Apple's New 27-Inch iMacs Experiencing Performance Issues?

[Subcide]

Can you please stop believing it's only an Airport issue? Because it's not, or at least it's much more than that.
My Airport has been disabled for months and all the problems started a couple of weeks after installing Snow Leopard.

And it's not ATI related either (I don't have any).

Look mate, there are a ******** of problems with flash on macs, and always have been, but *this particular issue* is related to the Airport, as cycling it off and on in any way fixes the problem, which the video *clearly* shows. If its not fixing it for you, then you clearly have a completely separate issue thats manifesting in the same way, which is likely as the problems for you sound like they started well before this new product line.

I too have been working with the Apple engineer (same one most likely, as have others) to debug this problem on and off for the last 10 hours or so. No solid answers yet though.

 

[logotype]

Flash Player SLOW in Safari (Not Firefox, not Stand Alone Player)

Flash performance in Safari is ridiculously bad.

A bug was filed at Adobes JIRA almost one year ago and it still hasn't been addressed.
The example provided to illustrate how bad it is:
One vector circle, animated at 60fps.

Results on my 3.06GHz MBP: stuttery, choppy animation.

This is really, really BAD.

However, the SAP (Stand Alone Flash Player) is not having any problems and performance is extremely smooth.
So what is the issue here? Is it Adobe that has to fix something, or Apple?
Clearly there is some limitations in how 3rd party plugins can draw in the browser (Safari).
Flash runs much more smoothly in Firefox, which shows that Apple has something that needs to be fixed.

Link to the bug report, and provided samples to illustrate how SLOW Flash is in Safari:
https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-842

If you are a JIRA member, please vote on this bug.

 

[maclancer]

Maybe it is an issue with 64bit in which there is not flash plug-in with 64bit drivers yet. I can be wrong but it could be related it.

 

[greygray]

As if we needed another reason to ditch the crap technology that is Flash!

Windows PC all come bundled with it.

 

[Peace]

Flash performance in Safari is ridiculously bad.

A bug was filed at Adobes JIRA almost one year ago and it still hasn't been addressed.
The example provided to illustrate how bad it is:
One vector circle, animated at 60fps.

Results on my 3.06GHz MBP: stuttery, choppy animation.

This is really, really BAD.

However, the SAP (Stand Alone Flash Player) is not having any problems and performance is extremely smooth.
So what is the issue here? Is it Adobe that has to fix something, or Apple?
Clearly there is some limitations in how 3rd party plugins can draw in the browser (Safari).
Flash runs much more smoothly in Firefox, which shows that Apple has something that needs to be fixed.

Link to the bug report, and provided samples to illustrate how SLOW Flash is in Safari:
https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-842

If you are a JIRA member, please vote on this bug.

If this is related to Safari ( an Apple app ) why is the bug submitted to Adobe ?

 

[CharBroiled20s]

As if we needed another reason to ditch the crap technology that is Flash!

DUDE, SERIOUSLY!!!!

Flash is a total RESOURCE HOG!!!

It doesn't matter what platform you're on.. Flash eats up your resources.

It's time for Adobe to rewrite the codebase, get rid of the ridiculously memory intensive virtual machine and make a product worth publishing.

I'd prefer a JAVA only website above Flash or Silverlight... but if I had to choose between Flash and Sliverlight........... I'd choose Sliverlight. Flash is antiquated bloatware...

I'm willing to give Silverlight a shot... It works better as my netflix player than flash ever did.....

And PPL, IT'S JUST MY 2 CENTS!

 

[troller]

The solution is NOT to play your .flv files in Safari or FireFox, but download everything to disk and play it locally, using VLC player. This eliminates the problem completely.

Your are joking...don'T you? Well I hope so!!!
I have the flash problem on all my macs...watching youtube videos on a mac ist horrible. And sorry Apple, this fact and issue just sucks! It sucks even more because they know about this **** a long time.

 

[Anuba]

Flash is a total RESOURCE HOG!!!

Sad but true. I've made my living on Flash for the last 10 years or so, so it's not like I wish it never existed, but... it's a steaming pile of fecal matter.

The other day when my MBP's battery was draining rapidly until I closed a Safari window with lots of Flash banners on it, I thought to myself... Flash may be a tiny plugin but can you imagine all of the extra terawatts of power it's needlessly drawing all over the world right now? You invoke Flash and *bam*, power consumption goes through the roof, the fans rev up, the CPU usage skyrockets... just to perform some simple 2D vector animations and transitions in some puny banner or whatever.

One global Flash-free week per year would work wonders for carbon emission reduction. One billion computers saving 20W each = lots of juice.

 

[Peace]

It's Carbon in a Cocoa world.

 

[Papajohn56]

What a shock. Flash performance on the Mac has ALWAYS been awful. Adobe needs to get on the ball. I mean, spinning up my MBP's fans to 6000rpm just to watch youtube?

 

[LanPhantom]

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Flash sucks ass. I mean really, give me one reason why need it over HTML 5.

 

[Ironduke]

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Flash sucks ass. I mean really, give me one reason why need it over HTML 5.

Never was there a truer word spoken.

 

[rashdown_online]

Damage, Too...

My auntie just received her nice new 27 incher, and there's a HUGE great edge-to-edge propagating crack in the glass but not evidence of being issues on the boxing/packaging!? Dodgy manufacturing and assembly. Very poor quality control for a PREMIUM product. Maybe they're spending too much effort to reduce their assembly cost base which is starting to impact Quality Management SLA's/KPI's? Or was she the small percentile of acceptable "failure" on that particular day?

