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It continually updates the face map so it always recognizes you.

Imagine someone seeing a picture of you with and without a beard. Big difference. But if you take a picture each day or even many times a day as that beard grows, the change is far less drastic and the difference isn't much.

There are a LOT of people crying about this feature without ever using it. People cried about Touch ID too because they had the chance to use it. I recommend trying it before you whine about it.

It also makes the algorithm less specific. The way neural networks work is that as the definition expands it does not get more specific it gets less specific. So, it recognizes you in a hat and with a beard but also means the security of the device degrades. The fingerprint does not change so its definition remains precise. If it worked the way you claim shaving a beard would then mess it up, but the algorithm just remembers beard and no beard and all in-between meet the definition. For examples look at some of the misses the auto object identification gets in Photos to see how the algorithms must choose between sensitivity and specificity. That tradeoff is much different with touchID because fingerprint is constant.
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So one in 50k people are jonesin my finger print? That ain't cool yo!
Its not an old wives tale. They are probab
So one in 50k people are jonesin my finger print? That ain't cool yo!
Fingerprints are roughly 1 in 24 million based on research. Pretty dang good. The devices we use for convenience on our phones are not sensitive enough to clarify those differences so its something less than 1 in 24 million, but not even close to 1 in 50K.
 
So i wonder how its going to work in sunlight? I mean the sun will flood your face with infrared light and negating the dots. This is how the xbox Kinect works. And it doesn’t in the direct sunlight. So im betting this wont either
 
I am curious how/if FaceID works with a motorcycle helmet, where most of your face is covered...
 
I'm sure face ID will be fine 9 times out of 10..even touch ID doesn't work all the time

And I think this is what some are not considering, is that technology needs to evolve and immature. Touch ID when it first started was slower and had it's discrepancies. But look how fast touch ID is and reliable. The same will apply to Face ID. At first, it may seem slower than touch ID and perhaps maybe not entirely perfect when using it. But that technology will continue to evolve and mature as Apple continues to prove it.
 
for those who have concerns about it here's a picture taken with an infrared camera of a woman wearing sunglasses...

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Can it be used on unconscious people?
No
Can it be used with sunglasses?
Yes
What about unconscious people with sunglasses?
Ahhhh.... We will get back to you.
 
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So what if you shave off your beard, or it it going to keep many many versions of you ?

Yup. Imagine looking through a photo album of someone throughout their life. You'd be much better able to identify them no matter what they wore if you had multiple looks to go from than if you had just one.
 
Face ID 2.0 will probably allow multiple people to unlock a device. They'll probably bring Face ID to the iPad next year and that will be where we will see Face ID 2.0. After all, it's probably more likely that multiple people will share an iPad as opposed to an iPhone.
 
I'll believe it when I see it. An incorrect scan once a week is enough of a convenience for me to never purchase.
Erm fingerprint scanner fails about once every few days for me (greasy fingers, greasy home button etc). And i remember it was MUCH worse when it first came out. But people still adapted to it and got used to it.
 
Many users have been using it... for while... on Lumia 950 and 950XL. The concept is identical. Apple dressed it up a little, but Microsoft has been doing this for a long time. Some of the concerns brought up by others are legit.

One big program with having to use your face to authenticate a device is that you have to break eye contact or otherwise disrupt a social interaction in order to use it.

The Lumia 950 and 950XL do not do it in the same way. They used very very primitive setups to do so. They did not map the face in the same way that Apple does and were nowhere near as secure or well executed.
 
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Really? TouchID was a VERY popular feature. I understand the desire to blindly defend all things Apple, but I bet if they managed to make TouchID work with screen that people would be complaining about it.
And thats what people said about passcodes before touchID came out...

People gotta stop standing in the way of progress, embrace it!
 
Not a fan of this.
My wife and I each have a fingerprint registered with each other's phone (nothing crazy, just makes it easy for us to grab whichever phone is closest to Google something or whatever) and its annoying to think that one of us would have to type in a complex access code to get in to an iPhone X... Is it stilly of me to think that due to this one specific issue I'm thinking of an iPhone 8 over an iPhone X? And since the 8 isn't much change over my work-issued iPhone 7, I won't upgrade my personal 5S at all?
This logic confuses me. The new phone that I don’t have is way better than my current phone, but the newer phone coming out is barely better than the new phone that already blows my current phone away, so I’m going to keep my vastly inferior phone. Huh?
 
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I suppose those of us who regularly ride motorcycles are out of luck on this unless we go to a flip-face helmet.
 
"Face ID Growing Pains" This means Apple is charging you premium to test their new product. I used to remember when iOS beta it cost $99 for developers to test and report bugs to Apple. This is like Google charges premium on their test products hype it up, people go crazy it's the next big thing then kill the project. The only difference is that Apple is not gonna discontinue the iPhone X concept but rather continue the development until polished or by next year in-display TouchID is ready.
I suppose I could wait another year or two, but it's been almost three years since my last upgrade. I don't want to wait any more. And whatever they offer in a couple of years will have still more unproven features.

Frankly I enjoy using the new features, anyway. I don't feel used.
 
Apart from the fact that the thing isn't staring at you all the time (would eat up the battery in two minutes), what exactly are your privacy concerns? If I bought an iPhone X, everyone would expect to see gazillions of photos of me staring at my phone.

Spying, data trading, but I guess the most down to earth would be when I'm using the phone for "grown up things". :D
 
I immediately wondered about sunglasses which will impact almost everyone at some point. It would be kind of annoying to need to take your glasses off every time you need in your phone outside. Then again, there is always the passcode as a backup I suppose, but just a minor annoyance that isn't there with Touch ID.

Touch ID isn't perfect, but touch ID today is much better than it was when initially released. I am assuming it will be the same with facial recognition. It will be much better 2-3 years from now and likely spotty for now.


Well Touch ID won't work if you have gloves so..
 
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Really? TouchID was a VERY popular feature. I understand the desire to blindly defend all things Apple, but I bet if they managed to make TouchID work with screen that people would be complaining about it.

Go look up some early threads when Touch Id was announced. Significant complaints and annoyances without anyone even using it.

This has nothing to do with blindly defending all things Apple (I'm happy to criticize them). This is thinking logically about what Apple is trying to do - showing the future of the iPhone. And along with removing bezels and a home button they've moved to what they're working toward being a more secure form of biometric security.
 
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