different uploads of the same music video on youtube, and one plays fantastic while the other pegs out my CPU meter to 100% and slows the machine to a crawl? Its true on any platform. mac, pc, whatever. I see it multiple times every day.

Bloat + Idiots = Flash Fail. There's your answer.

It's confusing, but it's definitely irresponsible to automatically blame Flash for it, calling them idiots and such. That isn't logical protocol for troubleshooting anything, especially when most systems run the plugin just fine. Trying to convince me or anyone else that Flash is crap is irrelevant to this thread.

Again, I don't know why people insist on bringing up Windows and Ubuntu and how oh so bad Flash runs on them. We're talking about the iMac. How it's expensive, and how it can't keep up with an established media plugin. Honestly, I'm sure this problem is going to be fixed very quickly. As I said before, the youtube vid's creator mentioned it was because of an Airport issue...which is on APPLE'S END. But, whatever.

 

[Drag'nGT]

Flash "A bag of ****" - SJ

Agreed, but no one wants to change.
At least until it's too late.

 

[kingtj]

Sure, but ...

The bad thing is, new Mac buyers don't generally have the "faith" built up in Apple to do the right thing in a case like this. They hear all the hype about Macs being better and "practically trouble-free", drop the money for one of these, and immediately have big problems.

As someone who's been using Macs for a long time, I'm comfortable knowing that A) most "revision A" Apple products have issues, and B) because said products are still new, Apple always makes it a priority to figure them out and fix them.

People switching over after a bad experience with another brand won't think this way.

Every time new hardware is introduced, Apple or anyone else, there are bugs. It is simply impossible to test every single hardware/software/application combination for every possibility. Apple doesn't typically comment, but they do typically resolve these issues in a timely fashion.

There was a similar thread when the last iMacs were released, and the issue was resolved within a week. Just a bit of patience...

 

[mcgruff]

Not the iMac....it's Snow Leopard

I saw this happen on my MacBook Pro after updating to Snow Leopard. The fans cranked up to warp speed and Activity Monitor showed Flash sucking up about 140% of CPU cycles. Killed the Flash process and it all settled down.

 

[macUser2007]

If I have to turn on Flash just to navigate a website you can be sure I'll never buy anything from that company.

Companies always have to make choices, when designing their sites, or other marketing materials. They'll always upset a few weirdos, no matter what they do.

If this is how you make decisions in life, there is a good chance, that you can't hold a job for long, and can't afford their products, anyway....

 

[PC2iMacUser]

Thanks

I read one time, then twice, then 3 times - I try to understand the answers because i'm kind of in the same situation.
But I figure I might not belong here for solutions if it requires scrips?

 

[MattInOz]

You can't see a problem with the video arn embedded in this article.

=

You have no rhythm.

True, but maybe the drummer has none either.

 

[HyperZboy]

Welcome to the World of PowerPC Snow Leopard users!​

Almost all of these problems have persisted on Leopard 10.5.8 for PowerPC Macs for a long long time.

#1: I file Safari crash reports daily, most are Flash related, but not all, some are also Javascript related.

#2: Flash performance on even a Dual Core G5 is ridiculously sluggish compared to even an OLD Pentium 4 PC! I've done the comparison, it's embarrassing.

#3: Disk permissions are always corrupted. Some people claim this doesn't cause problems, but my experience comparing Tiger, Leopard, & now Snow Leopard suggests to me otherwise.

ONLY TIGER WILL RUN FOR MONTHS & MONTHS WITHOUT A CRASH OR KERNEL PANIC OR PERSISTENT SPINNING BEACHBALLS THAT REQUIRE A REBOOT!

#4: The MAIL program is also sluggish and often spins the beachball. When the original carbon/MacOS 9 compatible AOL program & the newer AOL client send mail & attachments faster than Apple's MAIL program, guess what?
HOUSTON, WE HAVE A PROBLEM!

So, please Apple, can I get a side order of 10.5.9 with my 10.6.2 please?

I hate to say it but the flash comments here are true. Flash has been garbage since upgrading to Leopard. Let's be frank - flash was weak under Tiger (thanks adobe)... but Leopard has made it garbage. (thanks apple)

Anybody saying G5 users should upgrade is simply forgetting the specs of a G5 powermac. Way more power is there than is required on the windows side for flawless playpack. I don't know who to thank anymore. Adobe has obviously always wrote **** code for the mac - fire those people, jesus, what does it take??? - but Apple seems to be piling on now too.

Thank you. Finally, a non-fanbois responds to my comments and complaints. Thank you.

As for the notion that my systems are all corrupted or broken down, sorry (several people ridiculed me).
I have multiple Macs running Tiger, Leopard, & now Snow Leopard.
The problems are consistent in Leopard and Snow Leopard.
I don't have any of these problems in Tiger.

Personally, I don't really care who's fault these problems are in Leopard or Snow Leopard, but it's clear neither Apple or Adobe seem to be on the same page these days and both seem to be pretending these problems don't exist.

By the way, I don't have the latest version of FLASH installed on my Tiger partitions, so it's debatable whether this is a Snow Leopard/Leopard operating system issue or just simply FLASH related, but somebody's going to have to say UNCLE in this Apple vs. Adobe battle.

I could just see the MS commercials now (that is if MS was a company that had a brain that could actually come up with a hard-hitting commercial, which it clearly isn't.)

Finally, the notion that a Powermac G5 is horse and buggy tech is just nothing but snobby fanboism at its worst from the same people who were touting the "Megahertz Myth" just 3+ years ago, so I'm just going to ignore all the insults. You've already made appropriate fools of yourselves all on your own. I don't need to help you out by arguing with you further.

 

[scottness]

My 20" iMac runs flash with no probs... My 1st gen MBA almost doesn't run flash.

Someone mentioned AirPort might be a problem? The iMac is connected via ethernet, MPA is wireless. I wonder if anything would change if I plugged the thing in. Gotta get a USB adapter though. Is it worth the $20 to try?

 

[Drag'nGT]

My 20" iMac runs flash with no probs... My 1st gen MBA almost doesn't run flash.

Someone mentioned AirPort might be a problem? The iMac is connected via ethernet, MPA is wireless. I wonder if anything would change if I plugged the thing in. Gotta get a USB adapter though. Is it worth the $20 to try?

Why not flip it and try the iMac on wireless since it has both and see what happens there.