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Apple's New iPhone XR Has Been the Most Popular and Best Selling iPhone Since October Launch
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Now that Apple won't share iPhone unit sales numbers there's no way that his statement will ever be verifiable.
So Apple peeps can say this about every/any phone they launch now.
So Apple peeps can say this about every/any phone they launch now.
It's going to take a while (a year or more) for people to get focused on revenue versus unit sales. I think you are right. Apple had to say something to stop the stock from tumbling. From a pure numbers standpoint, Apple is a very strong company and strong investment. Apple is an "ecosystem" brand. The obsession with iPhone numbers misses that essential point. We all know that the smartphone market is saturated in certain parts of the world. We also know that people are keeping smartphones longer. At some point iPhone sales were bound to be flat. They might very well dip (unless emerging markets offset the decline in saturated markets) and stabilize over the next year or two as the public's new upgrade cycle (less frequent) becomes the norm. People are still going to upgrade, so unless Apple starts actively losing customers to Android, iPhone numbers should find a new normal in the coming years.
Apple customers buy a lot of Apple tech, so revenue should be the focus. Are the people who chose not to upgrade their iPhones this year buying AirPods and/or subscribing to Apple Music instead? Apple's Services and Other categories continue to see impressive growth, quarter over quarter, so Apple needs to get investors focused on the big picture. It's going to be a painful period of adjustment, however (as investors have already discovered).
Fair enough. They never released by specific model officially. However, no longer releasing total unit volume sales inhibits other parties from breaking down percentages of models sold.
No surprise that this was announced at the conference call. iPhones are overpriced, and tanking in sales. Tim will be out in 24m.
OLED is horrible, has always been horrible and always will be.
It's one of the main reasons I switched from Android. The immaculate screen of the plus series phones remains unmatched.
I can't believe people are so dumb they fall for the OLED hype.
I have an iPhone SE I've bought a year ago to test a couple of apps (I work a lot with start-ups), and honestly, it's not THAT different compared to newer phones. Sure the screen is not so nice and the camera is not so good, but everything else is exactly the same. Apps work great, the headphone jack is very useful, it's got thick borders and I'm never afraid to drop it. It does 90% of all the things I want a phone to do. So it's no surprise people are buying the XR - the more expensive phones are better, but they are not that much better to waist so much money on them/
id rather have a refurb X if i could get the 200 trade in on my 6s for an x refurb, id take the trade
I think the biggest adjustment will be landscape mode with the XS Max and it’s also been rumored to have a ‘triple lens camera’ with the XS in addition.
Wrong way to interpret this, IMO.
He was careful with his word.
1) Xr has been best selling iPhone SINCE release (Late October), not necessarily in total units sold.
2) The iPhone XS has a 6 week head start, so naturally it would sell fewer units than the brand new Xr when launched.
3) All signs pointed to the Xr to be a “for the masses” phone, priced as such.
lol this statement means nothing. Of course it's the most popular phone since it launched. XS and XS Max launched a month prior and got their peak sales out of the way. XR is new.
None of this means XR isn't selling below expectations either. It doesn't mean iPhone sales are doing better than they were.
And no this doesn't mean I believe iPhone sales are in the toilet either. To me from what I've seen is iPhone sales are peaking as in not growing in terms of units sold. This doesn't mean customers are leaving Apple. It just means they are holding onto their phones for a longer period of time.
None of this means XR isn't selling below expectations either. It doesn't mean iPhone sales are doing better than they were.
And no this doesn't mean I believe iPhone sales are in the toilet either. To me from what I've seen is iPhone sales are peaking as in not growing in terms of units sold. This doesn't mean customers are leaving Apple. It just means they are holding onto their phones for a longer period of time.
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Apple isn’t up because of this statement. Notice the overall market shot up after the Fed talked?Apple's VP said. Figures.
How is this an indication of anything except that iPhone XS and XS Max are not selling well?
No real numbers, and comparative figures from before.
He gives a relative sales figure, and the share holders are supposed to be elated that Apple has done something great with this year's iPhones!
It worked; since this statement from around noon today, AAPL has gone up $6, a near 4% jump for the day!
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It means nothing other than killed the speculation around here that the iPhone 8 was outselling the Xr.
It also means Apple didn’t make a giant mistake.
You need to analyze better. It could very well be the worst iPhone ever, and I'm speaking to the entire generation. We don't have any numbers and all indications point to the Xs and Xs Max falling well short of expectations, which makes it quite easy for something like the Xr to be the best selling. That's not the same thing as saying it's selling well.
I can't seem to stop referring to this model as the iPhone "XR" rather than calling it the iPhone "10R". When you put a roman numeral right next to a regular character then it makes it confusing.
As a photographer, I'd MUCH rather have an LCD panel on my X. Don't like the OLED display at all.
It’s not just that, though that’s part of it. It’s also that the Xs / max launched first, so that big surge of people who buy the latest and greatest were already taken out of the sample by the time the Xr launched.
This would be more meaningful if all the phones had launched at the same time.
It sounds like the sales are really bad if Apple has to resort to such creative PR. Instead of releasing actual sales numbers they come up with deceptive construct like "Apple's iPhone XR, released in late October, has been outselling the iPhone XS and XS Max every day since it first launched". What does it actually mean? By the time of XR release the bulk of XS selling was done. The only thing we learned from this puzzling statement is that XS and XS+ (individually) on their second month of sales sold less than XR on its first month of sales. Given the pre-order and first month model sales spike this does not amount to much. If XR sold less on its first month of sales than XS on its respective second month that would probably mean XR is selling at least twice as bad. Apparently it's not that bad.
It doesn't mean Apple didn't make a big mistake. It does mean the iPhone 8 isn't outselling it.
Eventually the entire back of the phone will be littered with lenses like chicken pox.
Apple announce guidance for a record holiday quarter after iPhone Xr had been selling. They knew exactly what was coming. Don't believe the FUD.
I don’t find OLED horrible, so am I dumb? I Have an OLED TV and an iPhone X and love the picture quality. I am not sensitive to PWM. It’s not hype and people are not dumb to like OLEDs, it is regarded by the majority of cinephiles as the premium TV display tech. On a phone? It’s less impressive, perhaps, but still really good. You just don’t like it, it’s ok.