Having said that, the Apple guy at the end of the phone was great, and within a few moments, a new one was ordered with TNT lined up to collect the damaged one. Big tick in the Customer Service box!

So it seems Apple know they are going to impact people with QRM issues, so they beef-up the process to mitigate. And do it well.

 

[mikesjo]

Is the flash problem on macs just on the more recent ones with 64 bit processors? I'm running a 2007 C2D 2.2Ghz MBP w/ 4GB of ram and my Safari 4.0.3 runs at 16% cpu usage with that same youtube vid on HD. FF uses a lot more at 70%. I'm also on snow leopard.

 

[NSMonkey]

Funny how you make it sound like Apple's removal of existing APIs makes Adobe the bad guy.

And, just why is it that after promising Carbon x64, and even shipping it in a developer release, that Apple decided to pull that feature?

I assume it's because Carbon has always been a transitional, legacy API and Apple decided it was finally time to shut it down. Dropping the 64-bit version was the first big step and a good way to motivate the holdouts. In the long term, it frees up resources and allows Apple to focus on a single primary API for OS X and iPhone.

According to Adobe, CS5 will be a 64-bit native Cocoa app. If Adobe delivers in a decent time frame, any disruption due to a lack of 64-bit Carbon will be minimal, if even noticeable.

In fact, you're one of the very few guys still talking about it.

My Window 7 x64 system has executables from July 1996 that run just fine. In fact, most of the "won't run in Win7 x64" programs that I've run into are because they're 16-bit programs from 1992 or earlier.

You're trying to run 16-bit programs from 1992 or earlier? Well, more power to you but I don't think many Mac users are dealing with software of quite that same vintage (or have any desire to).

Microsoft understands the importance of ensuring that userland programs run on a new OS. Apple doesn't, and somehow has convinced the sheeple to blame the 3rd party for Apple's mistakes.

So Apple doesn't understand that it's important to have running software on its OS? Well that's a new one. But sure, it makes sense. The QC engineers are obviously way too busy with their vast propaganda schemes to actually test software.

And "sheeple"? Really? What are you running, Windows 7 Maverick Edition? Windows for Rebels? No, it's the default operating system for OEM PCs. So I'm sure you'll forgive me if I'm less than awestruck by your nonconformist credentials.

 

[bartzilla]

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Flash sucks ass. I mean really, give me one reason why need it over HTML 5.

Because we're living in the world of right now, not the world of what might or might not be accepted technology in 18 months. Maybe.

 

[ppnkg]

Flash is crap, but since you tube and other places are so popular and adobe will not do anything to fix it, Apple needs to do something about it.

 

[-=XX=-Nephilim]

LOL

Amount of utterly blinded fanboys around here is reaching new levels!

Did you guys read Apple forums discussions at all before posting replies!?

If you did - you would clearly see that issue isn't with Flash but with either graphics drivers, OS, new Apple hardware or combination of all...

Hopefully 10.6.2 will fix all this.

 

[mabaker]

LOL

Amount of utterly blinded fanboys around here is reaching new levels!

Did you guys read Apple forums discussions at all before posting replies!?

If you did - you would clearly see that issue isn't with Flash but with either graphics drivers, OS, new Apple hardware or combination of all...

Hopefully 10.6.2 will fix all this.

This doesn't excuse the horrible flash performance on PPC and Intel Macs to begin with.

Apple may be at fault here but it doesn't certainly excuse Adobe for just taking the absolutely bloated Macromedia flash code and slapping its name on it and making it mac-compatible solely out of mercy for its relatively small Mac user base.

 

[Bemopti123]

Every time new hardware is introduced, Apple or anyone else, there are bugs. It is simply impossible to test every single hardware/software/application combination for every possibility. Apple doesn't typically comment, but they do typically resolve these issues in a timely fashion.

Not to flame here as an owner of 3 Macs. But, that excuse of an impossibility to test "every single hardware./software combination for compatibility issues is something that Microsoft would use to justify their lack of oversight. If this is a genuine issue, as for what I have read seem to be, then be damned Apple for releasing in incredible product with such obvious software flaws.

Youtube playback has been quite troublesome even with my 4 GB MacBook Pro Unibody with its discreet 9400GT card with 256 MB Ram.

 

[kate-willbury]

Every time new hardware is introduced, Apple or anyone else, there are bugs. It is simply impossible to test every single hardware/software/application combination for every possibility.

is this a joke???? apple have FULL control over what software/hardware goes into every mac at launch. how the hell can they not test this?

 

[kate-willbury]

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Flash sucks ass. I mean really, give me one reason why need it over HTML 5.

um because html 5 isn't even going to be adopted for a long ass time (probably over a decade)

 

[-=XX=-Nephilim]

This doesn't excuse the horrible flash performance on PPC and Intel Macs to begin with.

What on earth are you talking about!?

I am running Leopard on late 2007 MBP and Flash performs PERFECTLY!

Issue with new iMacs, if you have read users experiences, CLEARLY points finger at APPLE and no one else...

In fact, for the whole matter to be even more embarrassing for the Apple, some people installed Windows 7 via boot-camp on their new iMacs and have experienced NO problems with computer performance AT ALL!

So this problem is SURELY to do with graphics drivers or SL or airport or some combination of all...

Jezuz...

 

[adztaylor]

Google should get involved.

 

[Krafty]

Google should get involved.

And make Googlash.